Football Rumor Mill has UC offensive coordinator Eddie Gran as one of the top two candidates for the job.

Wellll...Begin!

Fantastic! I'll give him a letter of recommendation.

He's been coaching for over 25 years and never above a position coach until this year. So to go from RBs coach to OC to HC in a span of a year would be quite a leap.

Please...MAKE IT HAPPEN!

Been calling for Hinshaw to be OC since game #2.

Oh, ahh, no, errr,...please, not that.

I'll bring some boxes to his house to help pack. I'll even waive my usual fee of pizza and beer.

I may be the only one that feels this way but I think this would be detrimental to the program. Our offense is improving and he has always been a great recruiter, especially in the south.

I'd hate to see him leave so soon. He's a good recruiter and the offense finally seems to be hitting its stride. That said, that would be a terrible hire by FAU. This is his first year ever with a title above a position coach. Hard to believe they would want someone with so little experience even as a coordinator.

Against Memphis - 34 points, 437 yards of offense, 329 passing
UConn - 41 points, 525 yards of offense, 388 passing
Temple - 38 points, 475 yards of offense, 270 passing, 222 rushing

Since the USF game, that's 113 points (37.6/game), 1437 yards (479/game).

I'd like to see better rushing totals across the board, and there have been a few head scratching calls, but I'd take these stats anytime.

With 1 less interception and another first down last night, UC would have had 48 points. Throw in a made field goal and a made extra point and it's 52.

Football Rumor Mill also says Gran was a serious candidate when Carl Pelini was previously hired.

(10-31-2013 12:41 PM)bearcatfan Wrote:  Against Memphis - 34 points, 437 yards of offense, 329 passing
UConn - 41 points, 525 yards of offense, 388 passing
Temple - 38 points, 475 yards of offense, 270 passing, 222 rushing

Since the USF game, that's 113 points (37.6/game), 1437 yards (479/game).

I'd like to see better rushing totals across the board, and there have been a few head scratching calls, but I'd take these stats anytime.

What I found fascinating was the Cincinnati is actually leading the AAC with over 1,300 rushing yards this year (last night excluded). I think it's because UC's three runningbacks (Williams, Green, Abernathy) haven't exactly been lighting the world on fire individually but combined by the numbers it looks like they're not doing so bad.

The offensive playcalling has been much better the last few games. Still some head-scratchers at times but overall a night and day improvement over the first 5 games.

They need to give Green 80% of the carries from here on out. Abernathy is good in space but useless trying to run between the tackles.

(10-31-2013 12:37 PM)Marcus Wrote:  I'd hate to see him leave so soon. He's a good recruiter and the offense finally seems to be hitting its stride. That said, that would be a terrible hire by FAU. This is his first year ever with a title above a position coach. Hard to believe they would want someone with so little experience even as a coordinator.

Agree with everything here. Personally I don't get all the qualms with Gran. The offense has been pretty solid the last couple of weeks and what I think is more important, the guy has ADAPTED to his players. Remember in Butch Jones' first year when everyone was clamoring because his system didn't totally fit his personnel but he continued with that system anyways to disastrous results?

Gran seems more prone to adapt to the personnel he's given like Kelly did and the successful offensive numbers reflect that.

Still, to Marcus' last point, I don't understand why a school would hire someone who hasn't even completed his full year as a first-time offensive coordinator.

(10-31-2013 12:52 PM)cinbinsportsfan Wrote:  

(10-31-2013 12:37 PM)Marcus Wrote:  I'd hate to see him leave so soon. He's a good recruiter and the offense finally seems to be hitting its stride. That said, that would be a terrible hire by FAU. This is his first year ever with a title above a position coach. Hard to believe they would want someone with so little experience even as a coordinator.

Agree with everything here. Personally I don't get all the qualms with Gran. The offense has been pretty solid the last couple of weeks and what I think is more important, the guy has ADAPTED to his players. Remember in Butch Jones' first year when everyone was clamoring because his system didn't totally fit his personnel but he continued with that system anyways to disastrous results?

Gran seems more prone to adapt to the personnel he's given like Kelly did and the successful offensive numbers reflect that.

Still, to Marcus' last point, I don't understand why a school would hire someone who hasn't even completed his full year as a first-time offensive coordinator.

You make great points - and he HAS adapted.

I just still have a tough time that a guy would even consider using a back that runs like RDA4 and has the size of RDA4 as a between the tackles bell cow type running back.

