(10-31-2013 08:32 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(10-31-2013 08:28 AM)john01992 Wrote:  i dunno but syracuse would be the 3rd ACC team (BC & ND) to sponsor it and at that point it doesnt seem far fetched to assume that more ACC schools expand to start an ACC hockey league to rival the b10 or do a joint ACC/B10 conference

Unless UConn joins as a member, Pitt and Cuse adds the sport and the ACC could somehow convince VT to add a team too..it isn't happening.

On the plus side it would give some quality ACC Network programming.

having 3 acc teams to sponsor it would light a fire under the ass of the rest of the acc and could get 3 more teams to move up over the next decade.....

especially if b10 hockey is a success

(10-31-2013 08:44 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(10-31-2013 08:32 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(10-31-2013 08:28 AM)john01992 Wrote:  i dunno but syracuse would be the 3rd ACC team (BC & ND) to sponsor it and at that point it doesnt seem far fetched to assume that more ACC schools expand to start an ACC hockey league to rival the b10 or do a joint ACC/B10 conference

Unless UConn joins as a member, Pitt and Cuse adds the sport and the ACC could somehow convince VT to add a team too..it isn't happening.

On the plus side it would give some quality ACC Network programming.

having 3 acc teams to sponsor it would light a fire under the ass of the rest of the acc and could get 3 more teams to move up over the next decade.....

especially if b10 hockey is a success

ND has its own stand alone NBC Sports TV contract for hockey.

I don't see them wanting to leave that deal and Hockey East to join a fledgling ACC hockey conference.

I love how people expect everything to be an instant smashing success - and if it isn't, it is a failure.

Thankfully, there are some people with a long term vision around.

(10-31-2013 10:15 AM)TerryD Wrote:  

(10-31-2013 08:44 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(10-31-2013 08:32 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(10-31-2013 08:28 AM)john01992 Wrote:  i dunno but syracuse would be the 3rd ACC team (BC & ND) to sponsor it and at that point it doesnt seem far fetched to assume that more ACC schools expand to start an ACC hockey league to rival the b10 or do a joint ACC/B10 conference

Unless UConn joins as a member, Pitt and Cuse adds the sport and the ACC could somehow convince VT to add a team too..it isn't happening.

On the plus side it would give some quality ACC Network programming.

having 3 acc teams to sponsor it would light a fire under the ass of the rest of the acc and could get 3 more teams to move up over the next decade.....

especially if b10 hockey is a success

ND has its own stand alone NBC Sports TV contract for hockey.

I don't see them wanting to leave that deal and Hockey East to join a fledgling ACC hockey conference.

Another reason why I am glad ND is not in the B1G - the Extreme selfishness of the Irish - kinda like vampires - suck the lifeblood out of everything you touch, then move on to next victim, never giving back.

Hockey East, WCHA, and CCHA were always the top 3 conferences. All Big Ten hockey does is solidify Hockey East as the top conference where as before they battled with the WCHA for top dog.

(10-31-2013 10:22 AM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(10-31-2013 10:15 AM)TerryD Wrote:  

(10-31-2013 08:44 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(10-31-2013 08:32 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(10-31-2013 08:28 AM)john01992 Wrote:  i dunno but syracuse would be the 3rd ACC team (BC & ND) to sponsor it and at that point it doesnt seem far fetched to assume that more ACC schools expand to start an ACC hockey league to rival the b10 or do a joint ACC/B10 conference

Unless UConn joins as a member, Pitt and Cuse adds the sport and the ACC could somehow convince VT to add a team too..it isn't happening.

On the plus side it would give some quality ACC Network programming.

having 3 acc teams to sponsor it would light a fire under the ass of the rest of the acc and could get 3 more teams to move up over the next decade.....

especially if b10 hockey is a success

ND has its own stand alone NBC Sports TV contract for hockey.

I don't see them wanting to leave that deal and Hockey East to join a fledgling ACC hockey conference.

Another reason why I am glad ND is not in the B1G - the Extreme selfishness of the Irish - kinda like vampires - suck the lifeblood out of everything you touch, then move on to next victim, never giving back.

Me too.

I wish ND were independent in all sports.

I very much dislike the entire idea of conferences, all/any conferences, for all/any sports.

(10-31-2013 10:21 AM)dbackjon Wrote:  I love how people expect everything to be an instant smashing success - and if it isn't, it is a failure.

Thankfully, there are some people with a long term vision around.

Tell me why Cuse couldn't be a Hockey Power in 5-7 years with the right coach?

Fertile Recruiting Ground--check
Flush with TV $$$ to buy good coaching--check
6000 seat arena less than one mile from campus--check
National name--check
US school popular in Canada--check

(10-31-2013 01:31 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(10-31-2013 10:21 AM)dbackjon Wrote:  I love how people expect everything to be an instant smashing success - and if it isn't, it is a failure.

Thankfully, there are some people with a long term vision around.

Tell me why Cuse couldn't be a Hockey Power in 5-7 years with the right coach?

Fertile Recruiting Ground--check
Flush with TV $$$ to buy good coaching--check
6000 seat arena less than one mile from campus--check
National name--check
US school popular in Canada--check

already has a womens team--check
in a state that already has 10 d1 hockey programs--check

yeah this is a no brainer

(10-31-2013 10:21 AM)dbackjon Wrote:  I love how people expect everything to be an instant smashing success - and if it isn't, it is a failure.

