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I have to think in the Ball State and Toledo games they'll come out guns blazing with Lynch.
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(10-15-2013 01:32 PM)7 Wrote:  I've counted Lynch sliding a grand total of 1 time this season. He's fine. Spread MAC teams out, let Lynch run or throw. That's how they won the MAC last year.

If they make a BCS bowl and you want to run tight formations that worked against Iowa and Purdue, go for it. Don't change what worked last year, though.

Go back and watch the EIU game too. The majority of Lynch's runs came from spread formations. I really don't understand why we're playing in so many big sets this year.

Can this years WRs block? That might be the hang up. Wish I could say I had an answer.
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(10-16-2013 01:27 AM)The Frisky Biscuit Wrote:  
(10-15-2013 01:32 PM)7 Wrote:  I've counted Lynch sliding a grand total of 1 time this season. He's fine. Spread MAC teams out, let Lynch run or throw. That's how they won the MAC last year.

If they make a BCS bowl and you want to run tight formations that worked against Iowa and Purdue, go for it. Don't change what worked last year, though.

Go back and watch the EIU game too. The majority of Lynch's runs came from spread formations. I really don't understand why we're playing in so many big sets this year.

Can this years WRs block? That might be the hang up. Wish I could say I had an answer.

I think Da'Ron Brown is a good run blocker. Even the last few years with better WRs he would always be out there on running plays. I know for sure Turner was getting manhandled against Akron trying to block. The rest of the guys I'm not sure about.
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(10-16-2013 01:27 AM)The Frisky Biscuit Wrote:  
(10-15-2013 01:32 PM)7 Wrote:  I've counted Lynch sliding a grand total of 1 time this season. He's fine. Spread MAC teams out, let Lynch run or throw. That's how they won the MAC last year.

If they make a BCS bowl and you want to run tight formations that worked against Iowa and Purdue, go for it. Don't change what worked last year, though.

Go back and watch the EIU game too. The majority of Lynch's runs came from spread formations. I really don't understand why we're playing in so many big sets this year.

Can this years WRs block? That might be the hang up. Wish I could say I had an answer.
It could have something to do with it. It also could have something to do with no Akeem. I'm at work right now and can't look it up, but a lot of time (and by a lot I mean almost all of the time) when Lynch is running out of the spread, Daniels was his lead blocker. Off the top of my head, his long run against Ball State Akeem was his lead blocker. Maybe they just aren't confident in the current groups of running backs ability to block.

I'm not sure how much I buy that though. It's one thing to be able to recognize a free rusher in pass protection, but Cam is a 250 lbs former linebacker and he plays on the kickoff return team. He should be able to get to the 2nd level and put a hat on a LBer.
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(10-16-2013 08:50 AM)7 Wrote:  
(10-16-2013 01:27 AM)The Frisky Biscuit Wrote:  
(10-15-2013 01:32 PM)7 Wrote:  I've counted Lynch sliding a grand total of 1 time this season. He's fine. Spread MAC teams out, let Lynch run or throw. That's how they won the MAC last year.

If they make a BCS bowl and you want to run tight formations that worked against Iowa and Purdue, go for it. Don't change what worked last year, though.

Go back and watch the EIU game too. The majority of Lynch's runs came from spread formations. I really don't understand why we're playing in so many big sets this year.

Can this years WRs block? That might be the hang up. Wish I could say I had an answer.
It could have something to do with it. It also could have something to do with no Akeem. I'm at work right now and can't look it up, but a lot of time (and by a lot I mean almost all of the time) when Lynch is running out of the spread, Daniels was his lead blocker. Off the top of my head, his long run against Ball State Akeem was his lead blocker. Maybe they just aren't confident in the current groups of running backs ability to block.

I'm not sure how much I buy that though. It's one thing to be able to recognize a free rusher in pass protection, but Cam is a 250 lbs former linebacker and he plays on the kickoff return team. He should be able to get to the 2nd level and put a hat on a LBer.

yep. if Cam can run over the linebackers with the ball, he can run over them without it.
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(10-16-2013 08:45 AM)timxlydon Wrote:  
(10-16-2013 01:27 AM)The Frisky Biscuit Wrote:  
(10-15-2013 01:32 PM)7 Wrote:  I've counted Lynch sliding a grand total of 1 time this season. He's fine. Spread MAC teams out, let Lynch run or throw. That's how they won the MAC last year.

