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(10-13-2013 09:04 AM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  Reynolds played a little bit as Mickey scolded Parrish for lining up incorrectly.
CB has not been solved 7 games into the season...

Where'd he line up incorrectly, 40 yards off the receiver? I share most of the initial observations in the thread. 3rd down is driving me crazy as well. I also agree that Birdsong doesn't always need to throw the ball 100mph. Sometimes some touch is needed. The corner situation is a complete mess. I wonder if we have anyone who we could pull a redshirt off of because with the current situation, there's just no way we can compete against good teams. The other thing I'll say is that all season I've been underwhelmed by the OL. I thought they'd be really good but it seems like every time DQ gets the ball he's hit in the backfield.
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(10-13-2013 11:07 AM)JMU_Rocks! Wrote:  Really Good - for those at the game, we got to see Dukester receive a spirit Award for starting the streamers tradition. Congrats Dukester - well deserved.

Yes, congrats to Dukester! That was nice recognition for a great JMU fan. Unfortunately, by the second half yesterday, throwing streamers was more like throwing giant spitballs.
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(10-13-2013 11:04 AM)JMU_Rocks! Wrote:  
(10-13-2013 09:10 AM)PGJMU Wrote:  does W&M stream their games? any way of watching our W&M game?

It is a fun trip and Homecoming for W&M. Best way to see the Dukes is always in person - anyone else going?

We should expect a good game from the Tribe.

I'll be there + 3. Should be a good game.
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(10-13-2013 11:04 AM)JMU_Rocks! Wrote:  
(10-13-2013 09:10 AM)PGJMU Wrote:  does W&M stream their games? any way of watching our W&M game?

It is a fun trip and Homecoming for W&M. Best way to see the Dukes is always in person - anyone else going?

We should expect a good game from the Tribe.

I'll be there. Been planning this tailgate for a couple months now. It's not about the food or drink spread, but more about the "decor".
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(10-13-2013 11:11 AM)DoubleDDuke Wrote:  
(10-13-2013 09:04 AM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  Reynolds played a little bit as Mickey scolded Parrish for lining up incorrectly.
CB has not been solved 7 games into the season...

The corner situation is a complete mess. I wonder if we have anyone who we could pull a redshirt off of because with the current situation, there's just no way we can compete against good teams.

Except we have competed against good teams already.
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Hyper ... I think I recall a teepee planned, correct? Where will you be?
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Somewhere in the cash lot by W&M Hall & the old frat houses.
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They move Deandre Smith to CB for a bit in this game. We've now got so much WR depth that we've found other options.
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(10-13-2013 12:23 PM)Dukie95 Wrote:  They move Deandre Smith to CB for a bit in this game. We've now got so much WR depth that we've found other options.

I agree we now have nice depth at WR. Funny thing is, Mickey has said a couple of times recently on his coaches show that we need to get D'Andre the ball more.

If D'Andre can be quickly brought to speed and proves to be an improvement to our CB rotation, I'm all for it. WR is one area we have lots of options. And like the DNR said, he can play some plays on offense...aka Champ Bailey.

Lastly, maybe this demotion will light a fire under Taylor Reynolds. I don't think the kid is lazy. It could be inexperience, lack of talent or aptitude for the position or maybe not coachable. Whatever the reason, benchings sometimes produce good results. I hope so.
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the problem with Reynolds was that he got beat long. i could be wrong, but i dont remember D'andre getting beat long.

that said, D'Andre did not look that comfortable at DB. even the way he lined up, looked un-natural to me.
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(10-13-2013 12:39 PM)olddawg Wrote:  
(10-13-2013 12:23 PM)Dukie95 Wrote:  They move Deandre Smith to CB for a bit in this game. We've now got so much WR depth that we've found other options.

I agree we now have nice depth at WR. Funny thing is, Mickey has said a couple of times recently on his coaches show that we need to get D'Andre the ball more.

If D'Andre can be quickly brought to speed and proves to be an improvement to our CB rotation, I'm all for it. WR is one area we have lots of options. And like the DNR said, he can play some plays on offense...aka Champ Bailey.

Lastly, maybe this demotion will light a fire under Taylor Reynolds. I don't think the kid is lazy. It could be inexperience, lack of talent or aptitude for the position or maybe not coachable. Whatever the reason, benchings sometimes produce good results. I hope so.
He's a freshman so don't think one can claim he's not coachable yet. Looks like he has a lot of talent. I think it's just inexperience and he'll be fine in the long run.

Like the move of DeAndre Smith to CB too.
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I listened to MM after the game. He pinned all the blame on our forth quarter play on the team. I totally disagree. Once we got that 38th point, did we ever pass again? Maybe we did but I don't remember it. Players know what you are doing when you go all conservative in your play calling. Their aggressive behavior goes away. What get's you to 38 should then take you to 45, MM has to have that killer attitude or the players will continue to do what they have been doing.

Sorry to jump on MM, but if those who are always defending him, cannot understand that he is the team leader, and that when he quits leading and stops showing confidence in the guys, then they will always lay down. For example, MB threw that early interception. The next time out our aggressive play calling didn't stop, Birdsong responded well. I'm only using that as an example so don't think this is about MB, the whole team effort was reduced in that forth quarter due to our conservative plays, which says, "if we don't screw up, this game is over."
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(10-13-2013 12:39 PM)olddawg Wrote:  
(10-13-2013 12:23 PM)Dukie95 Wrote:  They move Deandre Smith to CB for a bit in this game. We've now got so much WR depth that we've found other options.

