Cincy, USF, or UConn fans (or sportswriters or whatever) who make this argument are hurting themselves. So you're telling me the only reason UC got better (they had some decent years in C-USA but weren't great) is because they were invited to the Big East? And more specifically the thing about that conference that made them better is the teams that are now gone?

Either that or all that matters is the BCS tag which many of us non AQ fans have been arguing for years but were told time and again that that wasn't true.

So regardless of what the reason is, are we to expect Cincinnati to return to pre-2005 form where the most wins they had in a single season between 1977 and 2004 was 8? Which they did 2 out of those 28 years?

Three certainties in life:

1. Death
2. Taxes
3. Butthurt Texas Tech fans relentlessly trying to show up on UC's doorstep

I was at the game and can attest to there being at least 20k when the game started. I must admit I left early to finish school work before my midnight deadline and noticed the crowd was almost non-existent at the end of the game, but the crowd was there in the first half.

This thread=fail
Memphis will do Memphis

(10-31-2013 04:07 PM)TheEastisPurple Wrote:  Cincy, USF, or UConn fans (or sportswriters or whatever) who make this argument are hurting themselves. So you're telling me the only reason UC got better (they had some decent years in C-USA but weren't great) is because they were invited to the Big East? And more specifically the thing about that conference that made them better is the teams that are now gone?

Either that or all that matters is the BCS tag which many of us non AQ fans have been arguing for years but were told time and again that that wasn't true.

So regardless of what the reason is, are we to expect Cincinnati to return to pre-2005 form where the most wins they had in a single season between 1977 and 2004 was 8? Which they did 2 out of those 28 years?

I'd say the BE and great coaching hires were the reason. BE brought BCS bowl access, better competition, more tv dollars, and better tv exposure. Our recruiting definately improved with the BE affiliation.

One thing to note - I think Dantonio said he was interested in the UC job since it was in a BCS conf.

(10-31-2013 04:39 PM)bearcatmill Wrote:  

(10-31-2013 04:07 PM)TheEastisPurple Wrote:  Cincy, USF, or UConn fans (or sportswriters or whatever) who make this argument are hurting themselves. So you're telling me the only reason UC got better (they had some decent years in C-USA but weren't great) is because they were invited to the Big East? And more specifically the thing about that conference that made them better is the teams that are now gone?

Either that or all that matters is the BCS tag which many of us non AQ fans have been arguing for years but were told time and again that that wasn't true.

So regardless of what the reason is, are we to expect Cincinnati to return to pre-2005 form where the most wins they had in a single season between 1977 and 2004 was 8? Which they did 2 out of those 28 years?

I'd say the BE and great coaching hires were the reason. BE brought BCS bowl access, better competition, more tv dollars, and better tv exposure. Our recruiting definately improved with the BE affiliation.

One thing to note - I think Dantonio said he was interested in the UC job since it was in a BCS conf.

The BCS tag allowed UC to get the kids that prior to the BCS tag were picking between UC, the other instate D1 Schools not named Ohio State. It created separation. The other thing it did was allow UC to keep a few really good players that prior to the BCS tag would have left and gone to Purdue, IU, UofL, UK etc. Kids that didn't want to play in the MAC, didn't want UC but weren't good enough to go to Ohio State. So yes, the Big East was HUGE for UC Football. It also brought in better opponents on a regular basis (big east teams like WVA, UofL, etc) and it gave great exposure. It was at this same time we caught lightning in a bottle with BK. BK took Dantonio's groundwork (I don't think we get Dantonio had we not been a BCS school) and put his foot on the gas. So we had a perfect storm come together and bam…we have won 10 games five of the last six years, have increased our national perception and are at least one of the schools talked about for expansion (whether it happens or not is a different story). The Big East did a lot for UC football.

There was a point in time where Tommy West and DeAngelo Williams were more popular in Memphis than John Calipari or anyone associated with the Grizzlies. This was all while in the old CUSA and the first year of the new CUSA.

(10-31-2013 03:28 PM)mike4memphis Wrote:  

(10-31-2013 01:48 PM)mlb Wrote:  Memphis has been playing those same teams for the past 8 years. UConn, UC, and USF are the only new schools there permanently and I don't see any of them bringing excitement in football (as evidenced by last night's crowd). I'm sorry, I don't see where the AAC is going to help Memphis build its football program.

A couple of things about last night's crowd...it was a Wednesday night, the possible WS clinching game was on and featured Memphis' favorite MLB team (Cards) and the Grizzlies season opener was on TV. Considering there was a 30% chance of rain, and people could stay home and flip between the 3 games, I'd say a crowd of 23,000 was not bad. Don't make such an asinine blanket statement about the future of our program based on last night.

Or one comment from a cabbie.

(10-31-2013 03:40 PM)mlb Wrote:  

(10-31-2013 03:28 PM)mike4memphis Wrote:  A couple of things about last night's crowd...it was a Wednesday night, the possible WS clinching game was on and featured Memphis' favorite MLB team (Cards) and the Grizzlies season opener was on TV. Considering there was a 30% chance of rain, and people could stay home and flip between the 3 games, I'd say a crowd of 23,000 was not bad. Don't make such an asinine blanket statement about the future of our program based on last night.

Sorry, I call it as I see it. I call out UC fans all the time too. It is what it is... and I still don't believe 23K. I remember the game from a few years ago on, if I remember correctly, also a Wednesday night that drew somewhere around 4000 fans. The picture was infamous around these parts for years as GA would pimp Memphis for the Big East.

This is just not an exciting conference to the casual fan.

