Shutting down the lacrosse program for a year? Really? Because college students were drinking beer? The wussification of America continues.

Things have changed since the "Animal House" days when I was in school.

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/...-chug-beer

I don't think anybody should be hazed dude...but if they did it voluntarily and since it is part of college life, I don't see what the problem is.


Sounds like somebody snitched.

(09-23-2013 10:33 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  Shutting down the lacrosse program for a year? Really? Because college students were drinking beer? The wussification of America continues.

Neither drinking alcohol, nor forcing someone else to drink alcohol makes someone manlier or less of a "wuss".

The season wasn't cancelled because kids were drinking alcohol, but because of dangerous hazing practices. Which I would guess would also be a violation of the university's code of conduct. The players should probably be happy they lost a season instead of their college education or, god forbid, a teammate.

I would refer you to what you yourself posted in another thread.

(09-22-2013 04:28 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  My prayers are with the families and all who are involved. This is a parent's worst nightmare; they'll never be the same. There is no "closure".

Young people think all those warnings about drinking & driving (or texting & driving) don't apply to them.

A freshman at NIU died last December from alcohol related hazing. Doubt his parents got much closure. I'm sure there are plenty of other examples out there.


Personally I think hazing is stupid, but if someone wants to haze someone to prove their loyalty or commitment or whatever, then fine. However, if they do it in a way that could harm or kill that person, then ef 'em.

So if they were doing an all freshman Keg race against upper class teammates and they have 11 freshman on the roster, it comes out to around 14.5 beers per player before accounting for spillage and foam.

They should've just made them chug pitchers of beer and stuff so they have some fun without getting sick/getting the team shut down.

Did they force them to chug it with their butts? That would be hazing; unless you are in the hills of Tennessee.

(09-23-2013 11:49 PM)TheEastisPurple Wrote:  

(09-23-2013 10:33 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  Shutting down the lacrosse program for a year? Really? Because college students were drinking beer? The wussification of America continues.

Neither drinking alcohol, nor forcing someone else to drink alcohol makes someone manlier or less of a "wuss".

The season wasn't cancelled because kids were drinking alcohol, but because of dangerous hazing practices. Which I would guess would also be a violation of the university's code of conduct. The players should probably be happy they lost a season instead of their college education or, god forbid, a teammate.

I would refer you to what you yourself posted in another thread.

(09-22-2013 04:28 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  My prayers are with the families and all who are involved. This is a parent's worst nightmare; they'll never be the same. There is no "closure".

Young people think all those warnings about drinking & driving (or texting & driving) don't apply to them.

A freshman at NIU died last December from alcohol related hazing. Doubt his parents got much closure. I'm sure there are plenty of other examples out there.


Personally I think hazing is stupid, but if someone wants to haze someone to prove their loyalty or commitment or whatever, then fine. However, if they do it in a way that could harm or kill that person, then ef 'em.

College students chugging beer is not the same as drinking and driving. One doesn't automatically follow the other. If you don't understand that ...

(09-24-2013 01:29 AM)3rdgenerationtiger Wrote:  Did they force them to chug it with their butts? That would be hazing; unless you are in the hills of Tennessee.

One vomits when they drink too much alcohol. I shudder to think of the aftermath of an overindulgent butt chugger.

(09-24-2013 08:17 AM)eltigre Wrote:  

(09-24-2013 01:29 AM)3rdgenerationtiger Wrote:  Did they force them to chug it with their butts? That would be hazing; unless you are in the hills of Tennessee.

One vomits when they drink too much alcohol. I shudder to think of the aftermath of an overindulgent butt chugger.

um...eww

(09-24-2013 06:11 AM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  

(09-23-2013 11:49 PM)TheEastisPurple Wrote:  

(09-23-2013 10:33 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  Shutting down the lacrosse program for a year? Really? Because college students were drinking beer? The wussification of America continues.

Neither drinking alcohol, nor forcing someone else to drink alcohol makes someone manlier or less of a "wuss".

The season wasn't cancelled because kids were drinking alcohol, but because of dangerous hazing practices. Which I would guess would also be a violation of the university's code of conduct. The players should probably be happy they lost a season instead of their college education or, god forbid, a teammate.

I would refer you to what you yourself posted in another thread.

(09-22-2013 04:28 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  My prayers are with the families and all who are involved. This is a parent's worst nightmare; they'll never be the same. There is no "closure".

Young people think all those warnings about drinking & driving (or texting & driving) don't apply to them.

A freshman at NIU died last December from alcohol related hazing. Doubt his parents got much closure. I'm sure there are plenty of other examples out there.


Personally I think hazing is stupid, but if someone wants to haze someone to prove their loyalty or commitment or whatever, then fine. However, if they do it in a way that could harm or kill that person, then ef 'em.

College students chugging beer is not the same as drinking and driving. One doesn't automatically follow the other. If you don't understand that ...

Seniors chugging > Freshmen chugging. They were being pressured to drink a high volume of beer quickly, and haven't been there long enough to recognize their body signs. Plus the whole trying to impress the seniors.

Yes it happens everywhere, but it still was possible unfortunate situation.

Excuse the Ivy League for placing emphasis on academia.

(09-24-2013 09:19 AM)PGPirate Wrote:  

(09-24-2013 06:11 AM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  

(09-23-2013 11:49 PM)TheEastisPurple Wrote:  

(09-23-2013 10:33 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  Shutting down the lacrosse program for a year? Really? Because college students were drinking beer? The wussification of America continues.

