(11-03-2013 10:39 AM)MU ATO Wrote:  Marshall will host whomever survives the west.

Why? Out of conference you edged Mini-Miami and beat up on the Webb's gardener.

Your OOC competition comes into play in the event of a tie. How many FBS wins do those two have?

(11-03-2013 10:42 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(11-03-2013 10:39 AM)MU ATO Wrote:  Marshall will host whomever survives the west.

Provided MU does not lose again...That is entirely possible. ECU will have to play one of its best games of the season to win in Huntington. I am think about making the trip.

I hope it plays out like that. It would be an excellent way to end the regular season games in the east. Great for ECU, Marshall & CUSA

(11-03-2013 01:34 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(11-03-2013 11:56 AM)StillJonesing Wrote:  We are 11-2 in CUSA the last 2 years with Carden starting. It's not a fluke and until someone not named UCF or Tulane beat us particularly the CUSA 3.0 teams that all wish us to lose each week there is not much else to discuss. We were the favorites and we've still been that the whole time, have the highest rankings etc.

I'm torn. I wanted ECU, Tulsa, and Tulane to lose all season, because I wanted y'all to go to the AAC on a down note. Nothing personal. I'm sure you understand. But, with UNT looking at a possible chance at the conference title game, I'd want UNT to play the best team from the East. Whichever team wins the ECU @ Marshall game would be great. If it is Marshall, then the conference championship will stay with C-USA 3.0. If it is ECU, then UNT would have an opportunity to earn some respect from a few of the ECU fans that still don't believe the Mean Green are for real. Either matchup would be a great game for North Texas, if we can take care of our business and get to the title game.

For me at least, NT , or any other school, would have to have several good seasons in a row to earn any real respect. Isn't your team primarily a Senior one this year?

Marshall can host the CUSA Championship, but only under the following conditions:

Marshall must win it's next three games, including a win against ECU.

AND

Tulane, Rice, and North Texas would each have to lose another game.

(11-03-2013 11:13 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Everyone might stop and remember...ECU is only 8 points from being undefeated today. Someone is going to have beat them to keep them out of Memphis.

Marshall is only 13 points away from being undefeated in 3 games. So both ECU & Marshall have lost their games by about a 4 point avg.

(11-03-2013 11:56 AM)StillJonesing Wrote:  We are 11-2 in CUSA the last 2 years with Carden starting. It's not a fluke and until someone not named UCF or Tulane beat us particularly the CUSA 3.0 teams that all wish us to lose each week there is not much else to discuss. We were the favorites and we've still been that the whole time, have the highest rankings etc.

But you're NOT the favorite. ECU will be an underdog in Huntington. That, by definition, means you're not a favorite.

(11-03-2013 10:24 AM)Indiana Bones Wrote:  Things are getting jumbled in this conference (particularly out west) & I'm tired of trying to look at tie breakers & likely scenarios. Someone please tell me who will host the C-USA championship game and why?

We are.

(11-03-2013 03:37 PM)MU ATO Wrote:  

(11-03-2013 11:13 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Everyone might stop and remember...ECU is only 8 points from being undefeated today. Someone is going to have beat them to keep them out of Memphis.

Marshall is only 13 points away from being undefeated in 3 games. So both ECU & Marshall have lost their games by about a 4 point avg.

That's pretty cool. Tell that to your travel agent and maybe he can get you a discount on your flight to the conference championship game.

(11-03-2013 12:05 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  [quote='Side Show Joe' pid='9948115' dateline='1383493042']
[quote='Indiana Bones' pid='9948043' dateline='1383492242']

Marshall lost to UAB last year and don't be surprised if UAB gives them a really tough game again this year. My prediction is UAB by a field goal, because UAB is one of the best offenses that Marshall will have faced all year.

UAB is currently a 3+ touchdown underdog vs. Marshall. Seeing that you think the Blazers will not only cover, but win outright, this presents an opportunity for you to make a lot of money.