I agree we now have nice depth at WR. Funny thing is, Mickey has said a couple of times recently on his coaches show that we need to get D'Andre the ball more.

If D'Andre can be quickly brought to speed and proves to be an improvement to our CB rotation, I'm all for it. WR is one area we have lots of options. And like the DNR said, he can play some plays on offense...aka Champ Bailey.

Lastly, maybe this demotion will light a fire under Taylor Reynolds. I don't think the kid is lazy. It could be inexperience, lack of talent or aptitude for the position or maybe not coachable. Whatever the reason, benchings sometimes produce good results. I hope so.

The thing that gets me about Reynolds is that he was so hyped up in the spring and summer after he moved there. I remember reading his name a lot during camps with Stoss et al praising his good play there. If he gets it all worked out, he'll be a force there with his size.
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(10-13-2013 01:45 PM)Dukes86 Wrote:  The thing that gets me about Reynolds is that he was so hyped up in the spring and summer after he moved there. I remember reading his name a lot during camps with Stoss et al praising his good play there. If he gets it all worked out, he'll be a force there with his size.

I agree.

His poor play (particularly on those long passes) got him benched, but let's not forget he also has 2 INTs, including returning one for a TD through the first 4 games. There is no question Taylor has tremendous physical talent, and he's only a RFR.
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(10-13-2013 01:32 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  I listened to MM after the game. He pinned all the blame on our forth quarter play on the team. I totally disagree. Once we got that 38th point, did we ever pass again? Maybe we did but I don't remember it. Players know what you are doing when you go all conservative in your play calling. Their aggressive behavior goes away. What get's you to 38 should then take you to 45, MM has to have that killer attitude or the players will continue to do what they have been doing.

You are off base on this one. Birdsong threw an incomplete pass and got sacked trying to throw again on the first drive that JMU got the ball back after scoring 38.
Both were deep in JMU's territory and it can be argued that they had no business throwing the ball in that situation. The clock is your friend
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(10-13-2013 02:23 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  
(10-13-2013 01:32 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  I listened to MM after the game. He pinned all the blame on our forth quarter play on the team. I totally disagree. Once we got that 38th point, did we ever pass again? Maybe we did but I don't remember it. Players know what you are doing when you go all conservative in your play calling. Their aggressive behavior goes away. What get's you to 38 should then take you to 45, MM has to have that killer attitude or the players will continue to do what they have been doing.

You are off base on this one. Birdsong threw an incomplete pass and got sacked trying to throw again on the first drive that JMU got the ball back after scoring 38.
Both were deep in JMU's territory and it can be argued that they had no business throwing the ball in that situation. The clock is your friend


After ur made it 38-28, here was our possession:

1st and 10 - Scott rush for loss of 3
2nd and 13 - Scott rush for 4
3rd and 9 - Scott rush for 1
4th and 8 - punt

There was 7 minutes left in the game. It was faaaaar from over.
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Perhaps the Dukes should have thrown an incomplete pass like the previous possession.

This would be a good time to celebrate the win. nitpicking over style points when we should be stopping to smell the roses.
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(10-13-2013 02:01 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  
(10-13-2013 01:45 PM)Dukes86 Wrote:  The thing that gets me about Reynolds is that he was so hyped up in the spring and summer after he moved there. I remember reading his name a lot during camps with Stoss et al praising his good play there. If he gets it all worked out, he'll be a force there with his size.

I agree.

His poor play (particularly on those long passes) got him benched, but let's not forget he also has 2 INTs, including returning one for a TD through the first 4 games. There is no question Taylor has tremendous physical talent, and he's only a RFR.
I think something to consider is that there is a big difference in performing well in practice and playing in a game.By now game films are out and a defensive coordinator has an idea on how to attack Reynolds.
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I don't know if they've given up on Reynolds (I hope not) but I thought it was a little unfair to bench him like that. It's not like the guys out there were able to cover anyone. He gave up some long balls but I don't think it was a physical thing. He's just learning to play the position at the college level. I still have high hopes for him. Maybe they just saw the talent level of Richmond's receivers and didn't want him to give up big plays further eroding his confidence. For his sake I hope he keeps his head up and works hard. He's got all the physical talent to be really good. He just needs to get a feel for it (e.g. when to try to jump a route and when to just give them the 12 yard throw when you're off). I just can't see going forward with what we had out there yesterday. And, I don't say that in a disrespectful way to those guys. One is a freshman and Smith hasn't played corner since HS. That's a tough spot for them.
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(10-13-2013 02:23 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  
(10-13-2013 01:32 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  I listened to MM after the game. He pinned all the blame on our forth quarter play on the team. I totally disagree. Once we got that 38th point, did we ever pass again? Maybe we did but I don't remember it. Players know what you are doing when you go all conservative in your play calling. Their aggressive behavior goes away. What get's you to 38 should then take you to 45, MM has to have that killer attitude or the players will continue to do what they have been doing.

You are off base on this one. Birdsong threw an incomplete pass and got sacked trying to throw again on the first drive that JMU got the ball back after scoring 38.
Both were deep in JMU's territory and it can be argued that they had no business throwing the ball in that situation. The clock is your friend

Yeah, at that point in the game I would have been just fine with three straight runs up the gut. At worst we take 2+ minutes off the clock and punt. Although I think that was the one he shanked.
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