I know I need to get over that, but for the first several games every fiber in my being was saying, "WTF are you doing"???

And lets be honest he adapted to doing what every fan here knew the team needed to do. What are the chances that an entire fanbase could diagnose that problem before he could? Why would that happen?

IMO the reason why is that he really didn't study what our team and individual players did WELL for the last few years. He even said flat out that he didn't study those things. And that, for me is a bit tough to forgive.

As far as recruiting goes, with a limited timeframe in advance of signing day, the staff did what they could. So far no one has been thrilled, at least from what i can see, with the recruiting for 2014 (as an aside, i'm not so fearful of that since the weeks leading up to NSD tend to reveal many truths related to offers that would probably benefit Cincy). That being said, i haven't been so impressed with Gran that i would miss him if he walked. Set aside the RDAIV middle runs, which seems to have universal disapproval, the notion that a team can transform from a run spread team to a power run team in one off season makes no gotdam sense whatsoever. Implementation takes time and a longer term transition was probably required for that type of transformation. The fact that he's just now adapting to the team's personnel, their builds/techniques, and their skill sets doesn't give me faith, it gives me pause. Even now, his playcalling leaves much to be desired. The fact that we run short yardage runs out of the shotgun with Luallen on the sidelines is infuriating (and, another aside, that was infuriating with Lyle as well). i hope he continues his growth, even if it is elsewhere, and if he's off to FAU i'll wish him godspeed, but i won't be sad to see him go.

(10-31-2013 01:11 PM)Eastside_J Wrote:  

(10-31-2013 12:52 PM)cinbinsportsfan Wrote:  

(10-31-2013 12:37 PM)Marcus Wrote:  I'd hate to see him leave so soon. He's a good recruiter and the offense finally seems to be hitting its stride. That said, that would be a terrible hire by FAU. This is his first year ever with a title above a position coach. Hard to believe they would want someone with so little experience even as a coordinator.

Agree with everything here. Personally I don't get all the qualms with Gran. The offense has been pretty solid the last couple of weeks and what I think is more important, the guy has ADAPTED to his players. Remember in Butch Jones' first year when everyone was clamoring because his system didn't totally fit his personnel but he continued with that system anyways to disastrous results?

Gran seems more prone to adapt to the personnel he's given like Kelly did and the successful offensive numbers reflect that.

Still, to Marcus' last point, I don't understand why a school would hire someone who hasn't even completed his full year as a first-time offensive coordinator.

You make great points - and he HAS adapted.

I just still have a tough time that a guy would even consider using a back that runs like RDA4 and has the size of RDA4 as a between the tackles bell cow type running back.

I know I need to get over that, but for the first several games every fiber in my being was saying, "WTF are you doing"???

And lets be honest he adapted to doing what every fan here knew the team needed to do. What are the chances that an entire fanbase could diagnose that problem before he could? Why would that happen?

IMO the reason why is that he really didn't study what our team and individual players did WELL for the last few years. He even said flat out that he didn't study those things. And that, for me is a bit tough to forgive.

Oh my god, I know! That's what's so frustrating about Gran. I have to give him credit- Overall, he's adapted the offense really, really well to his personnel. But on the other hand he still shows some of the bad habits that we saw early in the season.

It's like, he'll operate in the shotgun with 4/5-WR sets for 6 or 7 straight plays, move the ball 60-70 yards downfield but then he'll run Abernathy up the middle for the next three plays, he inevitably gets stuffed, and the Bearcats have to settle for a field goal. It's infuriating! I like Gran and think he's done a nice job with the offense of late but why do those bad habits keep rearing their ugly heads?

This thread is soooo low hanging fruit.

Who do we know at FAU?

(10-31-2013 12:41 PM)bearcatfan Wrote:  Against Memphis - 34 points, 437 yards of offense, 329 passing
UConn - 41 points, 525 yards of offense, 388 passing
Temple - 38 points, 475 yards of offense, 270 passing, 222 rushing

Since the USF game, that's 113 points (37.6/game), 1437 yards (479/game).

I'd like to see better rushing totals across the board, and there have been a few head scratching calls, but I'd take these stats anytime.

With 1 less interception and another first down last night, UC would have had 48 points. Throw in a made field goal and a made extra point and it's 52.

With Miliano, you won't get many made FG's. The guy is not consistent enough to be a placekicker for a major program, except maybe for kickoffs. His performance last night was not good.