(10-01-2013 04:23 PM)eager eagle Wrote:  Anyone watching would note there were 3-4 sections on both sides that were significantly yet not fully occupied but if full would equate an attendance of around 8,000. The rest of that stadium, throughout the 4-5 hour ordeal, was completely empty. Most who were in those sections during rain delay moved up under the overhangs, no one blames them for that but it made the entire stadium look empty throughout the rest of the game.

The attendance was announced as just over 31,000 therefore one might wonder where those people were. If so then consider the promoters, etc along with businesses, civic organizations, doled out discounted tickets at dirt cheap prices to groups, etc and the recipients, rather than attend the game, used those to attend the FAIR. Thus, most of the 31,000 tickets were used by people to walk up and down the fairway and never entered the stadium.

Cant blame La Tech or Army for the skewed numbers. Tickets were issued but folks used them to attend the fair.

Couldn't have been the initial rain/lightning delay, and then another rain/lightning delay in the 1st quarter...

(10-02-2013 08:07 AM)eager eagle Wrote:  

(10-01-2013 08:18 PM)EdisonDoyle Wrote:  Relax, go to Ruston to see your Eagles next month, stay in a nice hotel, and drink a dirty martini - make it a double.

I already have motel reservations at the Motel 6 high rise overlooking the entire block of downtown Dogpatch and McDonalds will be holding aside a table for dinner after the game.

Should have stayed at a Holiday Inn Express...

I was there. Tech fans filled 5 of the lower sections. I was shocked how many showed up. Somewhere between 15-20k tech fans. Army had 3 sections almost full, 6-8k. They announced 32k.

When the rains came Tech fans filled the entire covered seating and were packed like sardines in the walkways.

The only thing I liked about the game was seeing the Army players salute the flag during the national anthem. I was very emotional and made me feel proud of America even with the current president.

(10-03-2013 08:33 AM)Cscollis Wrote:  I was there. Tech fans filled 5 of the lower sections. I was shocked how many showed up. Somewhere between 15-20k tech fans. Army had 3 sections almost full, 6-8k. They announced 32k.

When the rains came Tech fans filled the entire covered seating and were packed like sardines in the walkways.

The only thing I liked about the game was seeing the Army players salute the flag during the national anthem. I was very emotional and made me feel proud of America even with the current president.

The TV cameras showed the stadium to be almost completely empty EXCEPT for initial period right before game time, NOBODY can dispute that. I stated that it appeared there might be up to four sections occupied on both sides, at game time, total of eight for a crowd of some 8,000.

You state Tech filled five sections, Army three, for total of eight, just like I said. HOWEVER, those eight sections DO NOT SEAT 32,000 people. There are about 200 (TWO HUNDRED) sections in that 90,000 seat stadium. The lower sideline sections hold from 500-1,000 so at the max those eight sections would not surpass 8,000 at game time and before rain delay. I wasnt there and dont know how many were in the bowels of the stadium but no more than 8,000 ever showed their butts out in the stadium seats.

(10-03-2013 12:04 PM)eager eagle Wrote:  

(10-03-2013 08:33 AM)Cscollis Wrote:  I was there. Tech fans filled 5 of the lower sections. I was shocked how many showed up. Somewhere between 15-20k tech fans. Army had 3 sections almost full, 6-8k. They announced 32k.

When the rains came Tech fans filled the entire covered seating and were packed like sardines in the walkways.

The only thing I liked about the game was seeing the Army players salute the flag during the national anthem. I was very emotional and made me feel proud of America even with the current president.

The TV cameras showed the stadium to be almost completely empty EXCEPT for initial period right before game time, NOBODY can dispute that. I stated that it appeared there might be up to four sections occupied on both sides, at game time, total of eight for a crowd of some 8,000.

You state Tech filled five sections, Army three, for total of eight, just like I said. HOWEVER, those eight sections DO NOT SEAT 32,000 people. There are about 200 (TWO HUNDRED) sections in that 90,000 seat stadium. The lower sideline sections hold from 500-1,000 so at the max those eight sections would not surpass 8,000 at game time and before rain delay. I wasnt there and dont know how many were in the bowels of the stadium but no more than 8,000 ever showed their butts out in the stadium seats.

You are one sad, laughable person.

Hey Tech fans does Stow's still exist? And is Anthony's still around? If so if am going to down some spaghetti and hit the light up dance floor.

