No more 11 am games

(10-13-2013 05:33 PM)wylioats Wrote:  In your initial post you said Houston embarrassed the Tigers, to which I took to task and said was a crock. Now, in this post you're saying our turnovers are the embarrassement. Dude, make up your mind.

We beat ourselves but Houston exposed our weaknesses during the game. Coach Levine would be remiss if he hadn't scouted Houston's opponent. Their coach simply exploited our weaknesses to his advantage. Or would you prefer to deny the Tigers' propensity to fumble the ball, drop passes and find themselves backing down the field because of penalties? It's not like it hadn't happened before Saturday's game.

While we're establishing clarification, are you "pizzed" because of "all the penalties, turnovers and dropped passes"? Or are you "pizzed" because Houston exploited our weaknesses to their advantage?

(10-13-2013 08:55 PM)OneShiningMoment Wrote:  just how many Tigers fans do you expect should have travelled all the way to Houston for an 11 am game???

I don't expect anyone to attend a road game. I'm simply making the point that a lack of our fans in the seats contributed to the low attendance at Saturday's game. It is possible that a game between a 5-0 team and a 1-4 team simply didn't appeal to a lot of folks. As the Tigers improve, attendance at road games may improve in kind. Regardless, it is still wrong to lash out at Houston fans because of the low turnout at the game.

Houston has struggled with attendance at their games but they are not the only school doing so. Tulsa is faced with the same problem too. And more importantly, how long has it been since Memphis sold out a Liberty Bowl game?

Houston won Saturday's game because their offense, defense and special teams combined to perform more effectively as a team than our Tigers were able to do. Tiger fans simply need to act gracefully in defeat as well as in victory.

(10-13-2013 09:00 PM)shafted1 Wrote:  

(10-13-2013 05:33 PM)wylioats Wrote:  In your initial post you said Houston embarrassed the Tigers, to which I took to task and said was a crock. Now, in this post you're saying our turnovers are the embarrassement. Dude, make up your mind.

We beat ourselves but Houston exposed our weaknesses during the game. Coach Levine would be remiss if he hadn't scouted Houston's opponent. Their coach simply exploited our weaknesses to his advantage. Or would you prefer to deny the Tigers' propensity to fumble the ball, drop passes and find themselves backing down the field because of penalties? It's not like it hadn't happened before Saturday's game.

While we're establishing clarification, are you "pizzed" because of "all the penalties, turnovers and dropped passes"? Or are you "pizzed" because Houston exploited our weaknesses to their advantage?

Hell man, I'm just trying to figure out what the hell you're embarrassed about. First it was Houston embarrassing us, then it was our fumbles and penalties that embarrassed us, then it was Houstons coaching staff exploiting our weaknesses. Maybe we should all be embarrassed for the sake of being embarrassed.

(10-12-2013 08:13 PM)flyintiger Wrote:  An undefeated (now 5-0) played in a half full 22,000 seat stadium. If the Tigers were 5-0 how many fans would be at the SMU game? Maybe the question should be: how many fans will be at the SMU game this year.

Half full?

It wasn't anywhere near half full.

(10-14-2013 06:38 AM)wylioats Wrote:  

(10-13-2013 09:00 PM)shafted1 Wrote:  

(10-13-2013 05:33 PM)wylioats Wrote:  In your initial post you said Houston embarrassed the Tigers, to which I took to task and said was a crock. Now, in this post you're saying our turnovers are the embarrassement. Dude, make up your mind.

We beat ourselves but Houston exposed our weaknesses during the game. Coach Levine would be remiss if he hadn't scouted Houston's opponent. Their coach simply exploited our weaknesses to his advantage. Or would you prefer to deny the Tigers' propensity to fumble the ball, drop passes and find themselves backing down the field because of penalties? It's not like it hadn't happened before Saturday's game.

While we're establishing clarification, are you "pizzed" because of "all the penalties, turnovers and dropped passes"? Or are you "pizzed" because Houston exploited our weaknesses to their advantage?

Hell man, I'm just trying to figure out what the hell you're embarrassed about. First it was Houston embarrassing us, then it was our fumbles and penalties that embarrassed us, then it was Houstons coaching staff exploiting our weaknesses. Maybe we should all be embarrassed for the sake of being embarrassed.

Houston got lucky. We protect the ball and we win that game.

(10-12-2013 10:58 PM)vjvj Wrote:  I would rather be 5-0 drawing 20K a game and going bowling with one more win versus 1-4, no bowl and averaging 37K a game!

As much as I love bowl games and as important as they are, I'm not sure I would. Attendance says a lot about the health of a football program. I feel very good about the future of Tiger football - If I were a Cougar, I would be deeply concerned.

