(10-18-2013 03:24 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(10-18-2013 03:02 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  It was tolerable until the, "Syracuse is the Big Dog of the Big East" line.

Not here in the middle of the country ... the perception in the central time zone is UConn BB > Syracuse BB since 1990.

Gee, a UConn fan is saying UConn is better than Syracuse over the past couple of decades. Imagine that...

BTW Jim Calhoun was UConn basketball. The Huskies were nothing before he got there, and now he's gone. Where does that put UConn in a couple of years?

As much as I hate to back up a Syracuse fan, you're wrong...

I think you are wrong. Here is why:

Since 1990 (as the poster suggested)

National Champs: Uconn 3 Cuse 1
Final Fours: UConn 4 Cuse 3
Elite 8s: Uconn 9 Cuse 4
Sweet 16s: Uconn 13 Cuse 11
Appearances: Cuse 19 Uconn 18
Big East Tournament Championships: Uconn 7 Cuse 3
Big East Reg Season: Uconn 10 Cuse 7

whats with the dig on depaul? what has depaul ever done to hitler?

(10-18-2013 03:51 PM)Hank Schrader Wrote:  

(10-18-2013 03:24 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(10-18-2013 03:02 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  It was tolerable until the, "Syracuse is the Big Dog of the Big East" line.

Not here in the middle of the country ... the perception in the central time zone is UConn BB > Syracuse BB since 1990.

Gee, a UConn fan is saying UConn is better than Syracuse over the past couple of decades. Imagine that...

BTW Jim Calhoun was UConn basketball. The Huskies were nothing before he got there, and now he's gone. Where does that put UConn in a couple of years?

As much as I hate to back up a Syracuse fan, you're wrong...

I think you are wrong. Here is why:

Since 1990 (as the poster suggested)

National Champs: Uconn 3 Cuse 1
Final Fours: UConn 4 Cuse 3
Elite 8s: Uconn 9 Cuse 4
Sweet 16s: Uconn 13 Cuse 11
Appearances: Cuse 19 Uconn 18
Big East Tournament Championships: Uconn 7 Cuse 3
Big East Reg Season: Uconn 10 Cuse 7

Sadly for my UConn buddy this is only one part of branding and national perception.

(10-18-2013 02:41 PM)TRest3 Wrote:  

(10-18-2013 12:42 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  I guess you don't read your own UConn fan board...you guys seemed pretty obsessed yourselves.

Since you're keeping a close eye on the UConn boards for me, you can keep everyone abreast about obsessions. Apparently Cuse fans are finding out what BC fans already know: the original ACC members could not care less about you guys.

What in God's name are you talking about? No BC fan would agree with you.

(10-18-2013 03:51 PM)Hank Schrader Wrote:  

(10-18-2013 03:24 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(10-18-2013 03:02 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  It was tolerable until the, "Syracuse is the Big Dog of the Big East" line.

Not here in the middle of the country ... the perception in the central time zone is UConn BB > Syracuse BB since 1990.

Gee, a UConn fan is saying UConn is better than Syracuse over the past couple of decades. Imagine that...

BTW Jim Calhoun was UConn basketball. The Huskies were nothing before he got there, and now he's gone. Where does that put UConn in a couple of years?

As much as I hate to back up a Syracuse fan, you're wrong...

I think you are wrong. Here is why:

Since 1990 (as the poster suggested)

National Champs: Uconn 3 Cuse 1
Final Fours: UConn 4 Cuse 3
Elite 8s: Uconn 9 Cuse 4
Sweet 16s: Uconn 13 Cuse 11
Appearances: Cuse 19 Uconn 18
Big East Tournament Championships: Uconn 7 Cuse 3
Big East Reg Season: Uconn 10 Cuse 7

I noticed you totally ignored the middle part of my comments...

(10-18-2013 02:57 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(10-18-2013 02:41 PM)TRest3 Wrote:  

(10-18-2013 12:42 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  I guess you don't read your own UConn fan board...you guys seemed pretty obsessed yourselves.

Apparently Cuse fans are finding out what BC fans already know: the original ACC members could not care less about you guys.

Lashing out like a psycho ex-girlfriend?

Maybe we should play this year out and see?

