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RE: Is there really any team capable of beating FSU this year?
(11-04-2013 08:31 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  I'm having trouble deciding if your comment is 50% sarcasm and 50% sincerity, or 100% sincerity of which 50% I totally disagree with.

Mainly, why would I include Tennessee as a decent opponent? They aren't good.

And Virginia? Quite possibly the worst team in the ACC this year. Literally.

Being a rival doesn't make Oregon State or Washington better than they actually are/aren't. They both have 3 losses. One has a loss to an FCS team. They're big games to the fans of those schools but they aren't inherently big for national title purposes.

I think FSU would be willing to play Oregon but a neutral site matchup is probably more realistic than a 2-game series

Dude, Oregon State is no worse than Georgia or Florida. Having three losses does not make you a bad team because I certainly would take a three loss South Carolina over a one loss team like Ball State.
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(11-05-2013 01:47 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  There isn't anything you can really say to take away from Oregon this year, and that why they are in the hunt.

FSU just has a lot going for it as well, mostly a kid who could easily be the best QB in the country.

It's going to be a hell of a finish this season.

Exactly we have a lot of good teams and being honest it's not fair to say Ohio State could not compete with them. This is why we need the playoff but this year if Oregon wins out they deserve the NC more.
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(11-05-2013 01:54 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  
(11-04-2013 08:31 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  I'm having trouble deciding if your comment is 50% sarcasm and 50% sincerity, or 100% sincerity of which 50% I totally disagree with.

Mainly, why would I include Tennessee as a decent opponent? They aren't good.

And Virginia? Quite possibly the worst team in the ACC this year. Literally.

Being a rival doesn't make Oregon State or Washington better than they actually are/aren't. They both have 3 losses. One has a loss to an FCS team. They're big games to the fans of those schools but they aren't inherently big for national title purposes.

I think FSU would be willing to play Oregon but a neutral site matchup is probably more realistic than a 2-game series

Dude, Oregon State is no worse than Georgia or Florida.

That's some endorsement. Oregon State is about the same as two teams decimated with injuries. Cool.
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FSU is fully capable of beating themselves. Every team is, on a given day.
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(11-05-2013 01:31 PM)DawgNBama Wrote:  Hmm, I thought FSU's motto was "anyone, anywhere, any place, any time." I thought FSU wanted to be different from the SEC, not just like it. Hmm.
As for the rest of my post, Tennessee was actually pretty good when Oregon scheduled them originally. And the Vols even gave UGa a very good run for their money. Are you saying that FSU would have decimated Tennessee and UGa? I definitely beg to differ. And while it's just my IMO, FSU would lose by at least 15 to 'Bama.

I don't care what your opinion is about FSU vs Bama, UGA or Tennessee.

Do I think FSU would crush Tennessee in Tallahassee? Uhhh...yea. UGA was without basically all of their offensive skill players against Tennessee and the game was in Knoxville unlike your game with them.

FSU already has a yearly, marquee OOC matchup with Florida. We have an OOC game with ND that's going to occur every 3 years due to their ACC agreement. We already have games setup with Oklahoma State, Boise State and have finished recent OOC games against BYU (home/away), Colorado (home/away), Notre Dame (home/away) and Alabama (neutral).

FSU's not afraid of Oregon. If we were I would've said we'd only play you in Tallahassee. Quit being a girl. It would be easier to agree on a date if it was a one-time meeting at a neutral site, otherwise it may have to be several years before a return visit. But I suspect you will assume that means FSU is scared somehow.

At least you didn't try to tell me for a second time that UVA was a quality opponent.
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RE: Is there really any team capable of beating FSU this year?
(11-05-2013 08:32 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  
(11-05-2013 01:31 PM)DawgNBama Wrote:  Hmm, I thought FSU's motto was "anyone, anywhere, any place, any time." I thought FSU wanted to be different from the SEC, not just like it. Hmm.
As for the rest of my post, Tennessee was actually pretty good when Oregon scheduled them originally. And the Vols even gave UGa a very good run for their money. Are you saying that FSU would have decimated Tennessee and UGa? I definitely beg to differ. And while it's just my IMO, FSU would lose by at least 15 to 'Bama.

I don't care what your opinion is about FSU vs Bama, UGA or Tennessee.

Do I think FSU would crush Tennessee in Tallahassee? Uhhh...yea. UGA was without basically all of their offensive skill players against Tennessee and the game was in Knoxville unlike your game with them.

FSU already has a yearly, marquee OOC matchup with Florida. We have an OOC game with ND that's going to occur every 3 years due to their ACC agreement. We already have games setup with Oklahoma State, Boise State and have finished recent OOC games against BYU (home/away), Colorado (home/away), Notre Dame (home/away) and Alabama (neutral).

