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Schiele article in the Daily Press
http://touch.dailypress.com/#section/751/
While Schiele will likely be a career backup, he could be thrust into meaningful PT with a Birdsong injury this year.
I suspect Mickey has QB recruiting targets for this year's class since he has whiffed on multiple QB's in the past 3 years and the cupboard is bare.
10-11-2013 11:03 AM
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(10-11-2013 11:03 AM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  http://touch.dailypress.com/#section/751/
While Schiele will likely be a career backup, he could be thrust into meaningful PT with a Birdsong injury this year.
I suspect Mickey has QB recruiting targets for this year's class since he has whiffed on multiple QB's in the past 3 years and the cupboard is bare.

Has he really whiffed on them, or did it just make more sense to convert them? If you have a RF playing QB, guys are not going to want to sit and wait behind that at this level most of the time. Plus, they are usually skilled guys, so you want to get them on the field. Do we really know that Reynolds and others could not have been developed, or is it just that we had a really young guy that rose to the top of the list and it made sense to move those others to take advantage of their abilities in other ways?
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I think he whiffed. No coach wants a walk on true Freshman as his backup qb. Mickey has even admitted to changing play calling to protect Birdsong. If he goes down the Dukes are toast.
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RE: Schiele article in the Daily Press
Not necessarily arguing that. I think the biggest whiff was Lafonda. I think he eventually thought that he would be healthy enough to at least be a backup. Turns out, he really does not throw all that well even when healthy.
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RE: Schiele article in the Daily Press
He whiffed on Thoroughgood. The freshman...I think Mickey knew all along that Reynolds and Fischer would never play QB but he told them they'd get the opportunity. Then he basically gives them a token couple of snaps in practice and moves them to where he envisions them when he recruits them. I think he tells them they'll get a chance to play QB to get them on campus. This year, he should be able to lure a true, highly touted, pure QB. Birdsong will have used up 3 years by the time the guy goes through his redshirt year so he'd have the path set to be a backup for a year one play away from playing and a 3 year starter. Totally understand why he wasn't able to get anyone this year. He even said as much. He said he tried like hell to get a 1A transfer over the summer but they all looked at the situation with Birdsong and decided to pass (or didn't believe we would pass).
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(10-11-2013 11:33 AM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  I think he whiffed. No coach wants a walk on true Freshman as his backup qb. Mickey has even admitted to changing play calling to protect Birdsong. If he goes down the Dukes are toast.

It is hard for me to say Mickey whiffed when:
1 - Birdsong progressed so well it made it easy to show JT the door and clean up that mess.
2 - Moved Reynolds to DB to get him on the field (RFr)
3 - Brought in Lafonte as another potential QB/backup QB and the kid cannot stay healthy enough to even dress for games. Was a big recruit/transfer.
4 - Brought in Ian Fischer and it seems as though he washed out/being disciplined for the season.

That is four talented guys that for one reason or another are no longer in the QB picture.
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Am I the only one having trouble finding that link?
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you are not alone ......
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(10-11-2013 11:42 AM)ShadyP Wrote:  
(10-11-2013 11:33 AM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  I think he whiffed. No coach wants a walk on true Freshman as his backup qb. Mickey has even admitted to changing play calling to protect Birdsong. If he goes down the Dukes are toast.

It is hard for me to say Mickey whiffed when:
1 - Birdsong progressed so well it made it easy to show JT the door and clean up that mess.
2 - Moved Reynolds to DB to get him on the field (RFr)
3 - Brought in Lafonte as another potential QB/backup QB and the kid cannot stay healthy enough to even dress for games. Was a big recruit/transfer.
4 - Brought in Ian Fischer and it seems as though he washed out/being disciplined for the season.

That is four talented guys that for one reason or another are no longer in the QB picture.

My gut reaction was "ARE YOU KIDDING HE TOTALLY WHIFFED" but then I looked at our QBs over the past few years (A LOT OF THEM):

Lafonte Thourogood: MM said he couldn’t throw the ball 20 yards, not sure of future
Ian Fisher: Position change benefiting player and team
Taylor Reynolds: Position change benefiting player and team
Daniel Schiele: Seems like a solid backup
Alex Girvan: No opinion
Andre Coble: Worked out at QB because of injuries but utlimately, position change benefiting player and team
Justin Thorpe: Transferred out benefiting player and team
Mack Spees: Never developed, wasn’t expected
Billy Cosh: Possible whiff. Could have been a solid starter last/this year
Jace Edwards: I don't know here. Possible whiff? Looked okay in his 5 starts and wasn't his ankle hurt as well? Off the field issues
Drew Dudzik: Didn’t whiff
Kavon Seaton: Position change benefiting player and team (where is he now?)
Aaron Butler: Never developed, wasn’t expected
Keith McPherson: Never developed? Not exactly sure what happened but did see this in his bio… “Rivals.com top-50 overall and No. 3 QB in NJ as a senior”, Possible whiff?
Mike Allen: Position change benefiting player and team

In conclusion we are in a difficult spot if Birdsong gets hurt but that is one thing I will not completely blame MM. I think he handled a few QB situations wrong but it is tough for me to say he has whiffed. Sure we could have a more experience backup at times but I will take a better athlete starting at another position than backing up the QB (Fisher, Reynolds, Allen, Seaton). Over the last few years we have seen Dudzik, Thorpe and now Birdsong come in as freshman and develop to become starters as they were expected.