I can guarantee you that most of the actual real life ACC fans I know on Tobacco Road don't give a flying F&*K about Cuse, Pitt, ND, or BC. They despise the fact that the ACC has expanded past it's natural (what they feel is natural) boundaries. Most of them do like UL though, as KY is somewhat southern and not a bunch of NE Yanks.

(10-18-2013 04:53 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(10-18-2013 02:57 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(10-18-2013 02:41 PM)TRest3 Wrote:  

(10-18-2013 12:42 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  I guess you don't read your own UConn fan board...you guys seemed pretty obsessed yourselves.

Apparently Cuse fans are finding out what BC fans already know: the original ACC members could not care less about you guys.

Lashing out like a psycho ex-girlfriend?

Maybe we should play this year out and see?

I can guarantee you that most of the actual real life ACC fans I know on Tobacco Road don't give a flying F&*K about Cuse, Pitt, ND, or BC. They despise the fact that the ACC has expanded past it's natural (what they feel is natural) boundaries. Most of them do like UL though, as KY is somewhat southern and not a bunch of NE Yanks.

I don't know. I have been to every ACC venue and have had wonderful interactions with ACC fans - especially at Clemson, UVA, and FSU. (Of course, those schools aren't part of Tobacco Road.)

As a BC fan, comparing how we are regarded in the ACC vs. the OBE is like night and day. It's all a matter of perspective, my friend.

(10-18-2013 04:50 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(10-18-2013 03:51 PM)Hank Schrader Wrote:  

(10-18-2013 03:24 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(10-18-2013 03:02 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  It was tolerable until the, "Syracuse is the Big Dog of the Big East" line.

Not here in the middle of the country ... the perception in the central time zone is UConn BB > Syracuse BB since 1990.

Gee, a UConn fan is saying UConn is better than Syracuse over the past couple of decades. Imagine that...

BTW Jim Calhoun was UConn basketball. The Huskies were nothing before he got there, and now he's gone. Where does that put UConn in a couple of years?

As much as I hate to back up a Syracuse fan, you're wrong...

I think you are wrong. Here is why:

Since 1990 (as the poster suggested)

National Champs: Uconn 3 Cuse 1
Final Fours: UConn 4 Cuse 3
Elite 8s: Uconn 9 Cuse 4
Sweet 16s: Uconn 13 Cuse 11
Appearances: Cuse 19 Uconn 18
Big East Tournament Championships: Uconn 7 Cuse 3
Big East Reg Season: Uconn 10 Cuse 7

I noticed you totally ignored the middle part of my comments...

It had nothing to do with the argument. Your using an unknown factor to discuss the past

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(10-18-2013 04:18 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  Sadly for my UConn buddy this is only one part of branding and national perception.

Roflmao, you can't be serious. They have more regular season conference titles, tournament titles, conference tourney appearances, sweet 16s, elite 8s, final 4s, and national titles over the past 25 years. On what basis is Syracuse better than UConn?

Actually you know what? After seeing that list of accomplishments UConn has on Cuse, I can understand why you try and rub salt in their wounds. They are clearly more successful on the court.

(10-18-2013 05:08 PM)Eagle78 Wrote:  

(10-18-2013 04:53 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(10-18-2013 02:57 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(10-18-2013 02:41 PM)TRest3 Wrote:  

(10-18-2013 12:42 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  I guess you don't read your own UConn fan board...you guys seemed pretty obsessed yourselves.

Apparently Cuse fans are finding out what BC fans already know: the original ACC members could not care less about you guys.

Lashing out like a psycho ex-girlfriend?

Maybe we should play this year out and see?

I can guarantee you that most of the actual real life ACC fans I know on Tobacco Road don't give a flying F&*K about Cuse, Pitt, ND, or BC. They despise the fact that the ACC has expanded past it's natural (what they feel is natural) boundaries. Most of them do like UL though, as KY is somewhat southern and not a bunch of NE Yanks.

I don't know. I have been to every ACC venue and have had wonderful interactions with ACC fans - especially at Clemson, UVA, and FSU. (Of course, those schools aren't part of Tobacco Road.)

As a BC fan, comparing how we are regarded in the ACC vs. the OBE is like night and day. It's all a matter of perspective, my friend.

Who is BC's rival in the ACC? Which teams does BC circle on the schedule and say no matter the record, we have to beat them? And who says that about BC?

