A couple of weeks ago I played in a regional trivia contest in a nearby state. One of my teammates was 24 y.o, but still has a vertical drivers license, issued to her by VA.

VA establishments will serve her alcohol, but the place we were that day would not. I can't remember if the server claimed it was state law or company policy.

Nevertheless, is it a problem that an establishment will discriminate against someone who shows a legitimate state ID to buy alcohol?

Guess looking at the birthdate and doing a little math was too much to ask.

Yeah...The requirement is to be 21, not have a specific type of license.

The only way that I could see something like that flying is in a place like Utah where you have to be a "member" of a club to buy drinks.

(10-28-2013 03:06 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  A couple of weeks ago I played in a regional trivia contest in a nearby state. One of my teammates was 24 y.o, but still has a vertical drivers license, issued to her by VA.

VA establishments will serve her alcohol, but the place we were that day would not. I can't remember if the server claimed it was state law or company policy.

Nevertheless, is it a problem that an establishment will discriminate against someone who shows a legitimate state ID to buy alcohol?

With a liquor license at stake, I'm guessing most places will err on the side of caution.

This has happened to me with a friend from out of state who is obviously of drinking age. We simply went to another bar and spent our money there.

(10-28-2013 03:13 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(10-28-2013 03:06 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  A couple of weeks ago I played in a regional trivia contest in a nearby state. One of my teammates was 24 y.o, but still has a vertical drivers license, issued to her by VA.

VA establishments will serve her alcohol, but the place we were that day would not. I can't remember if the server claimed it was state law or company policy.

Nevertheless, is it a problem that an establishment will discriminate against someone who shows a legitimate state ID to buy alcohol?

With a liquor license at stake, I'm guessing most places will err on the side of caution.

Yea, they "reserve the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason". This simply sounds like a lazy way to make a rule. Vertical = No.

I would have gone elsewhere. Best way to make the point.

Isn't the drinking age 21? Why weren't they served?

To answer your question, I would have left.

I agree with those who simply went to another bar. Best way to make a statement.

In Ohio you must have a valid drivers license to purchase alcohol... even if you are obviously over 21. I'm sure many corporations do that as well.

If a police officer were to just do a spot check of a patron in an establishment to check their age, even if they are 90 they have to have an ID on them or the establishment can be ticketed/fined.

(10-28-2013 03:21 PM)mlb Wrote:  In Ohio you must have a valid drivers license to purchase alcohol... even if you are obviously over 21. I'm sure many corporations do that as well.

If a police officer were to just do a spot check of a patron in an establishment to check their age, even if they are 90 they have to have an ID on them or the establishment can be ticketed/fined.

But, but, that's racist isn't it?

Torch - what is a vertical license? Never heard that term before.

What does vertical mean. I think that term refers to VA licenses.

It's policy at one of my favorite establishments to card everyone - even Grandma - because it is easier to be in complete but abstract compliance with the law than risk a fine and suspension of your liquor license.

(10-28-2013 04:55 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  Torch - what is a vertical license? Never heard that term before.

It's actually printed and read vertically. Makes it easy to distinguish, obviously. Pretty sharp idea, ID's used to be waaaay to easy to knock off. Anyone with a polaroid, poster board and scissors could make one.

(10-28-2013 03:06 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  A couple of weeks ago I played in a regional trivia contest in a nearby state. One of my teammates was 24 y.o, but still has a vertical drivers license, issued to her by VA.

VA establishments will serve her alcohol, but the place we were that day would not. I can't remember if the server claimed it was state law or company policy.

Nevertheless, is it a problem that an establishment will discriminate against someone who shows a legitimate state ID to buy alcohol?

In the state I live in the vertical license expires on your 21st bday so the issue may have been with her license being expired if her state laws on the vertical format is similar to mine.

(10-28-2013 04:55 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  Torch - what is a vertical license? Never heard that term before.

In Ohio the vertically formatted license is for under 21s. It makes an underage license very easy to spot. Over 21s have a horizontally formatted license. As a prior posted stated you have to have a valid license on you in Ohio to be served.