(02-16-2018 06:48 PM)mj4life Wrote:  

(02-16-2018 04:54 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(02-15-2018 07:18 PM)mj4life Wrote:  ECU just doesn't offer much to the SEC period, if the goal is to maximize revenue then UNC is the only school that gets you closest to that figure followed by NCSU

If UNC were available without a huge financial hurdle, then that would open up the door for Clemson, Florida State, VT, Miami, Louisville, GT, who would all be more favorable gets than UNC.

Louisville,GT & VT are debatable. Either way we are talking about whether or not ECU adds value & it just doesn't

From a less biased point of view, (Mj4life and unc in your sig) Louisville, GT, and VT are not debatable. I would have answered differently a few years ago when they still had academics going for them.

ECU adds value as it adds Raleigh and ENC to the SEC media market along with the Tidewater area of Virginia.

(02-19-2018 12:56 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(02-16-2018 06:48 PM)mj4life Wrote:  

(02-16-2018 04:54 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(02-15-2018 07:18 PM)mj4life Wrote:  ECU just doesn't offer much to the SEC period, if the goal is to maximize revenue then UNC is the only school that gets you closest to that figure followed by NCSU

If UNC were available without a huge financial hurdle, then that would open up the door for Clemson, Florida State, VT, Miami, Louisville, GT, who would all be more favorable gets than UNC.

Louisville,GT & VT are debatable. Either way we are talking about whether or not ECU adds value & it just doesn't

From a less biased point of view, (Mj4life and unc in your sig) Louisville, GT, and VT are not debatable. I would have answered differently a few years ago when they still had academics going for them.

No bias at all, What metrics in your mind make them a better add? But it still doesn't have anything to do with whether ECU adds value or not.

(02-19-2018 10:04 PM)mj4life Wrote:  

(02-19-2018 12:56 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(02-16-2018 06:48 PM)mj4life Wrote:  

(02-16-2018 04:54 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(02-15-2018 07:18 PM)mj4life Wrote:  ECU just doesn't offer much to the SEC period, if the goal is to maximize revenue then UNC is the only school that gets you closest to that figure followed by NCSU

If UNC were available without a huge financial hurdle, then that would open up the door for Clemson, Florida State, VT, Miami, Louisville, GT, who would all be more favorable gets than UNC.

Louisville,GT & VT are debatable. Either way we are talking about whether or not ECU adds value & it just doesn't

From a less biased point of view, (Mj4life and unc in your sig) Louisville, GT, and VT are not debatable. I would have answered differently a few years ago when they still had academics going for them.

No bias at all, What metrics in your mind make them a better add? But it still doesn't have anything to do with whether ECU adds value or not.

I'm looking at on-field results and viewership.

It does have something to do with whether ECU adds value. ECU is currently the best NC option (and better than SC and VA options for that matter) due to ACC exit fees.

You say that UNC would be the best option. I'm saying that if exit fees were not an issue, then they also wouldn't be an issue for the more valuable ACC teams.

(02-20-2018 03:07 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(02-19-2018 10:04 PM)mj4life Wrote:  

(02-19-2018 12:56 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(02-16-2018 06:48 PM)mj4life Wrote:  

(02-16-2018 04:54 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  If UNC were available without a huge financial hurdle, then that would open up the door for Clemson, Florida State, VT, Miami, Louisville, GT, who would all be more favorable gets than UNC.

Louisville,GT & VT are debatable. Either way we are talking about whether or not ECU adds value & it just doesn't

From a less biased point of view, (Mj4life and unc in your sig) Louisville, GT, and VT are not debatable. I would have answered differently a few years ago when they still had academics going for them.

No bias at all, What metrics in your mind make them a better add? But it still doesn't have anything to do with whether ECU adds value or not.

I'm looking at on-field results and viewership.

It does have something to do with whether ECU adds value. ECU is currently the best NC option (and better than SC and VA options for that matter) due to ACC exit fees.