(10-18-2013 05:30 PM)Hank Schrader Wrote:  

(10-18-2013 04:50 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(10-18-2013 03:51 PM)Hank Schrader Wrote:  

(10-18-2013 03:24 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(10-18-2013 03:02 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  It was tolerable until the, "Syracuse is the Big Dog of the Big East" line.

Not here in the middle of the country ... the perception in the central time zone is UConn BB > Syracuse BB since 1990.

Gee, a UConn fan is saying UConn is better than Syracuse over the past couple of decades. Imagine that...

BTW Jim Calhoun was UConn basketball. The Huskies were nothing before he got there, and now he's gone. Where does that put UConn in a couple of years?

As much as I hate to back up a Syracuse fan, you're wrong...

I think you are wrong. Here is why:

Since 1990 (as the poster suggested)

National Champs: Uconn 3 Cuse 1
Final Fours: UConn 4 Cuse 3
Elite 8s: Uconn 9 Cuse 4
Sweet 16s: Uconn 13 Cuse 11
Appearances: Cuse 19 Uconn 18
Big East Tournament Championships: Uconn 7 Cuse 3
Big East Reg Season: Uconn 10 Cuse 7

I noticed you totally ignored the middle part of my comments...

It had nothing to do with the argument. Your using an unknown factor to discuss the past

Everybody knows that UConn had done absolutely nothing until Jim Calhoun arrived on campus. We also know that Calhoun broke several NCAA recruiting rules while at UConn. The only thing we don't know is how long he breaking the NCAA's rules in his recruiting efforts...

Without that illegal advantage, UConn will find it harder to recruit talent. UConn won't be as desirable a destination without Jim Calhoun, Syracuse, Pitt, WVU, Louisville, and the Big East Catholic schools either. It's easy to see a decline coming...

(10-18-2013 05:53 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(10-18-2013 05:30 PM)Hank Schrader Wrote:  

(10-18-2013 04:50 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(10-18-2013 03:51 PM)Hank Schrader Wrote:  

(10-18-2013 03:24 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  Gee, a UConn fan is saying UConn is better than Syracuse over the past couple of decades. Imagine that...

BTW Jim Calhoun was UConn basketball. The Huskies were nothing before he got there, and now he's gone. Where does that put UConn in a couple of years?

As much as I hate to back up a Syracuse fan, you're wrong...

I think you are wrong. Here is why:

Since 1990 (as the poster suggested)

National Champs: Uconn 3 Cuse 1
Final Fours: UConn 4 Cuse 3
Elite 8s: Uconn 9 Cuse 4
Sweet 16s: Uconn 13 Cuse 11
Appearances: Cuse 19 Uconn 18
Big East Tournament Championships: Uconn 7 Cuse 3
Big East Reg Season: Uconn 10 Cuse 7

I noticed you totally ignored the middle part of my comments...

It had nothing to do with the argument. Your using an unknown factor to discuss the past

Everybody knows that UConn had done absolutely nothing until Jim Calhoun arrived on campus. We also know that Calhoun broke several NCAA recruiting rules while at UConn. The only thing we don't know is how long he breaking the NCAA's rules in his recruiting efforts...

Without that illegal advantage, UConn will find it harder to recruit talent. UConn won't be as desirable a destination without Jim Calhoun, Syracuse, Pitt, WVU, Louisville, and the Big East Catholic schools either. It's easy to see a decline coming...

Calhoun had an illegal recruiting advantage for 25 years? Please expand upon that instead of throwing **** against the wall.

(10-18-2013 02:57 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(10-18-2013 02:41 PM)TRest3 Wrote:  

(10-18-2013 12:42 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  I guess you don't read your own UConn fan board...you guys seemed pretty obsessed yourselves.

Apparently Cuse fans are finding out what BC fans already know: the original ACC members could not care less about you guys.

Lashing out like a psycho ex-girlfriend?

Maybe we should play this year out and see?

You're haunting our boards, i haven't looked at a BE board since April. Who's missing whom?

(10-18-2013 05:53 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(10-18-2013 05:30 PM)Hank Schrader Wrote:  

(10-18-2013 04:50 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(10-18-2013 03:51 PM)Hank Schrader Wrote:  

(10-18-2013 03:24 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  Gee, a UConn fan is saying UConn is better than Syracuse over the past couple of decades. Imagine that...

