I'm a sunshine pumper also and think we could still make a bowl game . UofL is beatable. I also think we should split this board between football and basketball. It's time for all the ol'school people on this board to face the fact that football is the factor in the conference picture.

(10-19-2013 01:37 AM)Tiger-n-Bear Wrote:  I'm a sunshine pumper also and think we could still make a bowl game . UofL is beatable. I also think we should split this board between football and basketball. It's time for all the ol'school people on this board to face the fact that football is the factor in the conference picture.

You're right about football driving the realignment craze but... it might be a good idea to sit back and watch developments which could certainly change that. The writing is already on the walls. O'Bannon et al has already divided the 'powers that be' without ever presenting their case before the courts. Both CLC and EA have already agreed to a settlement, leaving the NCAA holding the bag.

While folks like Mike Aresco have come out against paying student athletes, they're missing the point. The decision does not lay with athletic directors, university presidents or the NCAA. The courts will determine if a employer/ employee relationship has already been established. If so, student athletes will be paid whether the powers that be like it or not. Not only will they be ordered to pay those employees, they will be required to provide insurance coverage and other benefits just like any other employer. The NCAA would most likely lose their nonprofit status resulting in reclassification of revenue as taxable income.

Universities would be forced to abandon university-sponsored sports, or at the very least football due to the sheer number of student athletes on the rosters. The NCAA was abandoned by the NFL too. The NFL's settlement over the concussion lawsuit pretty much condemned the NCAA's chances of avoiding liability for future medical expenses.

It wouldn't be wise to invest heavily in football at either the collegiate or professional level. Football is not the driving force; football revenue is the motivation. The powers that be have already made it clear they have no intention of sharing the wealth with student athletes or anyone else. The courts will decide that matter on behalf of student athletes and the "anyone else" is the IRS. We all know Uncle Sam will get his share!

(10-19-2013 02:43 AM)shafted1 Wrote:  

(10-19-2013 01:37 AM)Tiger-n-Bear Wrote:  I'm a sunshine pumper also and think we could still make a bowl game . UofL is beatable. I also think we should split this board between football and basketball. It's time for all the ol'school people on this board to face the fact that football is the factor in the conference picture.

You're right about football driving the realignment craze but... it might be a good idea to sit back and watch developments which could certainly change that. The writing is already on the walls. O'Bannon et al has already divided the 'powers that be' without ever presenting their case before the courts. Both CLC and EA have already agreed to a settlement, leaving the NCAA holding the bag.

While folks like Mike Aresco have come out against paying student athletes, they're missing the point. The decision does not lay with athletic directors, university presidents or the NCAA. The courts will determine if a employer/ employee relationship has already been established. If so, student athletes will be paid whether the powers that be like it or not. Not only will they be ordered to pay those employees, they will be required to provide insurance coverage and other benefits just like any other employer. The NCAA would most likely lose their nonprofit status resulting in reclassification of revenue as taxable income.

Universities would be forced to abandon university-sponsored sports, or at the very least football due to the sheer number of student athletes on the rosters. The NCAA was abandoned by the NFL too. The NFL's settlement over the concussion lawsuit pretty much condemned the NCAA's chances of avoiding liability for future medical expenses.

It wouldn't be wise to invest heavily in football at either the collegiate or professional level. Football is not the driving force; football revenue is the motivation. The powers that be have already made it clear they have no intention of sharing the wealth with student athletes or anyone else. The courts will decide that matter on behalf of student athletes and the "anyone else" is the IRS. We all know Uncle Sam will get his share!

WTH?

Great game UCF.

While louise has been good- often really good- this idea they were spinning and that a few too many bought into was that they were of course elite.

Er- no.

(and yes- to the self loathers, they have been much better than our teams and I get that- but we are not lording over others as though we are Alabama)

Good enough to upset Florida last year and that kept them in the top ten. They are also good enough to win all their remaining games, still win the AAC and play in the Orange Bowl. But...they were not elite.

Blake Bortles is a very very good QB.

Memphis harassed him all day, knocked him around but he's tough and experienced and was the difference that day.

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(10-19-2013 09:19 AM)Mimi Wrote:  While louise has been good- often really good- this idea they were spinning and that a few too many bought into was that they were of course elite.

Er- no.

(and yes- to the self loathers, they have been much better than our teams and I get that- but we are not lording over others as though we are Alabama)

Good enough to upset Florida last year and that kept them in the top ten. They are also good enough to win all their remaining games, still win the AAC and play in the Orange Bowl. But...they were not elite.

How much mileage can Louisville really expect to get out of beating an uninterested Florida team in the Sugar Bowl?

(10-19-2013 09:33 AM)Cletus Wrote:  Blake Bortles is a very very good QB.

Memphis harassed him all day, knocked him around but he's tough and experienced and was the difference that day.

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Bortles has really matured over the last 2 years...I'm sooooooooo glad that UCF was one of the few schools that wanted him to play QB...as most of the major programs wanted him as a TE.

(10-19-2013 09:59 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(10-19-2013 09:33 AM)Cletus Wrote:  Blake Bortles is a very very good QB.

Memphis harassed him all day, knocked him around but he's tough and experienced and was the difference that day.

.

Bortles has really matured over the last 2 years...I'm sooooooooo glad that UCF was one of the few schools that wanted him to play QB...as most of the major programs wanted him as a TE.