You say that UNC would be the best option. I'm saying that if exit fees were not an issue, then they also wouldn't be an issue for the more valuable ACC teams.

If the SEC values adding a team in NC then yes UNC is the best option followed by NCSU. So their is no need to add ECU since you don't add much from a tv,academic or research perspective. You would be at the bottom of every meaninful category in the SEC

(02-20-2018 03:40 PM)mj4life Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 03:07 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(02-19-2018 10:04 PM)mj4life Wrote:  

(02-19-2018 12:56 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(02-16-2018 06:48 PM)mj4life Wrote:  Louisville,GT & VT are debatable. Either way we are talking about whether or not ECU adds value & it just doesn't

From a less biased point of view, (Mj4life and unc in your sig) Louisville, GT, and VT are not debatable. I would have answered differently a few years ago when they still had academics going for them.

No bias at all, What metrics in your mind make them a better add? But it still doesn't have anything to do with whether ECU adds value or not.

I'm looking at on-field results and viewership.

It does have something to do with whether ECU adds value. ECU is currently the best NC option (and better than SC and VA options for that matter) due to ACC exit fees.

You say that UNC would be the best option. I'm saying that if exit fees were not an issue, then they also wouldn't be an issue for the more valuable ACC teams.

If the SEC values adding a team in NC then yes UNC is the best option followed by NCSU. So their is no need to add ECU since you don't add much from a tv,academic or research perspective. You would be at the bottom of every meaninful category in the SEC

From a value perspective the pecking order is:
1. North Carollina
2. N.C. State
3. Duke

Wake Forest and East Carolina don't really have a shot. East Carolina's issue is that no network wants to pay big money for a 5th P school from a state of 9.5 million. They don't like paying for 5 in Texas and they have 32 million.

It's really as simple as that.

(02-20-2018 03:40 PM)mj4life Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 03:07 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(02-19-2018 10:04 PM)mj4life Wrote:  

(02-19-2018 12:56 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(02-16-2018 06:48 PM)mj4life Wrote:  Louisville,GT & VT are debatable. Either way we are talking about whether or not ECU adds value & it just doesn't

From a less biased point of view, (Mj4life and unc in your sig) Louisville, GT, and VT are not debatable. I would have answered differently a few years ago when they still had academics going for them.

No bias at all, What metrics in your mind make them a better add? But it still doesn't have anything to do with whether ECU adds value or not.

I'm looking at on-field results and viewership.

It does have something to do with whether ECU adds value. ECU is currently the best NC option (and better than SC and VA options for that matter) due to ACC exit fees.

You say that UNC would be the best option. I'm saying that if exit fees were not an issue, then they also wouldn't be an issue for the more valuable ACC teams.

If the SEC values adding a team in NC then yes UNC is the best option followed by NCSU. So their is no need to add ECU since you don't add much from a tv,academic or research perspective. You would be at the bottom of every meaninful category in the SEC

That would make me think that NC State would be the preferred option. I'm not sure how the tv numbers stack up (does UNC Chapel Hill have more eyeballs?), but they have not ruined their academic reputation so far, and they are even more competitive than ECU on the field recently.

But...again, I was talking about the AVAILABLE options in the region.

(02-20-2018 07:10 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 03:40 PM)mj4life Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 03:07 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(02-19-2018 10:04 PM)mj4life Wrote:  

(02-19-2018 12:56 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  From a less biased point of view, (Mj4life and unc in your sig) Louisville, GT, and VT are not debatable. I would have answered differently a few years ago when they still had academics going for them.

No bias at all, What metrics in your mind make them a better add? But it still doesn't have anything to do with whether ECU adds value or not.

I'm looking at on-field results and viewership.

It does have something to do with whether ECU adds value. ECU is currently the best NC option (and better than SC and VA options for that matter) due to ACC exit fees.

You say that UNC would be the best option. I'm saying that if exit fees were not an issue, then they also wouldn't be an issue for the more valuable ACC teams.

