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RE: NC Central at Charlotte
(09-17-2013 09:37 AM)GreenHornet33 Wrote:  
(09-16-2013 08:21 PM)gsuncc Wrote:  
(09-16-2013 04:04 PM)Maryland Monarch Wrote:  The important thing for any start-up program is to schedule appropriately and get more "W's" than "L's". That's a lesson I think Charlotte learned from ODU, which learned it from CCU and USF. Get the wins and the fanbase will grow. Get your teeth knocked in like GSU and listen to the crickets chirp.

Don't take a long walk on a short pier yet. Everybody has set backs. I think we lost to Jacksonville U our first year and they're an FCS nobody.

GSU had a winning season in year one; it was year two and a poor recruiting effort that contributed to its problems.

The schedule also got significantly harder. Year one featured NAIA schools, a few D2 programs, non-scholarship FCS teams, a school transitioning from D2 to FCS, a few start-ups, Jacksonville State(which was a good win), Savannah State, and Alabama.

I was responding to the idea that GSU got its teeth knocked in during the first season, which was not the case if only looking at W's and L's. GSU's problems became starkly apparent during year two, when the schedule became harder and year three when the HC announced his retirement on the eve of the season, going into a tough conference schedule, and the poor recruiting revealed how poor of a job that staff did bringing in players. Not denying that GSU has made many mistakes, but year one wasn't one of them (from a football perspective).
09-17-2013 10:32 AM
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RE: NC Central at Charlotte
(09-14-2013 09:32 PM)IceJus10 Wrote:  UGLY game... difference was the QB... their QB wiggled out of a dozen big loss sacks and our QB doesn't look comfortable moving and was playing hot potato with the ball even when there was no pressure and he threw it away again and again... so many interceptions even when there wasn't a sole in green around to receive... UGH - it was frustrating as a fan, because we moved the ball on them a lot, got a lot of first downs, just dumb mistakes --- oh and TACKLE SOMEONE!

That is all, back to my drinking! lol

I heard a rumor from another guy in my section (lots of players families do sit near us, so take it how you will) that Johnson was playing with an inner ear infection.

If that was the case, then it would certainly explain a lot of the problem... kind of hard to be comfortable at QB on a moving field.

I also think that playing vastly inferior competition two weeks in a row before making a big jump in the speed and size of the opposition played a role as well. Game one, you know it's a cupcake. Game two, and you're starting to become comfortable with your opponents and carry that mindset into the next game.
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RE: NC Central at Charlotte
(09-17-2013 11:36 AM)49erlew Wrote:  I heard a rumor from another guy in my section (lots of players families do sit near us, so take it how you will) that Johnson was playing with an inner ear infection.

If that was the case, then it would certainly explain a lot of the problem... kind of hard to be comfortable at QB on a moving field.

I also think that playing vastly inferior competition two weeks in a row before making a big jump in the speed and size of the opposition played a role as well. Game one, you know it's a cupcake. Game two, and you're starting to become comfortable with your opponents and carry that mindset into the next game.

I'm not upset we took a lump, I knew it would come, we're a start-up program... what is disturbing of your suggestion is if someone is injured/sick/inner ear (whatever), that we didn't try someone else during the game... I mean what would happen if for some reason he's seriously injured!
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RE: NC Central at Charlotte
(09-17-2013 11:45 AM)IceJus10 Wrote:  
(09-17-2013 11:36 AM)49erlew Wrote:  I heard a rumor from another guy in my section (lots of players families do sit near us, so take it how you will) that Johnson was playing with an inner ear infection.

If that was the case, then it would certainly explain a lot of the problem... kind of hard to be comfortable at QB on a moving field.

I also think that playing vastly inferior competition two weeks in a row before making a big jump in the speed and size of the opposition played a role as well. Game one, you know it's a cupcake. Game two, and you're starting to become comfortable with your opponents and carry that mindset into the next game.