BTW Jim Calhoun was UConn basketball. The Huskies were nothing before he got there, and now he's gone. Where does that put UConn in a couple of years?

As much as I hate to back up a Syracuse fan, you're wrong...

I think you are wrong. Here is why:

Since 1990 (as the poster suggested)

National Champs: Uconn 3 Cuse 1
Final Fours: UConn 4 Cuse 3
Elite 8s: Uconn 9 Cuse 4
Sweet 16s: Uconn 13 Cuse 11
Appearances: Cuse 19 Uconn 18
Big East Tournament Championships: Uconn 7 Cuse 3
Big East Reg Season: Uconn 10 Cuse 7

I noticed you totally ignored the middle part of my comments...

It had nothing to do with the argument. Your using an unknown factor to discuss the past

Everybody knows that UConn had done absolutely nothing until Jim Calhoun arrived on campus. We also know that Calhoun broke several NCAA recruiting rules while at UConn. The only thing we don't know is how long he breaking the NCAA's rules in his recruiting efforts...

Without that illegal advantage, UConn will find it harder to recruit talent. UConn won't be as desirable a destination without Jim Calhoun, Syracuse, Pitt, WVU, Louisville, and the Big East Catholic schools either. It's easy to see a decline coming...

That is still an assumption, a popular one, but perhaps an inaccurate one. Frankly Uconn had an ok program before Calhoun. Multiple sweet softens and an elite eight prior to his taking the program to a national level to eventually an elite one. the same assumption can be made about syracuse when Jim B calls it quits. They were also riddled with NCAA infractions because of recruiting violations and banned from postseason play.

That being said this was not a discussion of who had a better outlook, obviously syracuse has the advantage due to conference realignment now. That does not imply Uconn has no opportunity to maintain its success though.

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(10-18-2013 06:03 PM)TRest3 Wrote:  

(10-18-2013 05:53 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(10-18-2013 05:30 PM)Hank Schrader Wrote:  

(10-18-2013 04:50 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(10-18-2013 03:51 PM)Hank Schrader Wrote:  I think you are wrong. Here is why:

Since 1990 (as the poster suggested)

National Champs: Uconn 3 Cuse 1
Final Fours: UConn 4 Cuse 3
Elite 8s: Uconn 9 Cuse 4
Sweet 16s: Uconn 13 Cuse 11
Appearances: Cuse 19 Uconn 18
Big East Tournament Championships: Uconn 7 Cuse 3
Big East Reg Season: Uconn 10 Cuse 7

I noticed you totally ignored the middle part of my comments...

It had nothing to do with the argument. Your using an unknown factor to discuss the past

Everybody knows that UConn had done absolutely nothing until Jim Calhoun arrived on campus. We also know that Calhoun broke several NCAA recruiting rules while at UConn. The only thing we don't know is how long he breaking the NCAA's rules in his recruiting efforts...

Without that illegal advantage, UConn will find it harder to recruit talent. UConn won't be as desirable a destination without Jim Calhoun, Syracuse, Pitt, WVU, Louisville, and the Big East Catholic schools either. It's easy to see a decline coming...

Calhoun had an illegal recruiting advantage for 25 years? Please expand upon that instead of throwing **** against the wall.

I didn't say he had an illegal recruiting advantage for 25 years. I said we don't know how long he'd breaking the NCAA's recruiting rules...

But since you brought it up, considering the incompetence of the NCAA's investigative branch, it's not outside the realm of possibility that he was breaking the rules all along. We don't know for sure. But it is a possibility...

This thread is example A of why it is a crying shame the two programs are not going to play anymore. We hate them and they hate us. That is what makes a good rivalry.

I saw it posted that since 1980 the record is SU 37 - UConn 33. Pretty even numbers considering each had a stretch of dominance over the other.

(10-18-2013 05:38 PM)Minutemen429 Wrote:  

(10-18-2013 05:08 PM)Eagle78 Wrote:  

(10-18-2013 04:53 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(10-18-2013 02:57 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(10-18-2013 02:41 PM)TRest3 Wrote:  Apparently Cuse fans are finding out what BC fans already know: the original ACC members could not care less about you guys.

Lashing out like a psycho ex-girlfriend?

Maybe we should play this year out and see?