If the SEC values adding a team in NC then yes UNC is the best option followed by NCSU. So their is no need to add ECU since you don't add much from a tv,academic or research perspective. You would be at the bottom of every meaninful category in the SEC

That would make me think that NC State would be the preferred option. I'm not sure how the tv numbers stack up (does UNC Chapel Hill have more eyeballs?), but they have not ruined their academic reputation so far, and they are even more competitive than ECU on the field recently.

But...again, I was talking about the AVAILABLE options in the region.

That means there are NO OPTIONS from the state of NC which is what I was talking about

(02-20-2018 07:20 PM)mj4life Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 07:10 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 03:40 PM)mj4life Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 03:07 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(02-19-2018 10:04 PM)mj4life Wrote:  No bias at all, What metrics in your mind make them a better add? But it still doesn't have anything to do with whether ECU adds value or not.

I'm looking at on-field results and viewership.

It does have something to do with whether ECU adds value. ECU is currently the best NC option (and better than SC and VA options for that matter) due to ACC exit fees.

You say that UNC would be the best option. I'm saying that if exit fees were not an issue, then they also wouldn't be an issue for the more valuable ACC teams.

If the SEC values adding a team in NC then yes UNC is the best option followed by NCSU. So their is no need to add ECU since you don't add much from a tv,academic or research perspective. You would be at the bottom of every meaninful category in the SEC

That would make me think that NC State would be the preferred option. I'm not sure how the tv numbers stack up (does UNC Chapel Hill have more eyeballs?), but they have not ruined their academic reputation so far, and they are even more competitive than ECU on the field recently.

But...again, I was talking about the AVAILABLE options in the region.

That means there are NO OPTIONS from the state of NC which is what I was talking about

There's really no reason to be defensive. I have respect for all the other NC schools, and enjoy each time we play.

Site work is almost done. Should be going vertical soon. Our stadium capacity will be larger then UNC once completed and only a 3,000 less than NC State.

We need to get some of you guys on the baseball schedule. We play the regional ACC pretty regularly, but not too many SEC teams outside of the Ole Miss series to kick off last year.

Would like to get something regular going with Georgia, SC, Florida, and Tennessee.

Stadium expansion update. New expansion and press box should be the same size as upper deck to make the stadium symmetrical.

(05-06-2018 06:57 PM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  Stadium expansion update. New expansion and press box should be the same size as upper deck to make the stadium symmetrical.

When is that supposed to be complete?

(05-11-2018 09:31 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  

(05-06-2018 06:57 PM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  Stadium expansion update. New expansion and press box should be the same size as upper deck to make the stadium symmetrical.

When is that supposed to be complete?

Second Quarter of 2019.

(05-12-2018 06:38 AM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  

(05-11-2018 09:31 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  

(05-06-2018 06:57 PM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  Stadium expansion update. New expansion and press box should be the same size as upper deck to make the stadium symmetrical.

When is that supposed to be complete?

Second Quarter of 2019.

Cool stuff. I have no doubts y'all will be able to fill it up. Looking forward to some more of our games here in the next few years.

Just an observation, but this thread may be the longest continually running realignment thread on the internet. It may be worth checking out but from the OP until now this thread has been alive for 13 years! Now that Landthieves and Shaggybevo have passed into history this thread may be it.

I'll give a plus 3 in reputation to any E.C.U. fan that can confirm whether or not this is indeed the longest continually running realignment thread on the internet.

(05-17-2018 03:29 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
Just an observation, but this thread may be the longest continually running realignment thread on the internet. It may be worth checking out but from the OP until now this thread has been alive for 13 years! Now that Landthieves and Shaggybevo have passed into history this thread may be it.

I'll give a plus 3 in reputation to any E.C.U. fan that can confirm whether or not this is indeed the longest continually running realignment thread on the internet.