If they make a BCS bowl and you want to run tight formations that worked against Iowa and Purdue, go for it. Don't change what worked last year, though.

Go back and watch the EIU game too. The majority of Lynch's runs came from spread formations. I really don't understand why we're playing in so many big sets this year.

Can this years WRs block? That might be the hang up. Wish I could say I had an answer.

I think Da'Ron Brown is a good run blocker. Even the last few years with better WRs he would always be out there on running plays. I know for sure Turner was getting manhandled against Akron trying to block. The rest of the guys I'm not sure about.

Akron had 8 men in the box for the most part and was committed to stopping the run. Couple that with a pretty good pair of DEs, they had some success. Jordan did have some pressure and the passing game was a little off. The bottom line is that winning breads winning and teams do learn how to win. Can't always play your A game in a 12 game season. It may be a little bit of a mid season wakeup call which is good going into CMU who beat Ohio last week.
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(10-16-2013 09:53 AM)GCD70 Wrote:  
(10-16-2013 08:45 AM)timxlydon Wrote:  
(10-16-2013 01:27 AM)The Frisky Biscuit Wrote:  
(10-15-2013 01:32 PM)7 Wrote:  I've counted Lynch sliding a grand total of 1 time this season. He's fine. Spread MAC teams out, let Lynch run or throw. That's how they won the MAC last year.

If they make a BCS bowl and you want to run tight formations that worked against Iowa and Purdue, go for it. Don't change what worked last year, though.

Go back and watch the EIU game too. The majority of Lynch's runs came from spread formations. I really don't understand why we're playing in so many big sets this year.

Can this years WRs block? That might be the hang up. Wish I could say I had an answer.

I think Da'Ron Brown is a good run blocker. Even the last few years with better WRs he would always be out there on running plays. I know for sure Turner was getting manhandled against Akron trying to block. The rest of the guys I'm not sure about.

Akron had 8 men in the box for the most part and was committed to stopping the run. Couple that with a pretty good pair of DEs, they had some success. Jordan did have some pressure and the passing game was a little off. The bottom line is that winning breads winning and teams do learn how to win. Can't always play your A game in a 12 game season. It may be a little bit of a mid season wakeup call which is good going into CMU who beat Ohio last week.

Funny, to me it didn't seem like they were doing that at all. Most of the time I saw both safeties back and only 7 in the box.
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(10-16-2013 11:13 AM)BarsemaBone2 Wrote:  
(10-16-2013 09:53 AM)GCD70 Wrote:  
(10-16-2013 08:45 AM)timxlydon Wrote:  
(10-16-2013 01:27 AM)The Frisky Biscuit Wrote:  
(10-15-2013 01:32 PM)7 Wrote:  I've counted Lynch sliding a grand total of 1 time this season. He's fine. Spread MAC teams out, let Lynch run or throw. That's how they won the MAC last year.

If they make a BCS bowl and you want to run tight formations that worked against Iowa and Purdue, go for it. Don't change what worked last year, though.

Go back and watch the EIU game too. The majority of Lynch's runs came from spread formations. I really don't understand why we're playing in so many big sets this year.

Can this years WRs block? That might be the hang up. Wish I could say I had an answer.

I think Da'Ron Brown is a good run blocker. Even the last few years with better WRs he would always be out there on running plays. I know for sure Turner was getting manhandled against Akron trying to block. The rest of the guys I'm not sure about.

Akron had 8 men in the box for the most part and was committed to stopping the run. Couple that with a pretty good pair of DEs, they had some success. Jordan did have some pressure and the passing game was a little off. The bottom line is that winning breads winning and teams do learn how to win. Can't always play your A game in a 12 game season. It may be a little bit of a mid season wakeup call which is good going into CMU who beat Ohio last week.

Funny, to me it didn't seem like they were doing that at all. Most of the time I saw both safeties back and only 7 in the box.

funny, thats what one of our coaches told me at Barsema hall after the game. Not saying they played with 8 every play but it was signifcant.
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(10-16-2013 11:36 AM)GCD70 Wrote:  
(10-16-2013 11:13 AM)BarsemaBone2 Wrote:  
(10-16-2013 09:53 AM)GCD70 Wrote:  
(10-16-2013 08:45 AM)timxlydon Wrote:  
(10-16-2013 01:27 AM)The Frisky Biscuit Wrote:  Can this years WRs block? That might be the hang up. Wish I could say I had an answer.

