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Can you "trust" your freindly neighborhood govt Obamacare Navigator?
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Can you "trust" your freindly neighborhood govt Obamacare Navigator?
So glad they have these "experts" available to help!

There are no certifications or previous experience or schooling required to apply to train to be a navigator for the Affordable Care Act. Almost anyone with a pulse can sign up to "help." In many states a navigator receives only 3 days of training before they will be expected to understand and explain a 2300 page law that has already generated over 15,000 pages in additional rules and regulations.

Navigators will be expected to also understand tax and income terminology so they can correctly enter your wage and income tax history into the database along with your filing status. The purpose of that phase is to calculate your MAGI (Modified Adjusted Gross Income) which will then determine the amount of any taxpayer funded subsidy to which you may be entitled.

Why is this a bad thing?

The part-timer’s that work for H & R Block receive months of training and most of the returns they prepare are simple two page returns.

The Obamacare financial colonoscopy form can be up to 26 pages and take a minimum estimated 45 minutes to prepare, that is if you even have all of the information they will ask you available. Think preparing your taxes is a bear? Nothing compared to Obamacare!

Plus to be eligible to receive any subsidies if your income qualifies you, youy MUST buy your plan through the Obamacare exchanges.
Even if your personal or family income qualifies you (up to about $45K individual, up to about $95K family) independently- purchased Healthcare plans bought from Insurance brokers and agents, the kind you can sit down with in person and get a feel for while shopping around for yourself, professionals who have to study extensively, pass licensing exams, and take required continuing education, and in general often have much more training than the navigators, are ineligible to help you if you want a subsidy you qualify for. Obamacare: putting even more people with good jobs out of work!
10-04-2013 05:13 PM
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"The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'"

Ronald Reagan
10-04-2013 05:18 PM
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(10-04-2013 05:18 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  "The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'"

Ronald Reagan

Yes, I was thinking of adding that as I typed but thought it might seem over the top? Thanks for the help, SuperFBC!
10-04-2013 05:25 PM
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(10-04-2013 05:25 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  
(10-04-2013 05:18 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  "The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'"

Ronald Reagan

Yes, I was thinking of adding that as I typed but thought it might seem over the top? Thanks for the help, SuperFBC!
Oh good. We now have StupidOwl posting here. Can you please show me where you got that info from? Everything I have heard is that they are from churches, and other volunteer organizations and DO get training(though maybe not as much as they could have because the Repealican'ts cut the funding.
10-04-2013 05:40 PM
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(10-04-2013 05:40 PM)RobertN Wrote:  Oh good. We now have StupidOwl posting here.

Wow, I'm so....hurt, sniffle, NOT!

Hey Robert, here's something more on your level: I'm rubber, you're glue!
10-04-2013 05:57 PM
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Can you "trust" your freindly neighborhood govt Obamacare Navigator?
No.
10-04-2013 06:00 PM
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There is NO background check required to be a navigator.

Let's see, if I was a criminal, I'd volunteer because where else can you have people willingly hand over all of their personal information, including SS# to somebody they don't know? Identity thieves can make out like bandits as navigators.

Just the other day, a navigator in Wisconsin (?) or Minnesota (?) accidently sent to another worker a db with 23K people, which included all their personal information. Luckily, the recipient was not a criminal. But it freaked her out the ease with which this info can fall into the wrong hands.

This whole thing is ripe for fraud.
10-04-2013 06:08 PM
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(10-04-2013 06:08 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  There is NO background check required to be a navigator.

Let's see, if I was a criminal, I'd volunteer because where else can you have people willingly hand over all of their personal information, including SS# to somebody they don't know? Identity thieves can make out like bandits as navigators.

Just the other day, a navigator in Wisconsin (?) or Minnesota (?) accidentally sent to another worker a db with 23K people, which included all their personal information. Luckily, the recipient was not a criminal. But it freaked her out the ease with which this info can fall into the wrong hands.

This whole thing is ripe for fraud.

Wait a minute....you mean Obama wants to put all the Nigerian Chain email letter people out of work too??

Man, I thought he was happy just putting Americans out of work. I guess Kenyans don't like Nigeria much, huh?
10-04-2013 06:20 PM
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(10-04-2013 06:20 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  
(10-04-2013 06:08 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  There is NO background check required to be a navigator.

Let's see, if I was a criminal, I'd volunteer because where else can you have people willingly hand over all of their personal information, including SS# to somebody they don't know? Identity thieves can make out like bandits as navigators.

Just the other day, a navigator in Wisconsin (?) or Minnesota (?) accidentally sent to another worker a db with 23K people, which included all their personal information. Luckily, the recipient was not a criminal. But it freaked her out the ease with which this info can fall into the wrong hands.

This whole thing is ripe for fraud.

Wait a minute....you mean Obama wants to put all the Nigerian Chain email letter people out of work too??

Man, I thought he was happy just putting Americans out of work. I guess Kenyans don't like Nigeria much, huh?
Here is an explanation from FactCheck. Don't worry StupidOwl, Georgia makes a background check mandatory. :)

http://www.factcheck.org/2013/10/gop-att...avigators/
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RE: Can you "trust" your freindly neighborhood govt Obamacare Navigator?
The only thing they will be "navigating" at my house is their socialist arse off of my property.
10-04-2013 07:39 PM
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