Of course, this is just your typical ECU fan delusion, hoping that Marshall loses another game because it's a near-certainty that ECU will lose in Huntington.

(11-03-2013 02:17 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(11-03-2013 01:41 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(11-03-2013 01:08 PM)ultraviolet Wrote:  

(11-03-2013 12:05 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(11-03-2013 10:37 AM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  Marshall @ North Texas

These teams seem to have the easiest schedule to finish the season. I think UNT will have the better BCS ranking.

See this is where being new to a conference makes some predictions look silly, because you may not know much about some of the conference teams. Marshall has four games remaining:

UAB at Marshall;
@Tulsa;
@FIU; and
ECU at Marshall

Marshall lost to UAB last year and don't be surprised if UAB gives them a really tough game again this year. My prediction is UAB by a field goal, because UAB is one of the best offenses that Marshall will have faced all year.

@Tulsa is going to be real tough for Marshall to win, because Marshall is a terrible road team;

@FIU; Marshall is going to struggle, but I think that they will pull this one out.

Marshall v. ECU; I am going with the Pirates by a touchdown.


Up until last night I thought that the championship game would be Tulane v. ECU; but now I think that Tulane is going to lose a couple of more games, so it is looking like the Championship game will be UNT v. ECU.

I don't think any east team would want to play at UNT. I could see the east team winning at Tulane or Rice, but not there.

lol!!! You've been watching our home games, haven't you?

UNT has fine team...I don't though believe they will fair well in Greenville either.

Still lots of ball to play before all this is decided.

You are absolutely right. I'd rather North Texas not have to go to ECU. Y'all have a great crowd every week and it would be very difficult for us to win there.

(11-03-2013 03:45 PM)Adler Wrote:  

(11-03-2013 03:37 PM)MU ATO Wrote:  

(11-03-2013 11:13 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Everyone might stop and remember...ECU is only 8 points from being undefeated today. Someone is going to have beat them to keep them out of Memphis.

Marshall is only 13 points away from being undefeated in 3 games. So both ECU & Marshall have lost their games by about a 4 point avg.

That's pretty cool. Tell that to your travel agent and maybe he can get you a discount on your flight to the conference championship game.

Someone wants a cookie.

(11-03-2013 02:43 PM)Adler Wrote:  

(11-03-2013 10:39 AM)MU ATO Wrote:  Marshall will host whomever survives the west.

Why? Out of conference you edged Mini-Miami and beat up on the Webb's gardener.

Your OOC competition comes into play in the event of a tie. How many FBS wins do those two have?

Adler,

Been meaning to ask....are you a Psych guy? Or is Adler another reference?

(11-03-2013 03:41 PM)Hank Rearden Wrote:  

(11-03-2013 11:56 AM)StillJonesing Wrote:  We are 11-2 in CUSA the last 2 years with Carden starting. It's not a fluke and until someone not named UCF or Tulane beat us particularly the CUSA 3.0 teams that all wish us to lose each week there is not much else to discuss. We were the favorites and we've still been that the whole time, have the highest rankings etc.

But you're NOT the favorite. ECU will be an underdog in Huntington. That, by definition, means you're not a favorite.

So you've already got the line for that game?

(11-03-2013 03:17 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(11-03-2013 01:34 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(11-03-2013 11:56 AM)StillJonesing Wrote:  We are 11-2 in CUSA the last 2 years with Carden starting. It's not a fluke and until someone not named UCF or Tulane beat us particularly the CUSA 3.0 teams that all wish us to lose each week there is not much else to discuss. We were the favorites and we've still been that the whole time, have the highest rankings etc.