I'm not upset we took a lump, I knew it would come, we're a start-up program... what is disturbing of your suggestion is if someone is injured/sick/inner ear (whatever), that we didn't try someone else during the game... I mean what would happen if for some reason he's seriously injured!

Guys play through illness all the time. An illness that would effect a guys performance will not necessarily increase his susceptibility to injury.

I really think it came down to ensuring that our #1 QB got the reps. In our position, I'd rather a sick Matt Johnson get those reps over a healthy Lee McNeil. I'm sure McNeil could have done a better job out there (assuming that Johnson was indeed sick), but that game experience very well could pay off in the long run.
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RE: NC Central at Charlotte
(09-17-2013 02:22 PM)49erlew Wrote:  
(09-17-2013 11:45 AM)IceJus10 Wrote:  
(09-17-2013 11:36 AM)49erlew Wrote:  I heard a rumor from another guy in my section (lots of players families do sit near us, so take it how you will) that Johnson was playing with an inner ear infection.

If that was the case, then it would certainly explain a lot of the problem... kind of hard to be comfortable at QB on a moving field.

I also think that playing vastly inferior competition two weeks in a row before making a big jump in the speed and size of the opposition played a role as well. Game one, you know it's a cupcake. Game two, and you're starting to become comfortable with your opponents and carry that mindset into the next game.

I'm not upset we took a lump, I knew it would come, we're a start-up program... what is disturbing of your suggestion is if someone is injured/sick/inner ear (whatever), that we didn't try someone else during the game... I mean what would happen if for some reason he's seriously injured!

Guys play through illness all the time. An illness that would effect a guys performance will not necessarily increase his susceptibility to injury.

I really think it came down to ensuring that our #1 QB got the reps. In our position, I'd rather a sick Matt Johnson get those reps over a healthy Lee McNeil. I'm sure McNeil could have done a better job out there (assuming that Johnson was indeed sick), but that game experience very well could pay off in the long run.

Watched the game later and while Matt made mistakes, I reminded myself that it's only his third game. Mistakes will happen, particularly with a very young team. Lambert warned about the letdown for the second game, just came in the third. Key will be, do they learn from their mistakes. I think they will. Does that mean a W against JMU, I'd be surprised, but I won't be at all surprised if they play much better and clean up the penalties, etc.
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RE: NC Central at Charlotte
(09-17-2013 04:07 PM)gsuncc Wrote:  
(09-17-2013 02:22 PM)49erlew Wrote:  
(09-17-2013 11:45 AM)IceJus10 Wrote:  
(09-17-2013 11:36 AM)49erlew Wrote:  I heard a rumor from another guy in my section (lots of players families do sit near us, so take it how you will) that Johnson was playing with an inner ear infection.

If that was the case, then it would certainly explain a lot of the problem... kind of hard to be comfortable at QB on a moving field.

I also think that playing vastly inferior competition two weeks in a row before making a big jump in the speed and size of the opposition played a role as well. Game one, you know it's a cupcake. Game two, and you're starting to become comfortable with your opponents and carry that mindset into the next game.

I'm not upset we took a lump, I knew it would come, we're a start-up program... what is disturbing of your suggestion is if someone is injured/sick/inner ear (whatever), that we didn't try someone else during the game... I mean what would happen if for some reason he's seriously injured!

Guys play through illness all the time. An illness that would effect a guys performance will not necessarily increase his susceptibility to injury.

I really think it came down to ensuring that our #1 QB got the reps. In our position, I'd rather a sick Matt Johnson get those reps over a healthy Lee McNeil. I'm sure McNeil could have done a better job out there (assuming that Johnson was indeed sick), but that game experience very well could pay off in the long run.

Watched the game later and while Matt made mistakes, I reminded myself that it's only his third game. Mistakes will happen, particularly with a very young team. Lambert warned about the letdown for the second game, just came in the third. Key will be, do they learn from their mistakes. I think they will. Does that mean a W against JMU, I'd be surprised, but I won't be at all surprised if they play much better and clean up the penalties, etc.

