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RE: CraftBeer recognizes UAB as 'obsessed'
(09-17-2013 08:29 AM)Puff Wrote:  
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(09-16-2013 10:38 PM)demiveeman Wrote:  I've had a couple British IPA's that have been decent...but American IPA's are pretty much universally trash from my experience. It's as if all these Craft Brewers are like, "Hey..you know what would be great? Let's throw 3 times as much hops as there needs to be in here because, you know...HOPS! Yeah, that's a great idea!"

I essentially agreed with you earlier in the thread when I wrote,

"...while I appreciate hoppy beers, and am proud of our local breweries. I appreciate the sweeter, maltier, darker styles as well, and agree that there is too much emphasis on super hoppy brews in the American craft beer movement. It's as if they're all trying to out hop each other. The super hoppy varieties are just too bitter to be true "session" beers, and I get to craving something more subtle and ibalanced."

...so I get where you're coming from in terms of overemphasis on hops in the American craft beer movement, but higher hop bitterness is what makes an IPA an IPA. It typifies the style. If you don't like a hoppy beer, don't order an IPA. I truly enjoy an IPA, but generally not more than one. After that, I'll move on to ambers, porters, stouts, and yes, good lagers. The mass market lagers are universally pretty horrible, so I personally would like to see more full flavored craft lagers that have better body, but also acknowledge that ales are simply easier to make for the smaller brewer. More black lagers and porters on the market would also be a good antidote to the overly hopped IPAs.
Very good post. Somewhere along the lines America started defining craft as an IPA when nothing could be further from the truth. A Truck Stop Honey is just as craft as a Snakehandler.

I agree. And as I said, some of the craft beers have been decent...but most of the ones people rave about in the Birmingham area as being the revolution are all crappy, hoppy, IPAs. Obviously I illustrated IPA's because of this, but most of the beers I've had are overall too hoppy, regardless if they are supposed to be or not (IPA or non-IPA).

I should have prefaced this by saying my beer of choice is room temperature Newcastle...if that says something about me as a beer drinker. Second would be a properly poured, cold Guinness.
09-17-2013 09:44 AM
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RE: CraftBeer recognizes UAB as 'obsessed'
(09-17-2013 09:44 AM)demiveeman Wrote:  
(09-17-2013 08:29 AM)Puff Wrote:  
(09-17-2013 07:34 AM)DragonClaw Wrote:  
(09-16-2013 10:38 PM)demiveeman Wrote:  I've had a couple British IPA's that have been decent...but American IPA's are pretty much universally trash from my experience. It's as if all these Craft Brewers are like, "Hey..you know what would be great? Let's throw 3 times as much hops as there needs to be in here because, you know...HOPS! Yeah, that's a great idea!"

I essentially agreed with you earlier in the thread when I wrote,

"...while I appreciate hoppy beers, and am proud of our local breweries. I appreciate the sweeter, maltier, darker styles as well, and agree that there is too much emphasis on super hoppy brews in the American craft beer movement. It's as if they're all trying to out hop each other. The super hoppy varieties are just too bitter to be true "session" beers, and I get to craving something more subtle and ibalanced."

...so I get where you're coming from in terms of overemphasis on hops in the American craft beer movement, but higher hop bitterness is what makes an IPA an IPA. It typifies the style. If you don't like a hoppy beer, don't order an IPA. I truly enjoy an IPA, but generally not more than one. After that, I'll move on to ambers, porters, stouts, and yes, good lagers. The mass market lagers are universally pretty horrible, so I personally would like to see more full flavored craft lagers that have better body, but also acknowledge that ales are simply easier to make for the smaller brewer. More black lagers and porters on the market would also be a good antidote to the overly hopped IPAs.
Very good post. Somewhere along the lines America started defining craft as an IPA when nothing could be further from the truth. A Truck Stop Honey is just as craft as a Snakehandler.