I can guarantee you that most of the actual real life ACC fans I know on Tobacco Road don't give a flying F&*K about Cuse, Pitt, ND, or BC. They despise the fact that the ACC has expanded past it's natural (what they feel is natural) boundaries. Most of them do like UL though, as KY is somewhat southern and not a bunch of NE Yanks.

I don't know. I have been to every ACC venue and have had wonderful interactions with ACC fans - especially at Clemson, UVA, and FSU. (Of course, those schools aren't part of Tobacco Road.)

As a BC fan, comparing how we are regarded in the ACC vs. the OBE is like night and day. It's all a matter of perspective, my friend.

Who is BC's rival in the ACC? Which teams does BC circle on the schedule and say no matter the record, we have to beat them? And who says that about BC?

....so says the UMass fan whose school just joined the MAC. Talk to me about the natural rivals UMass has in the MAC.

(10-18-2013 06:13 PM)Hank Schrader Wrote:  Multiple sweet softens and an elite eight prior to his taking the program to a national level to eventually an elite one.

Mmmm. Sweet softens

(10-18-2013 06:13 PM)Hank Schrader Wrote:  

(10-18-2013 05:53 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(10-18-2013 05:30 PM)Hank Schrader Wrote:  

(10-18-2013 04:50 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(10-18-2013 03:51 PM)Hank Schrader Wrote:  I think you are wrong. Here is why:

Since 1990 (as the poster suggested)

National Champs: Uconn 3 Cuse 1
Final Fours: UConn 4 Cuse 3
Elite 8s: Uconn 9 Cuse 4
Sweet 16s: Uconn 13 Cuse 11
Appearances: Cuse 19 Uconn 18
Big East Tournament Championships: Uconn 7 Cuse 3
Big East Reg Season: Uconn 10 Cuse 7

I noticed you totally ignored the middle part of my comments...

It had nothing to do with the argument. Your using an unknown factor to discuss the past

Everybody knows that UConn had done absolutely nothing until Jim Calhoun arrived on campus. We also know that Calhoun broke several NCAA recruiting rules while at UConn. The only thing we don't know is how long he breaking the NCAA's rules in his recruiting efforts...

Without that illegal advantage, UConn will find it harder to recruit talent. UConn won't be as desirable a destination without Jim Calhoun, Syracuse, Pitt, WVU, Louisville, and the Big East Catholic schools either. It's easy to see a decline coming...

That is still an assumption, a popular one, but perhaps an inaccurate one. Frankly Uconn had an ok program before Calhoun. Multiple sweet softens and an elite eight prior to his taking the program to a national level to eventually an elite one. the same assumption can be made about syracuse when Jim B calls it quits. They were also riddled with NCAA infractions because of recruiting violations and banned from postseason play.

That being said this was not a discussion of who had a better outlook, obviously syracuse has the advantage due to conference realignment now. That does not imply Uconn has no opportunity to maintain its success though.

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Riddled with NCAA infractions?
A car dealer giving $50 handshakes...wow. That was nearly 25 years ago.

(10-18-2013 08:33 PM)jmc79er Wrote:  

(10-18-2013 05:38 PM)Minutemen429 Wrote:  

(10-18-2013 05:08 PM)Eagle78 Wrote:  

(10-18-2013 04:53 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(10-18-2013 02:57 PM)TexanMark Wrote:   Lashing out like a psycho ex-girlfriend?

Maybe we should play this year out and see?

I can guarantee you that most of the actual real life ACC fans I know on Tobacco Road don't give a flying F&*K about Cuse, Pitt, ND, or BC. They despise the fact that the ACC has expanded past it's natural (what they feel is natural) boundaries. Most of them do like UL though, as KY is somewhat southern and not a bunch of NE Yanks.

I don't know. I have been to every ACC venue and have had wonderful interactions with ACC fans - especially at Clemson, UVA, and FSU. (Of course, those schools aren't part of Tobacco Road.)

As a BC fan, comparing how we are regarded in the ACC vs. the OBE is like night and day. It's all a matter of perspective, my friend.

Who is BC's rival in the ACC? Which teams does BC circle on the schedule and say no matter the record, we have to beat them? And who says that about BC?

....so says the UMass fan whose school just joined the MAC. Talk to me about the natural rivals UMass has in the MAC.

They joined the MAC for football only and that was the only way to elevate their program. UMass basketball is still in the A10. FYI