I think Da'Ron Brown is a good run blocker. Even the last few years with better WRs he would always be out there on running plays. I know for sure Turner was getting manhandled against Akron trying to block. The rest of the guys I'm not sure about.

Akron had 8 men in the box for the most part and was committed to stopping the run. Couple that with a pretty good pair of DEs, they had some success. Jordan did have some pressure and the passing game was a little off. The bottom line is that winning breads winning and teams do learn how to win. Can't always play your A game in a 12 game season. It may be a little bit of a mid season wakeup call which is good going into CMU who beat Ohio last week.

Funny, to me it didn't seem like they were doing that at all. Most of the time I saw both safeties back and only 7 in the box.

funny, thats what one of our coaches told me at Barsema hall after the game. Not saying they played with 8 every play but it was signifcant.

It struck me during the game how shallow their Safeties/DBs were playing too. It seemed like were less than 8 yards off the line almost every play.
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(10-16-2013 11:13 AM)BarsemaBone2 Wrote:  
(10-16-2013 09:53 AM)GCD70 Wrote:  
(10-16-2013 08:45 AM)timxlydon Wrote:  
(10-16-2013 01:27 AM)The Frisky Biscuit Wrote:  
(10-15-2013 01:32 PM)7 Wrote:  I've counted Lynch sliding a grand total of 1 time this season. He's fine. Spread MAC teams out, let Lynch run or throw. That's how they won the MAC last year.

If they make a BCS bowl and you want to run tight formations that worked against Iowa and Purdue, go for it. Don't change what worked last year, though.

Go back and watch the EIU game too. The majority of Lynch's runs came from spread formations. I really don't understand why we're playing in so many big sets this year.

Can this years WRs block? That might be the hang up. Wish I could say I had an answer.

I think Da'Ron Brown is a good run blocker. Even the last few years with better WRs he would always be out there on running plays. I know for sure Turner was getting manhandled against Akron trying to block. The rest of the guys I'm not sure about.

Akron had 8 men in the box for the most part and was committed to stopping the run. Couple that with a pretty good pair of DEs, they had some success. Jordan did have some pressure and the passing game was a little off. The bottom line is that winning breads winning and teams do learn how to win. Can't always play your A game in a 12 game season. It may be a little bit of a mid season wakeup call which is good going into CMU who beat Ohio last week.

Funny, to me it didn't seem like they were doing that at all. Most of the time I saw both safeties back and only 7 in the box.

They had 8 and sometimes 9 line right near the line all night. i was begging for more shots down the field.
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Can't take shots when you can't block long enough for WRs to get deep.
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(10-16-2013 09:10 AM)klake87 Wrote:  
(10-16-2013 08:50 AM)7 Wrote:  
(10-16-2013 01:27 AM)The Frisky Biscuit Wrote:  
(10-15-2013 01:32 PM)7 Wrote:  I've counted Lynch sliding a grand total of 1 time this season. He's fine. Spread MAC teams out, let Lynch run or throw. That's how they won the MAC last year.

If they make a BCS bowl and you want to run tight formations that worked against Iowa and Purdue, go for it. Don't change what worked last year, though.

Go back and watch the EIU game too. The majority of Lynch's runs came from spread formations. I really don't understand why we're playing in so many big sets this year.

Can this years WRs block? That might be the hang up. Wish I could say I had an answer.
It could have something to do with it. It also could have something to do with no Akeem. I'm at work right now and can't look it up, but a lot of time (and by a lot I mean almost all of the time) when Lynch is running out of the spread, Daniels was his lead blocker. Off the top of my head, his long run against Ball State Akeem was his lead blocker. Maybe they just aren't confident in the current groups of running backs ability to block.

I'm not sure how much I buy that though. It's one thing to be able to recognize a free rusher in pass protection, but Cam is a 250 lbs former linebacker and he plays on the kickoff return team. He should be able to get to the 2nd level and put a hat on a LBer.

yep. if Cam can run over the linebackers with the ball, he can run over them without it.

Having the ability to do it isn't the same as actually doing it.
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Cam might be big enough but you have to be quick enough too so they don't just run around you. I didn't notice if that happened much in the actual game.
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or they start out as blazing saddles and stink up the first half...03-lmfao


(10-15-2013 03:05 PM)7 Wrote:  I have to think in the Ball State and Toledo games they'll come out guns blazing with Lynch.
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