I guess the Title could have been.............

Former Boston College Offensive Coordinator calls fans in Superdome "homeless people" on radio show

or

Former Mississippi State Quarterbacks Coach calls fans in Superdome "homeless people" on radio show

or

Former Oklahoma State Tight Ends Coach calls fans in Superdome "homeless people" on radio show

Let all those schools take the rap.

How about: Former college coach calls "excitement representatives" of Tulane University "people without a place to dwell".

It was an insensitive thing to say, but he has always been a colorful character and says whats on his mind.

I think that it would be harder for the Tulane players to play in an empty stadium all the time? Hats off to the Wave to solid season so far!

Bring in the bulldozers. Ban everyone. Start over.

(10-15-2013 05:32 PM)ECUPirated Wrote:  I guess the Title could have been.............

Former Boston College Offensive Coordinator calls fans in Superdome "homeless people" on radio show

or

Former Mississippi State Quarterbacks Coach calls fans in Superdome "homeless people" on radio show

or

Former Oklahoma State Tight Ends Coach calls fans in Superdome "homeless people" on radio show

Let all those schools take the rap.

Or

Former NFL Europe HC ............

I'm not really interested in continuing whatever ECU-Tulane pissing match still might exist, if there even is one.

But forgetting the guy's language, which strikes me as more lame than offensive, I wanted to address the substance: the idea that ECU is at a huge disadvantage because we put 15k or less people into a sterile 75k dome.

It's a silly argument. It's beyond silly, actually. It should be embarrassing to all the ECU (and other) fans that make it. Set aside the fact that it turns everything we know about home field advantage on its head (I.e., that it is loud crowds that make it tough to play on the road); set aside the ****ing obvious point that Tulane is playing at HOME in a depressing, dispiriting atmosphere which you would think would impact morale even worse; are you too thick to understand that teams have been coming into the same sterile dome and wasting out pansy @sses for the past ten g'dam years? It certainly never bothered UH. Or Louisville. Or UCF. Or Memphis. Or any other program that has pasted us there in recent years.

I mean, were we just wasting this huge advantage of sterility all these years? How could we have lost with this massive advantage lulling teams to sleep!?!

It's a dumb argument, and I've seen a lot of ECU fans make it. Game atmosphere and attendance are meaningful, but it is not the only definition of a program. I think ECU fans put a bit too much stock in it. Football teams win games, crowds do not. And, lack of crowds certainly do not.

(10-16-2013 03:47 AM)OUGwave Wrote:  I'm not really interested in continuing whatever ECU-Tulane pissing match still might exist, if there even is one.

But forgetting the guy's language, which strikes me as more lame than offensive, I wanted to address the substance: the idea that ECU is at a huge disadvantage because we put 15k or less people into a sterile 75k dome.

It's a silly argument. It's beyond silly, actually. It should be embarrassing to all the ECU (and other) fans that make it. Set aside the fact that it turns everything we know about home field advantage on its head (I.e., that it is loud crowds that make it tough to play on the road); set aside the ****ing obvious point that Tulane is playing at HOME in a depressing, dispiriting atmosphere which you would think would impact morale even worse; are you too thick to understand that teams have been coming into the same sterile dome and wasting out pansy @sses for the past ten g'dam years? It certainly never bothered UH. Or Louisville. Or UCF. Or Memphis. Or any other program that has pasted us there in recent years.

I mean, were we just wasting this huge advantage of sterility all these years? How could we have lost with this massive advantage lulling teams to sleep!?!

It's a dumb argument, and I've seen a lot of ECU fans make it. Game atmosphere and attendance are meaningful, but it is not the only definition of a program. I think ECU fans put a bit too much stock in it. Football teams win games, crowds do not. And, lack of crowds certainly do not.

You probably read that argument here because ECU fans have been hearing our coaches, players and former players make that argument for years. Just last week prior to the Tulane game, former ECU player Kevin Monroe wrote about the difficult task of teenagers and 20 somethings getting excited in that type environment and wrote about how his 99 ECU team went into South Carolina in front of 70k fans and beat the Gamecocks by two touchdowns and turned around and went to UAB playing in front of 10k and lost because the players just never got excited.
I know it is a lame excuse and the coaches and players have to get up for every game no matter how bad the team or how lousy the attendance. I have been to a couple of these type games, most notably UAB and it is totally different environment to play in front of small quiet crowds. It basically turns the game into a scrimmage or spring game atmosphere and the players have to execute.