(10-03-2013 12:22 PM)cyc46 Wrote:  Hey Tech fans does Stow's still exist? And is Anthony's still around? If so if am going to down some spaghetti and hit the light up dance floor.

You are old like me when you ask about Stow's. Sorry Stow's is closed.

(10-03-2013 08:33 AM)Cscollis Wrote:  I was there. Tech fans filled 5 of the lower sections. I was shocked how many showed up. Somewhere between 15-20k tech fans. Army had 3 sections almost full, 6-8k. They announced 32k.

When the rains came Tech fans filled the entire covered seating and were packed like sardines in the walkways.

The only thing I liked about the game was seeing the Army players salute the flag during the national anthem. I was very emotional and made me feel proud of America even with the current president.

Doesn't matter if you were there EE is always right...

(10-03-2013 12:04 PM)eager eagle Wrote:  

(10-03-2013 08:33 AM)Cscollis Wrote:  I was there. Tech fans filled 5 of the lower sections. I was shocked how many showed up. Somewhere between 15-20k tech fans. Army had 3 sections almost full, 6-8k. They announced 32k.

When the rains came Tech fans filled the entire covered seating and were packed like sardines in the walkways.

The only thing I liked about the game was seeing the Army players salute the flag during the national anthem. I was very emotional and made me feel proud of America even with the current president.

The TV cameras showed the stadium to be almost completely empty EXCEPT for initial period right before game time, NOBODY can dispute that. I stated that it appeared there might be up to four sections occupied on both sides, at game time, total of eight for a crowd of some 8,000.

You state Tech filled five sections, Army three, for total of eight, just like I said. HOWEVER, those eight sections DO NOT SEAT 32,000 people. There are about 200 (TWO HUNDRED) sections in that 90,000 seat stadium. The lower sideline sections hold from 500-1,000 so at the max those eight sections would not surpass 8,000 at game time and before rain delay. I wasnt there and dont know how many were in the bowels of the stadium but no more than 8,000 ever showed their butts out in the stadium seats.

Out of curiosity, why is La Tech's attendance of such interest to you? It seems that in the stands performance (attendance) results in more heated discussions than on the field performance (wins).

(10-04-2013 09:21 AM)Jacque Wrote:  

(10-03-2013 12:04 PM)eager eagle Wrote:  

(10-03-2013 08:33 AM)Cscollis Wrote:  I was there. Tech fans filled 5 of the lower sections. I was shocked how many showed up. Somewhere between 15-20k tech fans. Army had 3 sections almost full, 6-8k. They announced 32k.

When the rains came Tech fans filled the entire covered seating and were packed like sardines in the walkways.

The only thing I liked about the game was seeing the Army players salute the flag during the national anthem. I was very emotional and made me feel proud of America even with the current president.

The TV cameras showed the stadium to be almost completely empty EXCEPT for initial period right before game time, NOBODY can dispute that. I stated that it appeared there might be up to four sections occupied on both sides, at game time, total of eight for a crowd of some 8,000.

You state Tech filled five sections, Army three, for total of eight, just like I said. HOWEVER, those eight sections DO NOT SEAT 32,000 people. There are about 200 (TWO HUNDRED) sections in that 90,000 seat stadium. The lower sideline sections hold from 500-1,000 so at the max those eight sections would not surpass 8,000 at game time and before rain delay. I wasnt there and dont know how many were in the bowels of the stadium but no more than 8,000 ever showed their butts out in the stadium seats.

Out of curiosity, why is La Tech's attendance of such interest to you? It seems that in the stands performance (attendance) results in more heated discussions than on the field performance (wins).

Attendance, butts in the seats, clearly defines and reveals the FAN support level for each and every school. A conference dominated by schools with little fan support (clearly revealed in this day and time by tv) in my opinion is perceived as being a small time, mickey mouse conference with little if any respect in the sports world in general.

This will become clear to all once current media and bowl arrangements expire, the c-belch will be scratching like you know what for any table crumbs they can find. Prime example is this alleged bowl hookup out in the Bahamas, simply a crumb.

(10-04-2013 11:23 AM)eager eagle Wrote:  

(10-04-2013 09:21 AM)Jacque Wrote:  

(10-03-2013 12:04 PM)eager eagle Wrote:  

(10-03-2013 08:33 AM)Cscollis Wrote:  I was there. Tech fans filled 5 of the lower sections. I was shocked how many showed up. Somewhere between 15-20k tech fans. Army had 3 sections almost full, 6-8k. They announced 32k.