Thankfully, there are some people with a long term vision around.

i dont ever think i said b10 hockey would be an instant success, it is something thats gonna take time & a lot of these b10 schools are in fact downgrading for long term gain

(10-31-2013 01:31 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(10-31-2013 10:21 AM)dbackjon Wrote:  I love how people expect everything to be an instant smashing success - and if it isn't, it is a failure.

Thankfully, there are some people with a long term vision around.

Tell me why Cuse couldn't be a Hockey Power in 5-7 years with the right coach?

Fertile Recruiting Ground--check
Flush with TV $$$ to buy good coaching--check
6000 seat arena less than one mile from campus--check
National name--check
US school popular in Canada--check

Three New York schools would instantly be powers in hockey:

Buffalo
Stony Brook
Syracuse

Right now, only Atlantic Hockey has an opening. The ECAC would have to split down Ivy lines and then add the team.

(10-31-2013 01:31 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(10-31-2013 10:21 AM)dbackjon Wrote:  I love how people expect everything to be an instant smashing success - and if it isn't, it is a failure.

Thankfully, there are some people with a long term vision around.

Tell me why Cuse couldn't be a Hockey Power in 5-7 years with the right coach?

Fertile Recruiting Ground--check
Flush with TV $$$ to buy good coaching--check
6000 seat arena less than one mile from campus--check
National name--check
US school popular in Canada--check

Syracuse would be a great hockey school - but my comment was directed at those on this thread criticizing B1G Hockey in it's first season.

(10-31-2013 01:36 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(10-31-2013 10:21 AM)dbackjon Wrote:  I love how people expect everything to be an instant smashing success - and if it isn't, it is a failure.

Thankfully, there are some people with a long term vision around.

i dont ever think i said b10 hockey would be an instant success, it is something thats gonna take time & a lot of these b10 schools are in fact downgrading for long term gain

Often think that Rutgers and Maryland were added with an understanding that they would have to add hockey. The Big Ten needs some schools for Minn and Mich to fatten up on new that that don't have Mich Tech and N Mich.

The NCHC may have stronger teams and higher attendance that the Big Ten and Hockey East, but they lack the media markets.

Big Ten Hockey is already an excellent, major conference.
Absolutely no question.

I posted about this inaugural "HE-B1G Challenge" because Hockey East dominated an excellent conference, so I wanted to shamelessly toot our horn.

Anyway, ok, they have 6 teams...

Michigan:
since 1991:
22 NCAAs.
11 Frozen Fours.
2 National Championships (96, 98).

Michigan State:
since 1982:
24 NCAAs.
6 Frozen Fours.
2 National Championships (86, 07).

Minnesota:
since 2001:
10 NCAAs.
4 Frozen Fours.
2 National Championships (02, 03).
since 1974:
30 NCAAs.
16 Frozen Fours.
5 National Championships (74, 76, 79, 02, 03).

Wisconsin:
since 2004:
6 NCAAs.
2 Frozen Fours.
1 National Championship (06).
since 1970:
24 NCAAs.
9 Frozen Fours.
6 National Championships (73, 77, 81, 83, 90, 06).

Ohio State:
since 1998:
6 NCAAs
1 Frozen Four.

Penn State:
last season was first in Division-1.

(10-31-2013 02:05 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(10-31-2013 01:36 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(10-31-2013 10:21 AM)dbackjon Wrote:  I love how people expect everything to be an instant smashing success - and if it isn't, it is a failure.

Thankfully, there are some people with a long term vision around.

i dont ever think i said b10 hockey would be an instant success, it is something thats gonna take time & a lot of these b10 schools are in fact downgrading for long term gain

Often think that Rutgers and Maryland were added with an understanding that they would have to add hockey. The Big Ten needs some schools for Minn and Mich to fatten up on new that that don't have Mich Tech and N Mich.

The NCHC may have stronger teams and higher attendance that the Big Ten and Hockey East, but they lack the media markets.

UNL is gonna be the 7th hockey member for the b10 when they do expand.

hell d1 hockey might just be a requirement for b10 admission

(10-31-2013 08:24 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  Some talk of Cuse getting a Men's program...makes a ton of sense. With the right coach they could be a national power within 5-7 years. Would there be room in Hockey East for them after a few years as an Indy or in the Atlantic?

well, once uconn moves to the b10 cuse can take their place.....

(10-31-2013 09:01 PM)gosports1 Wrote:  

(10-31-2013 08:24 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  Some talk of Cuse getting a Men's program...makes a ton of sense. With the right coach they could be a national power within 5-7 years. Would there be room in Hockey East for them after a few years as an Indy or in the Atlantic?

well, once uconn moves to the b10 cuse can take their place.....

provy has a better shot of getting a b10 invite

(10-31-2013 09:05 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(10-31-2013 09:01 PM)gosports1 Wrote:  

(10-31-2013 08:24 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  Some talk of Cuse getting a Men's program...makes a ton of sense. With the right coach they could be a national power within 5-7 years. Would there be room in Hockey East for them after a few years as an Indy or in the Atlantic?

well, once uconn moves to the b10 cuse can take their place.....

provy has a better shot of getting a b10 invite

well, we do have lax and the currently 3rd ranked mens hockey team!