I agree. And as I said, some of the craft beers have been decent...but most of the ones people rave about in the Birmingham area as being the revolution are all crappy, hoppy, IPAs. Obviously I illustrated IPA's because of this, but most of the beers I've had are overall too hoppy, regardless if they are supposed to be or not (IPA or non-IPA).

I should have prefaced this by saying my beer of choice is room temperature Newcastle...if that says something about me as a beer drinker. Second would be a properly poured, cold Guinness.

I hear you that many of the American Pale Ales (not IPAs) are also often too strong on the hops, and I'd include the Good People Pale Ale among them. I like it, but it does tend toward the bitter side of the Pale Ale spectrum, though I don't have the IBU numbers at hand for a true comparison.

It is a matter of taste, however.

It's all good.

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09-17-2013 10:16 AM
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RE: CraftBeer recognizes UAB as 'obsessed'
(09-17-2013 09:44 AM)demiveeman Wrote:  
(09-17-2013 08:29 AM)Puff Wrote:  
(09-17-2013 07:34 AM)DragonClaw Wrote:  
(09-16-2013 10:38 PM)demiveeman Wrote:  I've had a couple British IPA's that have been decent...but American IPA's are pretty much universally trash from my experience. It's as if all these Craft Brewers are like, "Hey..you know what would be great? Let's throw 3 times as much hops as there needs to be in here because, you know...HOPS! Yeah, that's a great idea!"

I essentially agreed with you earlier in the thread when I wrote,

"...while I appreciate hoppy beers, and am proud of our local breweries. I appreciate the sweeter, maltier, darker styles as well, and agree that there is too much emphasis on super hoppy brews in the American craft beer movement. It's as if they're all trying to out hop each other. The super hoppy varieties are just too bitter to be true "session" beers, and I get to craving something more subtle and ibalanced."

...so I get where you're coming from in terms of overemphasis on hops in the American craft beer movement, but higher hop bitterness is what makes an IPA an IPA. It typifies the style. If you don't like a hoppy beer, don't order an IPA. I truly enjoy an IPA, but generally not more than one. After that, I'll move on to ambers, porters, stouts, and yes, good lagers. The mass market lagers are universally pretty horrible, so I personally would like to see more full flavored craft lagers that have better body, but also acknowledge that ales are simply easier to make for the smaller brewer. More black lagers and porters on the market would also be a good antidote to the overly hopped IPAs.
Very good post. Somewhere along the lines America started defining craft as an IPA when nothing could be further from the truth. A Truck Stop Honey is just as craft as a Snakehandler.

I agree. And as I said, some of the craft beers have been decent...but most of the ones people rave about in the Birmingham area as being the revolution are all crappy, hoppy, IPAs. Obviously I illustrated IPA's because of this, but most of the beers I've had are overall too hoppy, regardless if they are supposed to be or not (IPA or non-IPA).

I should have prefaced this by saying my beer of choice is room temperature Newcastle...if that says something about me as a beer drinker. Second would be a properly poured, cold Guinness.

Hey, that's cool. A Newcastle is one of my go-to's and I live for the day that I'll be able to enjoy a Guinness in jolly old England! Forgive me as I jump to defend craft brewing as I are one myself!
09-17-2013 10:20 AM
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RE: CraftBeer recognizes UAB as 'obsessed'
(09-17-2013 09:22 AM)nicknitro19 Wrote:  Kind of off topic but this weekend before the game I will be bottling my Pumpkin Spice Porter that I have made.

You interested in sharing? We've got a Vanilla Porter in secondary right now!
09-17-2013 10:23 AM
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If you like Newcastle (it's delicious), I can't believe you don't like the Vanillaphant.
09-18-2013 11:52 AM
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(09-18-2013 11:52 AM)FNblazer Wrote:  If you like Newcastle (it's delicious), I can't believe you don't like the Vanillaphant.

I might have, if it wasn't served Ice Cold.
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