When the rains came Tech fans filled the entire covered seating and were packed like sardines in the walkways.

The only thing I liked about the game was seeing the Army players salute the flag during the national anthem. I was very emotional and made me feel proud of America even with the current president.

The TV cameras showed the stadium to be almost completely empty EXCEPT for initial period right before game time, NOBODY can dispute that. I stated that it appeared there might be up to four sections occupied on both sides, at game time, total of eight for a crowd of some 8,000.

You state Tech filled five sections, Army three, for total of eight, just like I said. HOWEVER, those eight sections DO NOT SEAT 32,000 people. There are about 200 (TWO HUNDRED) sections in that 90,000 seat stadium. The lower sideline sections hold from 500-1,000 so at the max those eight sections would not surpass 8,000 at game time and before rain delay. I wasnt there and dont know how many were in the bowels of the stadium but no more than 8,000 ever showed their butts out in the stadium seats.

Out of curiosity, why is La Tech's attendance of such interest to you? It seems that in the stands performance (attendance) results in more heated discussions than on the field performance (wins).

Attendance, butts in the seats, clearly defines and reveals the FAN support level for each and every school. A conference dominated by schools with little fan support (clearly revealed in this day and time by tv) in my opinion is perceived as being a small time, mickey mouse conference with little if any respect in the sports world in general.

This will become clear to all once current media and bowl arrangements expire, the c-belch will be scratching like you know what for any table crumbs they can find. Prime example is this alleged bowl hookup out in the Bahamas, simply a crumb.

Not true. You don't harass UAB, SMU, Tulane, Rice, MTSU, North Texas, FIU, FAU, and others whose attendance is at best equal to Tech's. And this has been going on for YEARS with you.

Out of curiosity, why is La Tech's attendance of such interest to you? It seems that in the stands performance (attendance) results in more heated discussions than on the field performance (wins).
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Attendance, butts in the seats, clearly defines and reveals the FAN support level for each and every school. A conference dominated by schools with little fan support (clearly revealed in this day and time by tv) in my opinion is perceived as being a small time, mickey mouse conference with little if any respect in the sports world in general.

This will become clear to all once current media and bowl arrangements expire, the c-belch will be scratching like you know what for any table crumbs they can find. Prime example is this alleged bowl hookup out in the Bahamas, simply a crumb.
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Not true. You don't harass UAB, SMU, Tulane, Rice, MTSU, North Texas, FIU, FAU, and others whose attendance is at best equal to Tech's. And this has been going on for YEARS with you.
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The big picture here is that attendance and fan base defines a program and in turn reflects on the conference perception. It is clearly small time when tv production units are forced to make concentrated efforts to avoid views of the crowd or else zoom in and concentrate on clusters of fans here and there.

I use La Tech as a prime example of this and yes there are others in the league now and some who have left that have the same problem. Tech is easy to survey due to simple layout of their stadium, sections are basically the same except for the ears on each end, both sides. I just saw some information concerning school revenues and expenses which are appropriate to this discussion.

Tech had ticket sale revenues for fiscal year ending 6-30-2013 in the amount of $953,922. That is gate receipts for all home games in all sports both mens and womens. Using same resource there are THREE teams on the way out that grossed a combined total of $21,114,858 compared to SEVEN newcomers who totaled only $10,724,668. Info for the privates is not available.

Losing $21mil in fan base compared to newbies bringing in only $10 mil is the hand writing on the wall regarding future negotiations.

Good Gawd, this LA Tech - Army attendance thread is still going....going ? Egad.

Bowls are stupid EE. Teams lose money on them most of the time. But relax, there are so many of them that if a team wins 6 games, their chance of bowling somewhere is about 90%, regardless of the conference tie-ins, how many fans they have, or what angles the TV crew uses on their home games. CUSA teams will be the ones who get left out if it comes down to them or an AQ team though... even USM and there 25,000 fans and great camera angles.

I was pretty impressed with the attendance by Army.

The 45 minute rain delay to start was difficult in the inner areas of the Cotton Bowl. Got real hot down there real fast.

With a seating capacity of 90,000 it did look sparse. Several of our group stayed below to watch the game on the monitors instead of sitting in the drizzle.

The second rain delay sent a lot of Tech fans to the West End. The fair shut down during the rain delays. The last 3 DART trains at the end of the game were very full.