I expect them to learn from their mistakes, but don't think that will equal a victory at JMU. Kind of hard for a bunch of freshman and sophmores not to get big heads after destroying their first two opponents. This team is just starting out and has much to improve on. I hope we keep the game against JMU respectable, at least.
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RE: NC Central at Charlotte
(09-17-2013 04:07 PM)gsuncc Wrote:  
(09-17-2013 02:22 PM)49erlew Wrote:  
(09-17-2013 11:45 AM)IceJus10 Wrote:  
(09-17-2013 11:36 AM)49erlew Wrote:  I heard a rumor from another guy in my section (lots of players families do sit near us, so take it how you will) that Johnson was playing with an inner ear infection.

If that was the case, then it would certainly explain a lot of the problem... kind of hard to be comfortable at QB on a moving field.

I also think that playing vastly inferior competition two weeks in a row before making a big jump in the speed and size of the opposition played a role as well. Game one, you know it's a cupcake. Game two, and you're starting to become comfortable with your opponents and carry that mindset into the next game.

I'm not upset we took a lump, I knew it would come, we're a start-up program... what is disturbing of your suggestion is if someone is injured/sick/inner ear (whatever), that we didn't try someone else during the game... I mean what would happen if for some reason he's seriously injured!

Guys play through illness all the time. An illness that would effect a guys performance will not necessarily increase his susceptibility to injury.

I really think it came down to ensuring that our #1 QB got the reps. In our position, I'd rather a sick Matt Johnson get those reps over a healthy Lee McNeil. I'm sure McNeil could have done a better job out there (assuming that Johnson was indeed sick), but that game experience very well could pay off in the long run.

Watched the game later and while Matt made mistakes, I reminded myself that it's only his third game. Mistakes will happen, particularly with a very young team. Lambert warned about the letdown for the second game, just came in the third. Key will be, do they learn from their mistakes. I think they will. Does that mean a W against JMU, I'd be surprised, but I won't be at all surprised if they play much better and clean up the penalties, etc.

It was also his third game action in two seasons. He will struggle.
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RE: NC Central at Charlotte
(09-18-2013 07:42 AM)Tintin Wrote:  
(09-17-2013 04:07 PM)gsuncc Wrote:  
(09-17-2013 02:22 PM)49erlew Wrote:  
(09-17-2013 11:45 AM)IceJus10 Wrote:  
(09-17-2013 11:36 AM)49erlew Wrote:  I heard a rumor from another guy in my section (lots of players families do sit near us, so take it how you will) that Johnson was playing with an inner ear infection.

If that was the case, then it would certainly explain a lot of the problem... kind of hard to be comfortable at QB on a moving field.

I also think that playing vastly inferior competition two weeks in a row before making a big jump in the speed and size of the opposition played a role as well. Game one, you know it's a cupcake. Game two, and you're starting to become comfortable with your opponents and carry that mindset into the next game.

I'm not upset we took a lump, I knew it would come, we're a start-up program... what is disturbing of your suggestion is if someone is injured/sick/inner ear (whatever), that we didn't try someone else during the game... I mean what would happen if for some reason he's seriously injured!

Guys play through illness all the time. An illness that would effect a guys performance will not necessarily increase his susceptibility to injury.

I really think it came down to ensuring that our #1 QB got the reps. In our position, I'd rather a sick Matt Johnson get those reps over a healthy Lee McNeil. I'm sure McNeil could have done a better job out there (assuming that Johnson was indeed sick), but that game experience very well could pay off in the long run.

Watched the game later and while Matt made mistakes, I reminded myself that it's only his third game. Mistakes will happen, particularly with a very young team. Lambert warned about the letdown for the second game, just came in the third. Key will be, do they learn from their mistakes. I think they will. Does that mean a W against JMU, I'd be surprised, but I won't be at all surprised if they play much better and clean up the penalties, etc.

It was also his third game action in two seasons. He will struggle.

Agreed, he will struggle, but he will also learn and that's key. JMU will be fun to watch regardless of the score.
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