Good news is if any Tulane fans are offended by what Logan said he is banned from the ECU campus

He works for a local ECU sports talk station now (WRAL?), is that right? I don't think it's fair to label him a former ECU head coach but it is fair to call him out for being a member of ECU's local media contingent. If we had a beat writer or local radio reporter say something insulting about a conference foe, I have no problems with people getting on Rice for that statement.

What am I saying - we don't have any beat writers or local radio/TV guys who cover Rice athletics.

(10-16-2013 03:47 AM)OUGwave Wrote:  It's a silly argument. It's beyond silly, actually. It should be embarrassing to all the ECU (and other) fans that make it.

As ShoreBuc said, it's coming from coaches and players and repeated by fans.

Obviously, it's not 100% true, because we actually have a pretty good record there against Tulane, and conversely, last year we lost the bowl game in New Orleans when there were plenty of fans in the house.

That said, I find it quite believable that it can be hard for a player to get pumped up and play in a quiet atmosphere when they are used to playing in a rowdy one.

So, I'd say it's 75% an excuse from players embarrassed because they lost to a supposedly inferior opponent and 25% truth, lol.

Whatever helps yall sleep at night.

(10-16-2013 01:15 AM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  

(10-15-2013 05:32 PM)ECUPirated Wrote:  I guess the Title could have been.............

Former Boston College Offensive Coordinator calls fans in Superdome "homeless people" on radio show

or

Former Mississippi State Quarterbacks Coach calls fans in Superdome "homeless people" on radio show

or

Former Oklahoma State Tight Ends Coach calls fans in Superdome "homeless people" on radio show

Let all those schools take the rap.

Or

Former NFL Europe HC ............

He wasn't a head coach over there. He was OC and QB coach.

(10-16-2013 03:47 AM)OUGwave Wrote:  I'm not really interested in continuing whatever ECU-Tulane pissing match still might exist, if there even is one.

But forgetting the guy's language, which strikes me as more lame than offensive, I wanted to address the substance: the idea that ECU is at a huge disadvantage because we put 15k or less people into a sterile 75k dome.

It's a silly argument. It's beyond silly, actually. It should be embarrassing to all the ECU (and other) fans that make it. Set aside the fact that it turns everything we know about home field advantage on its head (I.e., that it is loud crowds that make it tough to play on the road); set aside the ****ing obvious point that Tulane is playing at HOME in a depressing, dispiriting atmosphere which you would think would impact morale even worse; are you too thick to understand that teams have been coming into the same sterile dome and wasting out pansy @sses for the past ten g'dam years? It certainly never bothered UH. Or Louisville. Or UCF. Or Memphis. Or any other program that has pasted us there in recent years.

I mean, were we just wasting this huge advantage of sterility all these years? How could we have lost with this massive advantage lulling teams to sleep!?!

It's a dumb argument, and I've seen a lot of ECU fans make it. Game atmosphere and attendance are meaningful, but it is not the only definition of a program. I think ECU fans put a bit too much stock in it. Football teams win games, crowds do not. And, lack of crowds certainly do not.

The former coach in question is the one who invented that lame excuse for losing those type games over his tenure because he didn't properly prepare his team. Many of our fans have latched onto that. If anything it should be an advantage to visiting teams, IMO.

(10-16-2013 06:27 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  He works for a local ECU sports talk station now (WRAL?), is that right? I don't think it's fair to label him a former ECU head coach but it is fair to call him out for being a member of ECU's local media contingent. If we had a beat writer or local radio reporter say something insulting about a conference foe, I have no problems with people getting on Rice for that statement.

What am I saying - we don't have any beat writers or local radio/TV guys who cover Rice athletics.

It's absurd to hold anyone 'responsible' for the comments except the person who issued them. And quite frankly the comments themselves weren't really offensive except to someone looking for something to get offended about. Pretty standard in this country these days.

(10-16-2013 06:27 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  He works for a local ECU sports talk station now (WRAL?), is that right? I don't think it's fair to label him a former ECU head coach but it is fair to call him out for being a member of ECU's local media contingent. If we had a beat writer or local radio reporter say something insulting about a conference foe, I have no problems with people getting on Rice for that statement.