Neither drinking alcohol, nor forcing someone else to drink alcohol makes someone manlier or less of a "wuss".

The season wasn't cancelled because kids were drinking alcohol, but because of dangerous hazing practices. Which I would guess would also be a violation of the university's code of conduct. The players should probably be happy they lost a season instead of their college education or, god forbid, a teammate.

I would refer you to what you yourself posted in another thread.

(09-22-2013 04:28 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  My prayers are with the families and all who are involved. This is a parent's worst nightmare; they'll never be the same. There is no "closure".

Young people think all those warnings about drinking & driving (or texting & driving) don't apply to them.

A freshman at NIU died last December from alcohol related hazing. Doubt his parents got much closure. I'm sure there are plenty of other examples out there.


Personally I think hazing is stupid, but if someone wants to haze someone to prove their loyalty or commitment or whatever, then fine. However, if they do it in a way that could harm or kill that person, then ef 'em.

College students chugging beer is not the same as drinking and driving. One doesn't automatically follow the other. If you don't understand that ...

Seniors chugging > Freshmen chugging. They were being pressured to drink a high volume of beer quickly, and haven't been there long enough to recognize their body signs. Plus the whole trying to impress the seniors.

Yes it happens everywhere, but it still was possible unfortunate situation.

Nevermind the fact these kids aren't 21 either, thus it was not only dangerous, but illegal. Yes, I know college students drink, that doesn't mean it's ok. And for the record, I have a DUI in my permanent file. I was a high volume drinker until that little wake-up call, so when I take the moral high ground here it's because I know where they are since I've been there.

(09-24-2013 06:11 AM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  

(09-23-2013 11:49 PM)TheEastisPurple Wrote:  

(09-23-2013 10:33 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  Shutting down the lacrosse program for a year? Really? Because college students were drinking beer? The wussification of America continues.

Neither drinking alcohol, nor forcing someone else to drink alcohol makes someone manlier or less of a "wuss".

The season wasn't cancelled because kids were drinking alcohol, but because of dangerous hazing practices. Which I would guess would also be a violation of the university's code of conduct. The players should probably be happy they lost a season instead of their college education or, god forbid, a teammate.

I would refer you to what you yourself posted in another thread.

(09-22-2013 04:28 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  My prayers are with the families and all who are involved. This is a parent's worst nightmare; they'll never be the same. There is no "closure".

Young people think all those warnings about drinking & driving (or texting & driving) don't apply to them.

A freshman at NIU died last December from alcohol related hazing. Doubt his parents got much closure. I'm sure there are plenty of other examples out there.


Personally I think hazing is stupid, but if someone wants to haze someone to prove their loyalty or commitment or whatever, then fine. However, if they do it in a way that could harm or kill that person, then ef 'em.

College students chugging beer is not the same as drinking and driving. One doesn't automatically follow the other. If you don't understand that ...

Right because drunk driving is the only alcohol related death out there.

Ivy league wussy cornell lacrosse

just minor league stuff. before LSU game

SEC style- Auburn Lacrosse player steals truck, kidnaps woman, hits 9 cars

he was forced to eat corndogs while in custody

(09-24-2013 09:53 AM)Lord2FLI Wrote:  

(09-24-2013 09:19 AM)PGPirate Wrote:  

(09-24-2013 06:11 AM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  

(09-23-2013 11:49 PM)TheEastisPurple Wrote:  

(09-23-2013 10:33 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  Shutting down the lacrosse program for a year? Really? Because college students were drinking beer? The wussification of America continues.

Neither drinking alcohol, nor forcing someone else to drink alcohol makes someone manlier or less of a "wuss".

The season wasn't cancelled because kids were drinking alcohol, but because of dangerous hazing practices. Which I would guess would also be a violation of the university's code of conduct. The players should probably be happy they lost a season instead of their college education or, god forbid, a teammate.

I would refer you to what you yourself posted in another thread.

(09-22-2013 04:28 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  My prayers are with the families and all who are involved. This is a parent's worst nightmare; they'll never be the same. There is no "closure".

Young people think all those warnings about drinking & driving (or texting & driving) don't apply to them.

A freshman at NIU died last December from alcohol related hazing. Doubt his parents got much closure. I'm sure there are plenty of other examples out there.


Personally I think hazing is stupid, but if someone wants to haze someone to prove their loyalty or commitment or whatever, then fine. However, if they do it in a way that could harm or kill that person, then ef 'em.

College students chugging beer is not the same as drinking and driving. One doesn't automatically follow the other. If you don't understand that ...

Seniors chugging > Freshmen chugging. They were being pressured to drink a high volume of beer quickly, and haven't been there long enough to recognize their body signs. Plus the whole trying to impress the seniors.

Yes it happens everywhere, but it still was possible unfortunate situation.

Nevermind the fact these kids aren't 21 either, thus it was not only dangerous, but illegal. Yes, I know college students drink, that doesn't mean it's ok. And for the record, I have a DUI in my permanent file. I was a high volume drinker until that little wake-up call, so when I take the moral high ground here it's because I know where they are since I've been there.

The only difference between you and the vast, vast majority of us is that you happened to get pulled over. Most of us have been guilty at some point in our lives but we were fortunate not to have the blue light behind us.

Hazing, however is a whole different exercise . Good natured "initiation" isn't a bad thing, but when it reaches the stage the it's referred to as "hazing", it's probably outlived any positives that can come from it.

Call it wussification or just plain common sense; I don't care.