(10-04-2013 11:03 PM)ruowls Wrote:  A bad play call is one that basically has a low probability for success due to alignment and assignment of the opponent.

Exactly.

And without the information regarding those factors, it is difficult if not impossible to say that a particular play call is good or bad.

A good play call is one that works, a bad play call is one that doesn't. If I have enough talent and execute well enough, I can make even an otherwise bad call work by simply out-athleting people at the point of attack. Therefore, the more talent I have, and the better I execute, the more potential good plays, and the fewer potential bad plays I have. I may get away with a play that is structurally bad for a particular defense because of execution--in your running play example, I may not have enough blockers at the point of attack, but my lead blocker may find a way to put two people on the ground or my back my find away to evade tacklers and make the play work anyway. On the flip side, I may have the perfect call for the defense but simply fail to execute it--my receiver is wide open but my QB throws the ball straight to the DB. So execution can cause a good play call to fail or a bad play call to succeed. That's why coaches love great players--they take a lot of heat off.

We need better schemes and better execution. Then we would have more opportunities for better play calls.

(10-04-2013 11:47 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(10-04-2013 11:03 PM)ruowls Wrote:  A bad play call is one that basically has a low probability for success due to alignment and assignment of the opponent.

Exactly.

And without the information regarding those factors, it is difficult if not impossible to say that a particular play call is good or bad.

A good play call is one that works, a bad play call is one that doesn't. If I have enough talent and execute well enough, I can make even an otherwise bad call work by simply out-athleting people at the point of attack. Therefore, the more talent I have, and the better I execute, the more potential good plays, and the fewer potential bad plays I have. I may get away with a play that is structurally bad for a particular defense because of execution--in your running play example, I may not have enough blockers at the point of attack, but my lead blocker may find a way to put two people on the ground or my back my find away to evade tacklers and make the play work anyway. On the flip side, I may have the perfect call for the defense but simply fail to execute it--my receiver is wide open but my QB throws the ball straight to the DB. So execution can cause a good play call to fail or a bad play call to succeed. That's why coaches love great players--they take a lot of heat off.

We need better schemes and better execution. Then we would have more opportunities for better play calls.

That about sums it up

(10-04-2013 11:30 AM)owl40 Wrote:  Imagine if DB would have done what Rhodes did last night in same situation and what would be going on the Parliament today....ouch.. Terrible coaching there..

But DB did have a situation against FAU that was similar in many respects, and made a different decision, and won. And still got ripped on here.

Bottom line--DB made the right decision and won, Rhodes made the wrong decision and lost.

The really bad decision was the pass on 3rd down. That's just mind-boggling. That an offensive coordinator trying to pull a rabbit out of the hat instead of doing what is necessary to win the game. 3rd and 3 there, you go with your best run on 3rd down and then come back with your best play on 4th down.