I don’t have time to look into it but it’s pretty crazy that it might be. Just shows you how much of a great fit ECU would be for the SEC. Our baseball would fit in perfectly with SEC baseball. Football may take a few years to catch up on the field but the atmosphere would be right there on day one. Basketball is not good but it’s not good for a lot of the SEC but we are working on it.

(05-17-2018 05:03 PM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  

(05-17-2018 03:29 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
Just an observation, but this thread may be the longest continually running realignment thread on the internet. It may be worth checking out but from the OP until now this thread has been alive for 13 years! Now that Landthieves and Shaggybevo have passed into history this thread may be it.

I'll give a plus 3 in reputation to any E.C.U. fan that can confirm whether or not this is indeed the longest continually running realignment thread on the internet.

I don’t have time to look into it but it’s pretty crazy that it might be. Just shows you how much of a great fit ECU would be for the SEC. Our baseball would fit in perfectly with SEC baseball. Football may take a few years to catch up on the field but the atmosphere would be right there on day one. Basketball is not good but it’s not good for a lot of the SEC but we are working on it.

lol basketball

(05-18-2018 09:56 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(05-17-2018 05:03 PM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  

(05-17-2018 03:29 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
Just an observation, but this thread may be the longest continually running realignment thread on the internet. It may be worth checking out but from the OP until now this thread has been alive for 13 years! Now that Landthieves and Shaggybevo have passed into history this thread may be it.

I'll give a plus 3 in reputation to any E.C.U. fan that can confirm whether or not this is indeed the longest continually running realignment thread on the internet.

I don’t have time to look into it but it’s pretty crazy that it might be. Just shows you how much of a great fit ECU would be for the SEC. Our baseball would fit in perfectly with SEC baseball. Football may take a few years to catch up on the field but the atmosphere would be right there on day one. Basketball is not good but it’s not good for a lot of the SEC but we are working on it.

lol basketball

IMO, the world owes you something for being located in North Carolina and not prioritizing basketball!

(05-18-2018 10:35 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-18-2018 09:56 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(05-17-2018 05:03 PM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  

(05-17-2018 03:29 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
Just an observation, but this thread may be the longest continually running realignment thread on the internet. It may be worth checking out but from the OP until now this thread has been alive for 13 years! Now that Landthieves and Shaggybevo have passed into history this thread may be it.

I'll give a plus 3 in reputation to any E.C.U. fan that can confirm whether or not this is indeed the longest continually running realignment thread on the internet.

I don’t have time to look into it but it’s pretty crazy that it might be. Just shows you how much of a great fit ECU would be for the SEC. Our baseball would fit in perfectly with SEC baseball. Football may take a few years to catch up on the field but the atmosphere would be right there on day one. Basketball is not good but it’s not good for a lot of the SEC but we are working on it.

lol basketball

IMO, the world owes you something for being located in North Carolina and not prioritizing basketball!

The crazy thing about basketball is that is it really is the only the ACC schools care about in NC. NC State could be a really good football school and they have good football support but they still prioritize basketball even though they are most likely never going to be on par with duke and UNC. UNC should be a very good football school but they truly don’t care. It’s so bad now that they are lowing their stadium capacity to 52,000 while ECU is increasing theirs. By 2019 ECUs football stadium will hold 53,500 while UNC will hold 52,000. So the so called G5 program in NC will have a larger and nicer football stadium and better fan support then the flagship. That is very strange for a Southern State. Only thing that was similar would be Louisville before they joined the ACC. Football wise ECU and Louisville are very similar.

When it comes to fan support in college football NC State and ECU are at the top (it’s the best football rivalry in the state and should be played every year but the NC State AD is terrible), then UNC, then a decent drop off to App State, Duke, Charlotte, and then Wake.

For college basketball it’s all Duke and UNC then a drop off to NC State then Wake then a huge drop off to Davidson, ECU, Charlotte, UNCW, etc.

Most of the Walmart UNC fans are UNC basketball fans and that’s it. North Carolina is missing a huge football focus school and ECU would be that school if in P5. We have been that school several years when we have dominated ACC schools.