FSU's not afraid of Oregon. If we were I would've said we'd only play you in Tallahassee. Quit being a girl. It would be easier to agree on a date if it was a one-time meeting at a neutral site, otherwise it may have to be several years before a return visit. But I suspect you will assume that means FSU is scared somehow.

At least you didn't try to tell me for a second time that UVA was a quality opponent.

Thank you for confirming my suspicions that FSU now takes the exact same scheduling route as its archrival UF. Jimbo Fisher is no Bobby Bowden, who built FSU into a powerhouse. I respect Bobby Bowden and Dave Hart; Jimbo Fisher and the current FSU AD I do not respect.
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(11-04-2013 04:28 PM)curtis0620 Wrote:  
(11-04-2013 04:25 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(11-04-2013 01:07 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  Never thought I'd be asking this question this year, but is there really any team capable of beating FSU this year? I would say their strongest shot was Oregon. The SEC's top teams are all on rebuilding years for their defense, and it seems like FSU has the strongest team to win the BCS title game.

Not sure why you are so impressed with FSU? They haven't played anyone with top-tier talent. They don't run the ball and their passing game counts on plenty of time for the QB and throwing to wide open receivers beating over-matched DBs. Defensively, they aren't strong up the middle.

I'd favor Alabama and LSU over them for sure.

Let me know who Alabama and LSU has beaten with top tier talent. I'll give you A&M. Clemson has beaten Georgia and will be playing SC.

LSU beat Auburn.
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So we can count Oregon out...
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It's Alabama vs FSU, unless one loses.

The only likely loser is Alabama. Then who makes it?
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(11-04-2013 01:07 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  Never thought I'd be asking this question this year, but is there really any team capable of beating FSU this year? I would say their strongest shot was Oregon. The SEC's top teams are all on rebuilding years for their defense, and it seems like FSU has the strongest team to win the BCS title game.

Noone is outstanding this year. Good chance we have two 1 loss teams in the title game. Everyone has plenty of chances to lose.
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(11-06-2013 06:09 PM)DawgNBama Wrote:  
(11-05-2013 08:32 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  
(11-05-2013 01:31 PM)DawgNBama Wrote:  Hmm, I thought FSU's motto was "anyone, anywhere, any place, any time." I thought FSU wanted to be different from the SEC, not just like it. Hmm.
As for the rest of my post, Tennessee was actually pretty good when Oregon scheduled them originally. And the Vols even gave UGa a very good run for their money. Are you saying that FSU would have decimated Tennessee and UGa? I definitely beg to differ. And while it's just my IMO, FSU would lose by at least 15 to 'Bama.

I don't care what your opinion is about FSU vs Bama, UGA or Tennessee.

Do I think FSU would crush Tennessee in Tallahassee? Uhhh...yea. UGA was without basically all of their offensive skill players against Tennessee and the game was in Knoxville unlike your game with them.

FSU already has a yearly, marquee OOC matchup with Florida. We have an OOC game with ND that's going to occur every 3 years due to their ACC agreement. We already have games setup with Oklahoma State, Boise State and have finished recent OOC games against BYU (home/away), Colorado (home/away), Notre Dame (home/away) and Alabama (neutral).

FSU's not afraid of Oregon. If we were I would've said we'd only play you in Tallahassee. Quit being a girl. It would be easier to agree on a date if it was a one-time meeting at a neutral site, otherwise it may have to be several years before a return visit. But I suspect you will assume that means FSU is scared somehow.

At least you didn't try to tell me for a second time that UVA was a quality opponent.

Thank you for confirming my suspicions that FSU now takes the exact same scheduling route as its archrival UF. Jimbo Fisher is no Bobby Bowden, who built FSU into a powerhouse. I respect Bobby Bowden and Dave Hart; Jimbo Fisher and the current FSU AD I do not respect.
Jimbo has brought FSU back to the top. He is an awesome coach. They are going to be on the top for a long time.
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NIU and Fresno State
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(11-06-2013 06:09 PM)DawgNBama Wrote:  
(11-05-2013 08:32 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  
(11-05-2013 01:31 PM)DawgNBama Wrote:  Hmm, I thought FSU's motto was "anyone, anywhere, any place, any time." I thought FSU wanted to be different from the SEC, not just like it. Hmm.
As for the rest of my post, Tennessee was actually pretty good when Oregon scheduled them originally. And the Vols even gave UGa a very good run for their money. Are you saying that FSU would have decimated Tennessee and UGa? I definitely beg to differ. And while it's just my IMO, FSU would lose by at least 15 to 'Bama.

I don't care what your opinion is about FSU vs Bama, UGA or Tennessee.