I'm torn. I wanted ECU, Tulsa, and Tulane to lose all season, because I wanted y'all to go to the AAC on a down note. Nothing personal. I'm sure you understand. But, with UNT looking at a possible chance at the conference title game, I'd want UNT to play the best team from the East. Whichever team wins the ECU @ Marshall game would be great. If it is Marshall, then the conference championship will stay with C-USA 3.0. If it is ECU, then UNT would have an opportunity to earn some respect from a few of the ECU fans that still don't believe the Mean Green are for real. Either matchup would be a great game for North Texas, if we can take care of our business and get to the title game.

For me at least, NT , or any other school, would have to have several good seasons in a row to earn any real respect. Isn't your team primarily a Senior one this year?

Yes, we will lose several seniors. We have 6 seniors starting on offense and 7 on defense. Coach Mac rotates players at most positions, so many starters next season will have plenty of game experience. But, losing so many starters will probably hurt, just like it hurt Tulsa and LA Tech this season.

(11-03-2013 04:27 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(11-03-2013 03:17 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(11-03-2013 01:34 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(11-03-2013 11:56 AM)StillJonesing Wrote:  We are 11-2 in CUSA the last 2 years with Carden starting. It's not a fluke and until someone not named UCF or Tulane beat us particularly the CUSA 3.0 teams that all wish us to lose each week there is not much else to discuss. We were the favorites and we've still been that the whole time, have the highest rankings etc.

I'm torn. I wanted ECU, Tulsa, and Tulane to lose all season, because I wanted y'all to go to the AAC on a down note. Nothing personal. I'm sure you understand. But, with UNT looking at a possible chance at the conference title game, I'd want UNT to play the best team from the East. Whichever team wins the ECU @ Marshall game would be great. If it is Marshall, then the conference championship will stay with C-USA 3.0. If it is ECU, then UNT would have an opportunity to earn some respect from a few of the ECU fans that still don't believe the Mean Green are for real. Either matchup would be a great game for North Texas, if we can take care of our business and get to the title game.

For me at least, NT , or any other school, would have to have several good seasons in a row to earn any real respect. Isn't your team primarily a Senior one this year?

Yes, we will lose several seniors. We have 6 seniors starting on offense and 7 on defense. Coach Mac rotates players at most positions, so many starters next season will have plenty of game experience. But, losing so many starters will probably hurt, just like it hurt Tulsa and LA Tech this season.

Smart on Mac's part to rotate players.

(11-03-2013 03:47 PM)Hank Rearden Wrote:  

(11-03-2013 12:05 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  [quote='Side Show Joe' pid='9948115' dateline='1383493042']
[quote='Indiana Bones' pid='9948043' dateline='1383492242']

Marshall lost to UAB last year and don't be surprised if UAB gives them a really tough game again this year. My prediction is UAB by a field goal, because UAB is one of the best offenses that Marshall will have faced all year.

UAB is currently a 3+ touchdown underdog vs. Marshall. Seeing that you think the Blazers will not only cover, but win outright, this presents an opportunity for you to make a lot of money.

Of course, this is just your typical ECU fan delusion, hoping that Marshall loses another game because it's a near-certainty that ECU will lose in Huntington.

The near certainty will be Marshall will kill UAB and have to play one of their best games of the year to beat ECU. This game is a war every year. Evidently you somehow think ECU just formed a team... and its fans just started following college football. Neither is case.

(11-03-2013 04:31 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(11-03-2013 04:27 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(11-03-2013 03:17 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(11-03-2013 01:34 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(11-03-2013 11:56 AM)StillJonesing Wrote:  We are 11-2 in CUSA the last 2 years with Carden starting. It's not a fluke and until someone not named UCF or Tulane beat us particularly the CUSA 3.0 teams that all wish us to lose each week there is not much else to discuss. We were the favorites and we've still been that the whole time, have the highest rankings etc.