Dude, there were 20k there last night, trust me. Regarding the game with 4000, we completely sucked (we are awesome now compared to then), it was raining heavily, and many fans were wanting to show their dissatisfaction with the direction on the program under Porter.
Dont worry about our support and fanbase. We have won about 10 games in the last 4.5 seasons. If Cincy had had that level of success, you'd be lucky to have 10k at your games on the best of days.
It has nothing to do with the conference

Not an exciting conference...

2 nationally televised games in 2 nights in Memphis and Houston and both games feel lie the MAC with bad crowds and no energy.

(10-31-2013 02:02 PM)mlb Wrote:  

(10-31-2013 02:00 PM)bearcatfan Wrote:  Memphis had 44,000 for their opener against Duke, 36,000 for Arkansas St., 30,000 for UCF, 16,000 for SMU, and 22,500 last night.

As they continue to lose, attendance will suffer. They need to start winning.

There is zero chance in hell there were 22.5K in attendance last night.

Hell, late in the game before UC's final score to put the game away the UC radio crew said they estimated less than 1500 total in the stands.

We're you there? Easy 20k there...and I've got lots of experience estimating our attendance.

(10-31-2013 01:41 PM)mlb Wrote:  This is from a local sports talk show host who also produces UC football broadcasts.

Quote:Here was a typical exchange from the last two days, this one between a cab driver and I...

Me: Can you take me to the Liberty Bowl?

Cab drive: What's going on there?

Me: A football game.

Cabbie (seeing my UC jacket): Cincinnati, huh?

Me: Yessir

Cabbie: Who are they playing?

Me: Uh, Memphis.

Cabbie: Football?

Me: Uh-huh.

Cabbie: I didn't know.

Read more: http://www.espn1530.com/pages/mo.html?ar...z2jKGVMSCl

UC was once here, but the Big East and winning big helped change that attitude. I don't see the AAC fixing this for Memphis.

bull**** story.

(10-31-2013 08:26 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(10-31-2013 02:02 PM)mlb Wrote:  

(10-31-2013 02:00 PM)bearcatfan Wrote:  Memphis had 44,000 for their opener against Duke, 36,000 for Arkansas St., 30,000 for UCF, 16,000 for SMU, and 22,500 last night.

As they continue to lose, attendance will suffer. They need to start winning.

There is zero chance in hell there were 22.5K in attendance last night.

Hell, late in the game before UC's final score to put the game away the UC radio crew said they estimated less than 1500 total in the stands.

We're you there? Easy 20k there...and I've got lots of experience estimating our attendance.

That guy obviously has an agenda or just an issue with Memphis. Just ignore.

edit.....balance of post deleted after second thought. I'll just leave the above comment and leave.

(10-31-2013 08:07 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Not an exciting conference...

2 nationally televised games in 2 nights in Memphis and Houston and both games feel lie the MAC with bad crowds and no energy.

Better football than Pitt, Cuse, BC, UNC, and many others. You know Houston does not have a home Stadium this year.

And Memphis was playing on a Wed night (Bible Belt) with a 1-5 team, going up against a Grizz-Spurs game on TV.

(10-31-2013 08:41 PM)Lord2FLI Wrote:  

(10-31-2013 01:41 PM)mlb Wrote:  This is from a local sports talk show host who also produces UC football broadcasts.

Quote:Here was a typical exchange from the last two days, this one between a cab driver and I...

Me: Can you take me to the Liberty Bowl?

Cab drive: What's going on there?

Me: A football game.

Cabbie (seeing my UC jacket): Cincinnati, huh?

Me: Yessir

Cabbie: Who are they playing?

Me: Uh, Memphis.

Cabbie: Football?

Me: Uh-huh.

Cabbie: I didn't know.

Read more: http://www.espn1530.com/pages/mo.html?ar...z2jKGVMSCl

UC was once here, but the Big East and winning big helped change that attitude. I don't see the AAC fixing this for Memphis.

bull**** story.

I'm not a Mo Egger fan….I wouldn't get too worried about his little anecdote.

Its simple, win.
We are doing amazing getting 20k buts in seats to a football team who has only won a single game. There is plenty of teams out there that would get NOTHING close to that if they had the record we had.

On top of that its not a secret that Basketball is key in Memphis.
The Grizzlies and Tigers basketball takes a lot of spark out of the football.

Improvement will happen, but with football by far not even close to being our top priority its going to take a while.

At least we bring something to the table, some teams like USF are doing what for this conference? Im not trying to bash im just saying. Maybe some of you should be worrying about them.

(10-31-2013 01:41 PM)mlb Wrote:  This is from a local sports talk show host who also produces UC football broadcasts.

Quote:Here was a typical exchange from the last two days, this one between a cab driver and I...

Me: Can you take me to the Liberty Bowl?

Cab drive: What's going on there?

Me: A football game.

Cabbie (seeing my UC jacket): Cincinnati, huh?

Me: Yessir

Cabbie: Who are they playing?

Me: Uh, Memphis.

Cabbie: Football?

Me: Uh-huh.

Cabbie: I didn't know.

Read more: http://www.espn1530.com/pages/mo.html?ar...z2jKGVMSCl

UC was once here, but the Big East and winning big helped change that attitude. I don't see the AAC fixing this for Memphis.

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Maybe loserville will send you a postcard from the Acc

Bwhahahahaha

This writer is absolutely IGNORANT. Check out this little beauty statement which I have not noticed commented:

"Does East Carolina football move the meter much in, um, North Carolina?"

Does averaging around 50,000 per game and having the most intense football following in the state "not move the meter much". I bet he's never even been to Greenville.

(10-31-2013 03:52 PM)FUB Wrote:  As for the cabbie he is probably and SEC fan there is a lage portion of them here.

If he's driving a cab for a living then he is probably an SEC graduate.