(10-14-2013 09:24 AM)Gray Avenger Wrote:  

(10-12-2013 10:58 PM)vjvj Wrote:  I would rather be 5-0 drawing 20K a game and going bowling with one more win versus 1-4, no bowl and averaging 37K a game!

As much as I love bowl games and as important as they are, I'm not sure I would. Attendance says a lot about the health of a football program. I feel very good about the future of Tiger football - If I were a Cougar, I would be deeply concerned.

I'd wait and see the crowd for that 11AM SMU game before you diss another schools attendance.

To those indicating our team has been an "embarrassment??"

Please.

We want them to clean up the errors that arguably have helped the team be 1-4 instead of 3-2 or maybe even 4-1, but to label that "embarrassing" speaks more of the poster (fan?) than it does of what is really happening in the field.

(10-14-2013 08:42 AM)Tiger46 Wrote:  Houston got lucky. We protect the ball and we win that game.

Without a doubt, though I give their defense credit for stripping the ball and keeping us out of the endzone.

Attendance smack is always lame.

(10-13-2013 11:57 AM)gotigersgo111111 Wrote:  

(10-13-2013 11:53 AM)Cougar Hippy Wrote:  Couldn't win the game and now trying to talk attendance smack. Go figure.

Dude congratulations you beat a young and beaten up tiger team. Just wait till basketball and we slap your team silly twice. Also this tiger team is in the making. Wait till a year or two.

Don't forget about Women's Soccer and Golf!

The "Who cares about football? Our basketball team will crush you" and "wait a year or two" responses are getting pretty old.

Our mistakes and their focus on turnovers won the game for them. I'm hopeful that we can have a similar quality team to Houston in a year or two. Our team is certainly getting better. We'll learn to limit penalties and play disciplined football. Paxton and our young receivers will continue to improve. From there, the wins should come. We're getting there.

Back on topic... the attendance for the game was pretty pathetic. Memphis is no juggernaut when it comes to attendance. But, if we were 5-0, we would get 20,000 to a game that was played in Jackson, MS.

Our rinkle dink fickle fan base sucks. I was there and had plenty of room at the 50. I was actually pissed the entire game because of our attendance and didn't start to feel better about things until O'Korn's flip to Farrow for the 2 point conversion. There is no excuse whatsoever to not pack that stadium - especially considering how promising our start has been and Levine's resurgence with his new talent he's been recruiting.

I can tell you exactly what our demographic is. We have the old SWC die hards then limp D alums from 1990-2008. I graduated in 2005. Student support and younger alumni HAS been getting better. And yes, it was an early game and I had some friends not being able to make it due to soccer orange slices/capri sun events and other family obligations. But FFS - our student section either brings 8K for the Rice rivalry games then F'n disappears. Yes, some are saying they are studying but probably the rest are playing F'n pokemon.

What's funny is that I was actually pissed at all the new comer bandwagoners I saw during our Keenum runs. I sound like a bitter old man but I would be at games and be like "where the F have you been the last 15 years?"

Anyways. I could meltdown every year about our fan base. New stadium should provide another spike in attendance, but with ECU/Tulane co coming in and getting better. You guys are getting much better. We need much more than just wishy washy Houstonian's because I don't know if we'll be a dominant force in the Conference. We could be with O'Korn. That being said the on campus restoration with brand new pristine dorms with more beds than A&M, shutting down Cullen making it a walkway, new Houston rail line right into campus,and the last piece being the redevelopment of the HOF. All of that will contribute to greater growth (from whatever base we have) to our season ticket sales, should see better student support that will help fill the new stadium. Without a home field this year our season ticket sales took a dip. But I except them to be at all time highs next year.

(10-13-2013 09:20 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

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(10-12-2013 08:20 PM)Claw Wrote:  

(10-12-2013 08:13 PM)flyintiger Wrote:  An undefeated (now 5-0) played in a half full 22,000 seat stadium. If the Tigers were 5-0 how many fans would be at the SMU game? Maybe the question should be: how many fans will be at the SMU game this year.

They don't have a home field this year.

They are playing games all over the place until their new on-campus stadium is ready next season.

But...But...But....Couger Hippy said it was a hard sell out and they asked for our allotment back because they needed the tics?

UH announced that the game was basically close to a sellout...as their announced attendance for yesterday's game was 20,103.

Also, BBVA Compass Stadium is only about 3.5 miles from the center of UH's main campus.

Nowhere close to being a true sellout. I walked right up to the BBVA ticket window and asked for an available seating chart and the chart looked almost exactly like the above picture. I bought a ticket right behind the Tiger's bench. Cougar Hippy is a troll that UH fans don't claim. Can this be the last time we respond to anything else he says.