Do I think FSU would crush Tennessee in Tallahassee? Uhhh...yea. UGA was without basically all of their offensive skill players against Tennessee and the game was in Knoxville unlike your game with them.

FSU already has a yearly, marquee OOC matchup with Florida. We have an OOC game with ND that's going to occur every 3 years due to their ACC agreement. We already have games setup with Oklahoma State, Boise State and have finished recent OOC games against BYU (home/away), Colorado (home/away), Notre Dame (home/away) and Alabama (neutral).

FSU's not afraid of Oregon. If we were I would've said we'd only play you in Tallahassee. Quit being a girl. It would be easier to agree on a date if it was a one-time meeting at a neutral site, otherwise it may have to be several years before a return visit. But I suspect you will assume that means FSU is scared somehow.

At least you didn't try to tell me for a second time that UVA was a quality opponent.

Thank you for confirming my suspicions that FSU now takes the exact same scheduling route as its archrival UF. Jimbo Fisher is no Bobby Bowden, who built FSU into a powerhouse. I respect Bobby Bowden and Dave Hart; Jimbo Fisher and the current FSU AD I do not respect.

The current AD's been on the job for about a month or two. Don't be a clown and talk about things which you clearly know not a damn thing about.

I'm still failing to see how playing an OOC schedule of UF+ND/OK State/Boise/(in the past BYU, Bama, ND, USC, A&M)/etc EVERY year is taking a coward's approach to scheduling. But hey, whatever you say. Not to mention FSU plays Clemson and Miami every year, who over the course of the history of the universe have proven to be better than any pair of Pac 12 North opponents Oregon will face on a yearly basis.

Sorry, brah, but you have to schedule anybody, anywhere, anytime when you're a relative upstart independent. But nobody does that while being in a conference. NOBODY.
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(11-08-2013 12:14 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(11-04-2013 01:07 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  Never thought I'd be asking this question this year, but is there really any team capable of beating FSU this year? I would say their strongest shot was Oregon. The SEC's top teams are all on rebuilding years for their defense, and it seems like FSU has the strongest team to win the BCS title game.

Noone is outstanding this year. Good chance we have two 1 loss teams in the title game. Everyone has plenty of chances to lose.

Depends what you consider "good". I'd think there's a better chance of having 1 undefeated than none.
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^ I doubt it.
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Hasn't there been one more often than not?
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(11-08-2013 12:22 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  
(11-06-2013 06:09 PM)DawgNBama Wrote:  
(11-05-2013 08:32 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  
(11-05-2013 01:31 PM)DawgNBama Wrote:  Hmm, I thought FSU's motto was "anyone, anywhere, any place, any time." I thought FSU wanted to be different from the SEC, not just like it. Hmm.
As for the rest of my post, Tennessee was actually pretty good when Oregon scheduled them originally. And the Vols even gave UGa a very good run for their money. Are you saying that FSU would have decimated Tennessee and UGa? I definitely beg to differ. And while it's just my IMO, FSU would lose by at least 15 to 'Bama.

I don't care what your opinion is about FSU vs Bama, UGA or Tennessee.

Do I think FSU would crush Tennessee in Tallahassee? Uhhh...yea. UGA was without basically all of their offensive skill players against Tennessee and the game was in Knoxville unlike your game with them.

FSU already has a yearly, marquee OOC matchup with Florida. We have an OOC game with ND that's going to occur every 3 years due to their ACC agreement. We already have games setup with Oklahoma State, Boise State and have finished recent OOC games against BYU (home/away), Colorado (home/away), Notre Dame (home/away) and Alabama (neutral).

FSU's not afraid of Oregon. If we were I would've said we'd only play you in Tallahassee. Quit being a girl. It would be easier to agree on a date if it was a one-time meeting at a neutral site, otherwise it may have to be several years before a return visit. But I suspect you will assume that means FSU is scared somehow.

At least you didn't try to tell me for a second time that UVA was a quality opponent.

Thank you for confirming my suspicions that FSU now takes the exact same scheduling route as its archrival UF. Jimbo Fisher is no Bobby Bowden, who built FSU into a powerhouse. I respect Bobby Bowden and Dave Hart; Jimbo Fisher and the current FSU AD I do not respect.
Jimbo has brought FSU back to the top. He is an awesome coach. They are going to be on the top for a long time.

Jimbo is good, but he's got a long way to go before he can step into Bobby Bowden's shoes. Then again, very few coaches can do that at this point in time. Still, if Jimbo is running away from teams with good records, I do not respect him. Bobby Bowden took on everyone; that's why I respect him. I'm not even going to bother to reply to Marge Schott's post because all he/she is proving is that I'm right and he/she is wrong. Next!!
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Can't wait for an Alabama vs Florida State match up. The problem will be on the Alabama side. Will they make it?
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Somebody's a clown.
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