I'm torn. I wanted ECU, Tulsa, and Tulane to lose all season, because I wanted y'all to go to the AAC on a down note. Nothing personal. I'm sure you understand. But, with UNT looking at a possible chance at the conference title game, I'd want UNT to play the best team from the East. Whichever team wins the ECU @ Marshall game would be great. If it is Marshall, then the conference championship will stay with C-USA 3.0. If it is ECU, then UNT would have an opportunity to earn some respect from a few of the ECU fans that still don't believe the Mean Green are for real. Either matchup would be a great game for North Texas, if we can take care of our business and get to the title game.

For me at least, NT , or any other school, would have to have several good seasons in a row to earn any real respect. Isn't your team primarily a Senior one this year?

Yes, we will lose several seniors. We have 6 seniors starting on offense and 7 on defense. Coach Mac rotates players at most positions, so many starters next season will have plenty of game experience. But, losing so many starters will probably hurt, just like it hurt Tulsa and LA Tech this season.

Smart on Mac's part to rotate players.

Ever since he got to campus, he has talked about building this program the right way. He redshirts almost every player, grows them bigger, stronger, and faster, in the conditioning program, and starts rotating them into games after they prove themselves and understand the system.

(11-03-2013 03:41 PM)Hank Rearden Wrote:  

(11-03-2013 11:56 AM)StillJonesing Wrote:  We are 11-2 in CUSA the last 2 years with Carden starting. It's not a fluke and until someone not named UCF or Tulane beat us particularly the CUSA 3.0 teams that all wish us to lose each week there is not much else to discuss. We were the favorites and we've still been that the whole time, have the highest rankings etc.

But you're NOT the favorite. ECU will be an underdog in Huntington. That, by definition, means you're not a favorite.

That is speculation at this point..but..it will not matter anyway. The 2 teams know each other well and both know this will be a war.

(11-03-2013 04:09 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(11-03-2013 03:41 PM)Hank Rearden Wrote:  

(11-03-2013 11:56 AM)StillJonesing Wrote:  We are 11-2 in CUSA the last 2 years with Carden starting. It's not a fluke and until someone not named UCF or Tulane beat us particularly the CUSA 3.0 teams that all wish us to lose each week there is not much else to discuss. We were the favorites and we've still been that the whole time, have the highest rankings etc.

But you're NOT the favorite. ECU will be an underdog in Huntington. That, by definition, means you're not a favorite.

So you've already got the line for that game?

UTSA is a 7 point Favorited over Tulane. I guess that makes them them the favoirite to win CUSA too even though they have what 3 wins

(11-03-2013 05:00 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(11-03-2013 04:31 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(11-03-2013 04:27 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(11-03-2013 03:17 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(11-03-2013 01:34 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  I'm torn. I wanted ECU, Tulsa, and Tulane to lose all season, because I wanted y'all to go to the AAC on a down note. Nothing personal. I'm sure you understand. But, with UNT looking at a possible chance at the conference title game, I'd want UNT to play the best team from the East. Whichever team wins the ECU @ Marshall game would be great. If it is Marshall, then the conference championship will stay with C-USA 3.0. If it is ECU, then UNT would have an opportunity to earn some respect from a few of the ECU fans that still don't believe the Mean Green are for real. Either matchup would be a great game for North Texas, if we can take care of our business and get to the title game.

For me at least, NT , or any other school, would have to have several good seasons in a row to earn any real respect. Isn't your team primarily a Senior one this year?

Yes, we will lose several seniors. We have 6 seniors starting on offense and 7 on defense. Coach Mac rotates players at most positions, so many starters next season will have plenty of game experience. But, losing so many starters will probably hurt, just like it hurt Tulsa and LA Tech this season.

Smart on Mac's part to rotate players.

Ever since he got to campus, he has talked about building this program the right way. He redshirts almost every player, grows them bigger, stronger, and faster, in the conditioning program, and starts rotating them into games after they prove themselves and understand the system.

Coach Ruff has what he calls a JV team at ECU. These are the younger players who are not ready to play yet. ECU holds a live scrimmage every Thursday night for these players to prove their case for getting starting time. These thursday nights have paid huge benefits to the program