Great win. Gut check time and UCF got it done, on the road.

(10-19-2013 09:39 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(10-19-2013 09:19 AM)Mimi Wrote:  While louise has been good- often really good- this idea they were spinning and that a few too many bought into was that they were of course elite.

Er- no.

(and yes- to the self loathers, they have been much better than our teams and I get that- but we are not lording over others as though we are Alabama)

Good enough to upset Florida last year and that kept them in the top ten. They are also good enough to win all their remaining games, still win the AAC and play in the Orange Bowl. But...they were not elite.

How much mileage can Louisville really expect to get out of beating an uninterested Florida team in the Sugar Bowl?

Sadly, WAY too much.

New Coaches Poll:
#16 Louisville
#25 UCF

New AP Poll:
#18 Louisville
#21 UCF

Above is just a joke...as UCF has played the much tougher schedule (at Penn State, home to South Carolina, at UL) vs who UL has played.

UL's best wins so far this year was HOME to Ohio and Rutgers.

UCF's best wins so far this year were at Penn State and at #8 Louisville.

UL played a Div I-AA team....UCF cancelled their Div I-AA opponent so they could play Penn State.

Basis any vote in late Oct on what a team did LAST YEAR is pathetic.

That sucks that UCF lost to South Carolina. Y'all would of shot up the ranks if you would have won that one.

(10-20-2013 03:08 PM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(10-19-2013 09:39 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(10-19-2013 09:19 AM)Mimi Wrote:  While louise has been good- often really good- this idea they were spinning and that a few too many bought into was that they were of course elite.

Er- no.

(and yes- to the self loathers, they have been much better than our teams and I get that- but we are not lording over others as though we are Alabama)

Good enough to upset Florida last year and that kept them in the top ten. They are also good enough to win all their remaining games, still win the AAC and play in the Orange Bowl. But...they were not elite.

How much mileage can Louisville really expect to get out of beating an uninterested Florida team in the Sugar Bowl?

Sadly, WAY too much.

New Coaches Poll:
#16 Louisville
#25 UCF

New AP Poll:
#18 Louisville
#21 UCF

Above is just a joke...as UCF has played the much tougher schedule (at Penn State, home to South Carolina, at UL) vs who UL has played.

UL's best wins so far this year was HOME to Ohio and Rutgers.

UCF's best wins so far this year were at Penn State and at #8 Louisville.

UL played a Div I-AA team....UCF cancelled their Div I-AA opponent so they could play Penn State.

Basis any vote in late Oct on what a team did LAST YEAR is pathetic.

Agree 100% on the rankings.

Too bad you spend so much of your time bashing Memphis, Memphians and our university.

Your seeking pity would be more admirable if your nest sentence elsewhere was not mocking us.

(10-20-2013 04:04 PM)Mimi Wrote:  

(10-20-2013 03:08 PM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(10-19-2013 09:39 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(10-19-2013 09:19 AM)Mimi Wrote:  While louise has been good- often really good- this idea they were spinning and that a few too many bought into was that they were of course elite.

Er- no.

(and yes- to the self loathers, they have been much better than our teams and I get that- but we are not lording over others as though we are Alabama)

Good enough to upset Florida last year and that kept them in the top ten. They are also good enough to win all their remaining games, still win the AAC and play in the Orange Bowl. But...they were not elite.

How much mileage can Louisville really expect to get out of beating an uninterested Florida team in the Sugar Bowl?

Sadly, WAY too much.

New Coaches Poll:
#16 Louisville
#25 UCF

New AP Poll:
#18 Louisville
#21 UCF

Above is just a joke...as UCF has played the much tougher schedule (at Penn State, home to South Carolina, at UL) vs who UL has played.

UL's best wins so far this year was HOME to Ohio and Rutgers.

UCF's best wins so far this year were at Penn State and at #8 Louisville.

UL played a Div I-AA team....UCF cancelled their Div I-AA opponent so they could play Penn State.

Basis any vote in late Oct on what a team did LAST YEAR is pathetic.

Agree 100% on the rankings.

That's cool...that comment certainly adds to the conversation of this thread.

(10-19-2013 02:51 AM)MM4Memphis Wrote:  WTH?

I merely pointed out as one of those "old school folks on this board" what you young whipper snappers are overlooking. I'll use an old school adage to assist in making my point: The Titanic was the grandest of all ships in her day. How much good would have been derived from rearranging the furniture on the Titanic? Would it prevent the sinking of the ship? Not hardly!

As you 'almost' correctly pointed out, football revenue (not football itself) is the driving force behind conference realignment. How much sense does it make to rearrange football teams [aka: furniture] on a sinking ship [aka: university-sponsored Division I football]?

The NFL settled out of court in the 'concussion' liability lawsuit. CLC and EA have already agreed to settle out of court in the O'Bannon et al lawsuit. That leaves the NCAA to fend for themselves on the proverbial sinking ship. The power 5 conferences are furiously rearranging the furniture on that same sinking ship. Regardless of how they realign football programs, it is still a lost cause should the courts rule in favor of O'Bannon et al.

You still think us "old school" folks need to get with the program?

Awww.

Doesn't add to your whining conversation...but certainly adds to the understanding that someone like yourself, while whining here...disparages Memphis constantly.

Kind of makes you a gimp.

But- keep seeking friends.