And for what it's worth we beat #1 Bill and Gary without a QB.
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(10-11-2013 01:12 PM)JMUTEKE Wrote:  you are not alone ......

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By Marty O'Brien, mobrien@dailypress.com
1:43 am, October 11, 2013

HARRISONBURG — Sure, it was possible to conceive of Dan Schiele on a Football Championship Subdivision roster coming out of Tabb High. At 6-foot-5, he has prototypical quarterback size to go with a good arm, football smarts and a good attitude.
And he was the All-Bay Rivers District quarterback a year ago, although the league was hardly distinguished by quarterback play, Schiele's included. He never had big passing or running numbers out of the Wing-T for Tabb, which did not have a winning season during his three years as starter.
So, with no scholarship offers, Schiele pursued his football dreams at the one Division I school that had shown steady interest in him as a walk-on: James Madison. Instead of taking walk-on status as a slight, Schiele looked at it as an opportunity and he's made the best of it.
A true freshman, Schiele rose surprisingly to No. 2 at the quarterback spot on the Dukes' depth chart in the preseason. He's played in three of six games for the No. 21-ranked Dukes (4-2) and, while he's still pinching himself sometimes to make sure his sudden turn of fortune is real, he also exudes confidence at being a snap away from becoming the Dukes' starter.
Following the Dukes' 40-13 win over Albany on Saturday, Schiele talked about his season.
Q: If I'd have told you a year ago that you'd be the No. 2 quarterback for an FCS power, what would you have said?
A: I'd have said that you were crazy. But it worked out that way and I'm glad I've gotten the opportunity to do it.
Q: Does it feel rags-to-riches in terms of where you were as a college prospect a year ago?
A: It's a change from where I thought I'd be. I figured I'd come in here and redshirt and be the third or fourth guy. They brought in a lot of quarterbacks, so I figured I'd need to work hard and redshirt for the next couple of years.
Q: What did the coaches see in preseason practice that moved you so far up the depth chart?
A: I was being smart with the ball in practice, not turning it over, and I was making good throws in the one-on-ones and seven-on-sevens. I think the coaches were kind of surprised at how poised I was.
The guys kind of had a feeling for me. The only quarterback who was established was (starter) Michael (Birdsong), but (the players) thought I was good enough to play and they played good when I was in.
Q: Technically, where have you improved the most at quarterback since last year?
A: Probably my release. It's a lot quicker. Before, I was winding up with the ball a little bit.
Q: What did it feel like to run out on the field (in the season opener) against Central Connecticut?
A: The fireworks and the fans before the game is a crazy atmosphere, I loved it.
Q: How about taking your first college snap in that game?
A: My first thought was, "Dang, my redshirt's gone." But I'm glad I got the opportunity to do that because I'm learning. The learning curve is insane right now.
Q: If something happens to Birdsong, are you ready to run (JMU's) offense?
A: Definitely. Me and Birdsong are similar. He has a little stronger arm than I do, but we're both smart with the ball.
Q: What do you like about the JMU offense?
A: It's fast. You're throwing the ball a lot. You're making a lot of reads, which I like. Some plays you're picking two plays based on the defense, and I like being in control.
Q: Your quarterbacks coach (Mike O'Cain) helped develop Tyrod Taylor and Logan Thomas while he was at Virginia Tech. What do you like about him?
A: He's a great coach. He's not a real big 'yell in your face' kind of guy. And he's very smart. He can cut up a defense.
We don't watch as much film as I thought we would. But he knows how to pick plays that will set up plays in the second half.
Q: What's your relationship with Birdsong?
A: He's a great guy, a great leader and a great quarterback. We have each other's backs.
Q: The expectation as No. 2 is one day you'll either compete to be No. 1 or become No. 1. Your thoughts?
A: Down the road, I want to be given that opportunity to compete. At worst, I hope to be No. 1 or competing for it by senior year, because Birdsong will be gone.Q: How good can JMU be in the Colonial Athletic Association this year?
A: Very good. We have a very good defense and very good, fast-paced offense when we execute. The problem is we shoot ourselves in the foot. You saw it today with too many penalties.
Q: What's the atmosphere playing out here in front of 25,000 at Bridgeforth Stadium versus (Tabb's home at) Bailey Field?
A: A lot more people and a lot louder, so I've got to be louder on the field. The guys were even telling me, "You've got to be louder."
Q: What are you hearing from your friends back home at Tabb about your success?
A: They're naturally happy and they want to see me. I'll be back home for the Tabb-Bruton game (Oct. 18).
O'Brien can be reached by phone at 757-247-4963.
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