(10-02-2013 12:01 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  A party who did not get a majority of votes either for House, Senate, or President but it's their way or the highway wants to dictate about democracy?

This isn't a democracy. It is a constitutional republic with representatives elected democratically.

(10-02-2013 06:51 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(10-02-2013 12:01 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  A party who did not get a majority of votes either for House, Senate, or President but it's their way or the highway wants to dictate about democracy?

This isn't a democracy. It is a constitutional republic with representatives elected democratically.

You know what I meant, and my point still stands.

(10-02-2013 12:07 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  

(10-02-2013 12:04 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Have to when the other party knows nothing of it.

Don't think you get it. Put everything up for a vote and see if it wins or loses. If people were so upset about Obamacare, they shouldn't have elected a Senate and a President who promised to keep it in place.

We're not a direct democracy. We don't rule by polls, and we don't put national laws up for a referendum. Don't like the law? Vote out the people who passed it. Did that already? Well, more of your fellow citizens like it so it stays. That's why it's a Democracy. The voters of Texas don't get to decide via Ted Cruz the laws of the rest of the country by themselves.

The U.S. is NOT a democracy. Never has been.
Read a freaking Jr. High Civics book.

Yep,

Feel the exact same way. R's hold 1/3rd of govt. and that 1/3rd would pass a clean CR if it's put up to a vote. Quit being a dictator John. Put it up to a vote!!!

(10-02-2013 09:18 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Yep,

Feel the exact same way. R's hold 1/3rd of govt. and that 1/3rd would pass a clean CR if it's put up to a vote. Quit being a dictator John. Put it up to a vote!!!

For the same reason Dirty Harry won't put the 2013 budget passed by the house up for a vote.

Mack, your sh!t is weak.

(10-02-2013 04:17 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(10-02-2013 04:10 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(10-02-2013 03:07 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(10-02-2013 02:33 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(10-02-2013 02:10 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  An injunction could be issued, to prevent Obama from acting unconstitutionally, if he tries this really stupidshit.

It's not really that stupid. We racked up the bills, we need to pay them.

We can only pay them if Liberals are not allowed to bankrupt the country. That's the point 17trillion in debt, 8 trillion on Obama's watch. Headed to 20 trillion before we get rid of the spender in chief. You do understand bankruptcy, don't you clown?

Clown, were you alive during the bush reign when we exploded the debt?

Would you stop lying that this is a democrat/liberal problem only. It defies fact and logic.

During the Bush Administration, total outlays increased every year from $1.8 trillion in 2001 to $2.9 trillion in 2008. The average deficit during the Bush years was $250 billion. As a percentage of GDP, the average deficit was two percent. President Bush’s largest deficit was $458 billion in 2008 when the financial crisis led to the creation of the Troubled Asset Relief Program and several corporate bailouts.

During President Obama’s first term, federal outlays increased from $3.5 trillion in 2009 to $3.6 trillion in 2011. The estimated total outlays for 2012 are estimated to be $3.8 trillion. In Obama’s first year, the deficit increased by almost a trillion dollars from 2008. Obama has not had a single year in which the deficit was less than a trillion dollars. Obama’s average deficit was $1.3 trillion during his first three years. This translates into an average deficit that is 9.2 percent of GDP.

and

During President Obama’s first term the debt increased to $16.4 trillion on January 20, 2013. This means that under Obama, the debt had increased by $5.8 trillion in four years as opposed to President Bush’s increase of $4.9 trillion over eight years.

In the final analysis, both presidents grew government and spent and borrowed far too much. President Obama’s spending and borrowing is in a league by itself, however. Obama is the only president in U.S. history to preside over trillion dollar deficits and one has occurred each year of his presidency.

The only other period in American history in which spending levels matched those under Obama was when the country mobilized to fight the Axis during World War II. In the 1940s, government spending decreased at the end of the war. So far President Obama has shown no signs of ever slowing his spending.

http://www.examiner.com/article/obama-v-...government

Tom, are you there? We're waiting.

(10-02-2013 06:51 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(10-02-2013 12:01 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  A party who did not get a majority of votes either for House, Senate, or President but it's their way or the highway wants to dictate about democracy?

This isn't a democracy. It is a constitutional republic with representatives elected democratically.

Yes..and like it or not the T party guys have the cards. They are in NO danger of losing their jobs. They won their districts overwhelmingly and will again. Sometimes the system just sucks for those that worship it.

(10-03-2013 01:18 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(10-02-2013 09:18 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Yep,

Feel the exact same way. R's hold 1/3rd of govt. and that 1/3rd would pass a clean CR if it's put up to a vote. Quit being a dictator John. Put it up to a vote!!!

For the same reason Dirty Harry won't put the 2013 budget passed by the house up for a vote.

Mack, your sh!t is weak.

The difference is the House budget has no chance of passing in the Senate, even if they put it up to a vote. The Senate budget, however, stands a good chance of passing with Dems + non-Tea Party Republicans. Boner is just scared he'll lose his speakership if he pisses off the Teabaggers

(10-03-2013 09:06 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  

(10-03-2013 01:18 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(10-02-2013 09:18 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Yep,

Feel the exact same way. R's hold 1/3rd of govt. and that 1/3rd would pass a clean CR if it's put up to a vote. Quit being a dictator John. Put it up to a vote!!!

For the same reason Dirty Harry won't put the 2013 budget passed by the house up for a vote.

Mack, your sh!t is weak.

The difference is the House budget has no chance of passing in the Senate, even if they put it up to a vote. The Senate budget, however, stands a good chance of passing with Dems + non-Tea Party Republicans. Boner is just scared he'll lose his speakership if he pisses off the Teabaggers

They are both required by law to hammer out a budget. F'uck the CRs

How come we didn't have a budget for years then and why are those Congressmen not in jail.