Not sure I would want to try green eggs no matter what someone told me they
tasted like.

(09-26-2013 09:21 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(09-26-2013 09:12 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Owl,
Then find another book to read. That's all I'm pointing out. It was a dumb angle.

I understand that. I wonder if it wasn't an attempt at satire, or maybe irony, probably a poorly placed attempt given the context. Then again, he went to Princeton and Harvard, so this could have been an Ivy League attempt at humor that goes over everyone else's head.

But do you have an answer for my question?

His young kids were going to bed, and his only way of communicating with them was to read a childrens' book to his kids while they watched on C-SPAN. The choice of books was as simple as that.

(09-26-2013 08:20 PM)maximus Wrote:  

(09-26-2013 01:43 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  First off, who the hell are Thom Hartmann, Mike Malloy and Jesse LaGreca?

Second, their comments were idiotic and not indicative of liberals in general.

Cruz did nothing but hurt himself and his party and help Obama in the process. Especially with his reading of a story where a curmudgeon hates something he's never had until he tries it and then he loves it. You just can't make this **** up!

I am pretty certain Cruz could give two ***** about what the dopes in the Republican Party think.

He will when those same guys keep him from having a position on any meaningful committee.

Owl,

I talk to Canadians all the time. ALL THE TIME. They wouldn't trade their situation for ours in any way shape or form, but we rehashed this over and over and over. We just have to agree to disagree. I also believe once Obamacare gets into full swing we WILL never turn away from it because people will like it so much. That's why the Heritage Action Faction is fighting like hell. They know people will like it and probably want more and better funding for it. I hope we are both alive in 20 years to see where this goes.

(09-26-2013 01:43 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  First off, who the hell are Thom Hartmann, Mike Malloy and Jesse LaGreca?

Second, their comments were idiotic and not indicative of liberals in general.

Cruz did nothing but hurt himself and his party and help Obama in the process. Especially with his reading of a story where a curmudgeon hates something he's never had until he tries it and then he loves it. You just can't make this **** up!

Nice try. They are poster children for the left.

(09-27-2013 10:00 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Owl,
I talk to Canadians all the time. ALL THE TIME. They wouldn't trade their situation for ours in any way shape or form, but we rehashed this over and over and over. We just have to agree to disagree. I also believe once Obamacare gets into full swing we WILL never turn away from it because people will like it so much. That's why the Heritage Action Faction is fighting like hell. They know people will like it and probably want more and better funding for it. I hope we are both alive in 20 years to see where this goes.

Number 1, Obamacare isn't the Canadian system.

Number 2, the Canadian system is not highly regarded by comparison to other world systems. It was 30th in the WHO study, which valued equal access and cost more than quality, so it should have finished way ahead of us with that bias. In two studies where Canada and 27 European systems were ranked together, it was a solid 28th both times (US was not included in those). Commonwealth Fund (whose rankings may be biased by their stated goal of bringing a single payer system to the US) ranks 6 or 7 countries every few years, including Canada, US, and typically a couple of Bismarcks and a couple of European single-provider systems. The US finishes last, not surprising given the biases, but Canada perhaps surprisingly is always next to last.

Number 3, Canadians famously suffer from "tallest daisy syndrome," essentially "I'm okay with my health care sucking, as long as yours does too." Interestingly, Gallup has done some polling which asks two questions--how do you like your country's health care system as a whole, and how do you like the health care available to you personally. Canadians show much higher satisfaction with their country's system as a whole than Americans do, but at the same time much LOWER satisfaction with the health care available to them personally. So I would discount your anecdotal comments.

Number 4, Obamacare simply cannot work. It is based on flawed economic principles that have been tried repeatedly throughout history and have never worked once.

I hope we are both alive in 20 years too. More to the point, I hope your daughter is too. If Obamacare pulls the plug on her treatment (and I fully expect that it will) I will have some suggestions for you to try. I apologize if that comes across as insensitive. I don't mean it that way. I just find it difficult to believe that you support Obamacare, given your situation.

(09-27-2013 10:17 AM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  

(09-26-2013 01:43 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  First off, who the hell are Thom Hartmann, Mike Malloy and Jesse LaGreca?

Second, their comments were idiotic and not indicative of liberals in general.

Cruz did nothing but hurt himself and his party and help Obama in the process. Especially with his reading of a story where a curmudgeon hates something he's never had until he tries it and then he loves it. You just can't make this **** up!

Nice try. They are poster children for the left.

You're right. I have no idea who I, a person on the left, go to for commentary and information.

(09-27-2013 10:41 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-27-2013 10:17 AM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  

(09-26-2013 01:43 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  First off, who the hell are Thom Hartmann, Mike Malloy and Jesse LaGreca?

Second, their comments were idiotic and not indicative of liberals in general.

Cruz did nothing but hurt himself and his party and help Obama in the process. Especially with his reading of a story where a curmudgeon hates something he's never had until he tries it and then he loves it. You just can't make this **** up!

Nice try. They are poster children for the left.

You're right. I have no idea who I, a person on the left, go to for commentary and information.

In this case, Fred Phelps is a poster child for the right.