Quote:I'd wait and see the crowd for that 11AM SMU game before you diss another schools attendance.

Did anybody look to see if Ole Miss or Tennessee was playing at that time? The Red River Shootout killed Houston's attendance. I was at the game and I live in Houston...it wasn't hard to figure out that was the case. They have the same mixed loyalty problem we do.

(10-13-2013 12:31 PM)OneShiningMoment Wrote:  Attendance figures from last year does not reflect Robertson being sold out consistently

Robertson capacity 32,000

2012 announced attendance
Sept 1 Texas State 32,207
Sept 8 La Tech 29,142
Oct 6 N Texas 25,476
Oct 13 UAB 25,242
Oct 27 UTEP 27,433
Nov 10 Tulsa 25,827
Nov 24 Tulane 25,402

Reliant Stadium capacity 71,500
Sept 29 Rice 32,718

2010 and 2011 say hi.

(10-14-2013 12:33 PM)TruckerTiger Wrote:  

Quote:I'd wait and see the crowd for that 11AM SMU game before you diss another schools attendance.

Did anybody look to see if Ole Miss or Tennessee was playing at that time? The Red River Shootout killed Houston's attendance. I was at the game and I live in Houston...it wasn't hard to figure out that was the case. They have the same mixed loyalty problem we do.

Diss another school? I guess that's why Memphis fans are not running to other boards claiming a sellout for SMU and needing to use tickets alloted for visitors. What does it say if the Red River classic (UT vs OK) affects attendance at (UH vs Mem) when UH is undefeated. By that logic, if the Tigers were undefeated, we should expect a less than desired crowd if they are playing the same time Ole Miss and UT Vols are playing other teams? Doesn't make sense or maybe I'm missing something. Mind you it was just their village idiot CougarHippy saying it so let's be fair to their fanbase.

Houston fans here tell me Hofhienz Pavillion was not sold out when Phi Slamma Jamma played here. Of course it was for Kansas, UT and the big games but all others you could get a walk-up ticket so this is nothing new in this city.

Quote:Diss another school? I guess that's why Memphis fans are not running to other boards claiming a sellout for SMU and needing to use tickets alloted for visitors. What does it say if the Red River classic (UT vs OK) affects attendance at (UH vs Mem) when UH is undefeated. By that logic, if the Tigers were undefeated, we should expect a less than desired crowd if they are playing the same time Ole Miss and UT Vols are playing other teams? Doesn't make sense or maybe I'm missing something. Mind you it was just their village idiot CougarHippy saying it so let's be fair to their fanbase.

Houston fans here tell me Hofhienz Pavillion was not sold out when Phi Slamma Jamma played here. Of course it was for Kansas, UT and the big games but all others you could get a walk-up ticket so this is nothing new in this city.

Ok, how about this...most in Houston don't give a shat about Houston when Texas is playing....and folks in Houston are smart enough to know UH didn't beat anybody to get excited over being undefeated. Those crowds they boast of came during Sumlin/Keenan...not since then.

And yes...if UT or OM are playing a marquee game...Memphis attendance suffers. Always has, always will until Memphis starts winning on a more consistent basis.

(10-14-2013 08:42 AM)Tiger46 Wrote:  Houston got lucky. We protect the ball and we win that game.

Houston didn't have to rely on luck which is my point. If 'we protect the ball' we likely wouldn't be 1-4 on the season. The reality of it is, we're not protecting the ball.

In keeping with the original topic of this thread, the lack of attendance at the Houston game does not justify a verbal attack aimed at our conference brethren by Tiger fans. We simply lost the game due to our continued lack of fundamental skills. i.e. protecting the ball, catching passes, avoiding penalties.

I'm not bashing the Tigers but I refuse to look through rose-colored glasses. Statistically speaking, 'fumbles' trends (both lost and recovered) are consistent with Larry Porter's tenure unless we include Saturday's game against Houston. Then our averages are on the rise. That's not Houston's fault; it is our own. Houston merely exploited our weakness to their advantage.

(10-14-2013 02:38 PM)shafted1 Wrote:  

(10-14-2013 08:42 AM)Tiger46 Wrote:  Houston got lucky. We protect the ball and we win that game.

In keeping with the original topic of this thread, the lack of attendance at the Houston game does not justify a verbal attack aimed at our conference brethren by Tiger fans.

My reply about UH attendance in this thread (and I would guess most others), is in response to the one UH fan that was ADAMANT about the fact that the Memphis game was a sellout and the place would be packed and rocking.

Sorry that pointing out that guy being a moron offended you.