What am I saying - we don't have any beat writers or local radio/TV guys who cover Rice athletics.

No he doesn't. Steve Logan has no official connection with ECU. He is not part of ECU's local media contingent. He isn't even local. He lives in Raleigh not Greenville and we were told ad nauseum by many on this site that Raleigh isn't in our media area. He has his own radio show there where he pontificates on all things football based on his background as a college and pro football coach. He talks about all the oher college teams in NC, not just ECU, as well as teams out of state as well. He also does bits for WRAL TV. So please understand that he is not in our corner for us. He just comments on the passing landscape of football.

(10-16-2013 06:27 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  He works for a local ECU sports talk station now (WRAL?), is that right? I don't think it's fair to label him a former ECU head coach but it is fair to call him out for being a member of ECU's local media contingent. If we had a beat writer or local radio reporter say something insulting about a conference foe, I have no problems with people getting on Rice for that statement.

What am I saying - we don't have any beat writers or local radio/TV guys who cover Rice athletics.

No WRAL and 99.9 are Raleigh, not Greenville. And ECU centered in the least, ACC centered.

(10-15-2013 08:24 AM)SVHerd Wrote:  He must have been talking with SJ. Classy.

About as classy as your comment.

(10-16-2013 08:22 AM)ultraviolet Wrote:  

(10-16-2013 03:47 AM)OUGwave Wrote:  I'm not really interested in continuing whatever ECU-Tulane pissing match still might exist, if there even is one.

But forgetting the guy's language, which strikes me as more lame than offensive, I wanted to address the substance: the idea that ECU is at a huge disadvantage because we put 15k or less people into a sterile 75k dome.

It's a silly argument. It's beyond silly, actually. It should be embarrassing to all the ECU (and other) fans that make it. Set aside the fact that it turns everything we know about home field advantage on its head (I.e., that it is loud crowds that make it tough to play on the road); set aside the ****ing obvious point that Tulane is playing at HOME in a depressing, dispiriting atmosphere which you would think would impact morale even worse; are you too thick to understand that teams have been coming into the same sterile dome and wasting out pansy @sses for the past ten g'dam years? It certainly never bothered UH. Or Louisville. Or UCF. Or Memphis. Or any other program that has pasted us there in recent years.

I mean, were we just wasting this huge advantage of sterility all these years? How could we have lost with this massive advantage lulling teams to sleep!?!

It's a dumb argument, and I've seen a lot of ECU fans make it. Game atmosphere and attendance are meaningful, but it is not the only definition of a program. I think ECU fans put a bit too much stock in it. Football teams win games, crowds do not. And, lack of crowds certainly do not.

The former coach in question is the one who invented that lame excuse for losing those type games over his tenure because he didn't properly prepare his team. Many of our fans have latched onto that. If anything it should be an advantage to visiting teams, IMO.

Exactly. And believe me, it's way more of a lack of advantage for us as the home team than it is some kind of advantage. Totally makes sense that a coach who loses would use it as an excuse for losing a road game against a bad team. Toledo had tons of excuses like that, it was like he was getting them printed on fortune cookies, he never ran out.

(10-15-2013 05:32 PM)ECUPirated Wrote:  I guess the Title could have been.............

Former Boston College Offensive Coordinator calls fans in Superdome "homeless people" on radio show

or

Former Mississippi State Quarterbacks Coach calls fans in Superdome "homeless people" on radio show

or

Former Oklahoma State Tight Ends Coach calls fans in Superdome "homeless people" on radio show

Let all those schools take the rap.

Or Tulsa alumnus, but yeah.

(10-16-2013 01:10 PM)PGPirate Wrote:  

(10-15-2013 05:32 PM)ECUPirated Wrote:  I guess the Title could have been.............

Former Boston College Offensive Coordinator calls fans in Superdome "homeless people" on radio show

or

Former Mississippi State Quarterbacks Coach calls fans in Superdome "homeless people" on radio show

or

Former Oklahoma State Tight Ends Coach calls fans in Superdome "homeless people" on radio show

Let all those schools take the rap.

Or Tulsa alumnus, but yeah.

Please move to smack no factual information and my intelligence level every time I read this thread

steve logan owes bondsjohns an apology