(09-24-2013 12:13 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(09-24-2013 12:45 AM)randaddyminer Wrote:  Plain and simple... the 4 bball schools do not get in every year, and very rarely will any other school get in

Disagree. 3 will be a bad year for the AAC, 4 will probably be the norm, and 5 is possible in good years. I could also see exceptionally bad years with 2 and exceptionally good years with 6.

I think CUSA will see 1 in bad years, 2 in normal years, and 3 in exceptionally good years. CUSA would really benefit for putting scheduling requirements in place designed to raise the RPI of the league as a whole. It worked for the A10 and CUSA needs to do the same if it wants to be respected as a basketball conference.

Having teams like NT and ECU with 4+ DII games is a joke.

FWIW, the move to the AAC put the kibosh on the D2's for ECU. Thank goodness.

(09-25-2013 04:54 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(09-25-2013 04:41 PM)randaddyminer Wrote:  

(09-25-2013 04:14 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(09-25-2013 04:09 PM)randaddyminer Wrote:  By the way, Cinci came in at 47 in the rankings you referenced and it looks as if they are one of the last 4 in

yeah but key word there.... in....

yup, that gives the future aac 3 teams. Kind of blows your theory away of Cusa only getting in 1 team in if you believe that the aac gets more than 3

Cusa

77. USM
66. La tech
61. Charlotte
54. UTEP

AAC

75. Houston
72. Temple
64. SMU
47. Cinci

If those 4 aac teams are good enough for 2 at large bids, then those 4 Cusa teams are good enough for at least 1 at large bid.

The 4 AAC teams have a much stronger chance at an extra at large bid because of their schedule in conference play.

you better tell somebody! Because not only having the top team in the country on your conference slate only warrants a 3rd team getting in, it only gets them into the last four projection

Just sticky this thread for four years and then come back. As of now we can only speculate. I do predict the American bottom teams elevate to compliment the top. Maybe the big east will fall off and we can pick up some of their old recruits. We've already got two alone without moving yet. As of now they still have good recruits but these great new recruits that Ucf, smu, uh, ecu, tulsa, usf and whoever I'm forgetting have to be coming from somewhere.

The biggest upside to me of all of our metro teams is rich recruiting grounds.

(09-25-2013 05:05 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(09-24-2013 12:13 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(09-24-2013 12:45 AM)randaddyminer Wrote:  Plain and simple... the 4 bball schools do not get in every year, and very rarely will any other school get in

Disagree. 3 will be a bad year for the AAC, 4 will probably be the norm, and 5 is possible in good years. I could also see exceptionally bad years with 2 and exceptionally good years with 6.

I think CUSA will see 1 in bad years, 2 in normal years, and 3 in exceptionally good years. CUSA would really benefit for putting scheduling requirements in place designed to raise the RPI of the league as a whole. It worked for the A10 and CUSA needs to do the same if it wants to be respected as a basketball conference.

Having teams like NT and ECU with 4+ DII games is a joke.

FWIW, the move to the AAC put the kibosh on the D2's for ECU. Thank goodness.

I'm sure it will. I wasn't picking on ECU to be a douche or anything, I just think you guys have the second most (or maybe most) non-D1 games in CUSA this year.

In total, I bet CUSA has 30-40 games against non-D1 opponents this year. I think Charlotte and ODU might be the only two schools not playing D2/NAIA schools.

They need to put a stop to it.

Was looking at Ken-Pom's initial ratings..

defintely see where the ESPN-9 comes from:
1 Big Ten .8393
2 Big East .8159
3 ACC .8015
4 AAC .7694
5 P12 .7689
6 B12 .7633
7 SEC .7499
8 A10 .6877
9 MWC .6335

next after that is the WCC at .6164. Then a gap to MVC at .5646. Then a gap to the.... Horizon at .4971. CUSA is 13th down at .4866

He's got 4 CUSA teams in the top 100- but with UTEP at 67th as the best.

I was hoping you'd bump this thread back up... Did you see the latest polls?

yeah. AAC with 4 teams getting votes. CUSA with none.

it'll be a lot easier for AAC to get a 5th team in than CUSA to get 2.

Heck UTEP at 67- that'd be them getting a 13 seed or so- maybe even 14 depending on how things roll.

(09-10-2013 09:37 AM)stever20 Wrote:  looks like ESPN has kind of annointed 9 leagues as the top leagues...

A10
ACC
American
Big East
Big Ten
Big 12
MWC
Pac 12
SEC

I don't think anyone can really argue with any of these 9. In fact, the only 2 that could have even a realistic shot at a 2nd team in the tourney outside those 9 are the WCC and MVC. I think we're going to start seeing fewer and fewer at larges coming out of the non top 9 leagues. It's possible this year to see no at larges out of those 9 leagues.

This year the top 9 conferences could easily have 45/68 bids. Keep in mind they have 108 schools. The other 23 conferences would have 23 bids. They have 242 schools.

No, you cannot argue that these are not the Top 9 basketball conferences. A question for you, however, did ESPN give them in Alpha Order or did you put them in Alpha Order?

both. I put in alpha order when ESPN was doing the OOC schedule analysis. But other places on the site- it's alphabetical...

(11-01-2013 02:05 PM)stever20 Wrote:  Was looking at Ken-Pom's initial ratings..

defintely see where the ESPN-9 comes from:
1 Big Ten .8393
2 Big East .8159
3 ACC .8015
4 AAC .7694
5 P12 .7689
6 B12 .7633
7 SEC .7499
8 A10 .6877
9 MWC .6335

next after that is the WCC at .6164. Then a gap to MVC at .5646. Then a gap to the.... Horizon at .4971. CUSA is 13th down at .4866

He's got 4 CUSA teams in the top 100- but with UTEP at 67th as the best.

The National Champions in each conference, I have put Louisville in the ACC and Maryland in the Big.

1 Big Ten .8393 ( Indiana, Wisconsin, Ohio State, Michigan State, Michigan, Maryland) 6
2 Big East .8159 (Marquette, Georgetown, Villanova) 3
3. ACC .8015 (North Carolina, North Carolina State, Duke, Louisville, Syracuse) 5
4 AAC .7694 (Cincinnati, Connecticut) 2
5 P12 .7689(Oregon, Stanford, Utah, California, UCLA, Arizona) 6
6 B12 .7633 (Oklahoma State, Kansas) 2
7 SEC .7499 (Kentucky, Arkansas, Florida) 3
8 A10 .6877 (La Salle) 1
9 MWC .6335 (Wyoming) 1

(11-01-2013 02:30 PM)stever20 Wrote:  yeah. AAC with 4 teams getting votes. CUSA with none.

it'll be a lot easier for AAC to get a 5th team in than CUSA to get 2.

Heck UTEP at 67- that'd be them getting a 13 seed or so- maybe even 14 depending on how things roll.

I was thinking more along the lines of the future aac getting only 2 teams ranked (memphis and Uconn), and one other team (cinci) getting 1 vote. Two to three bids most of the time in the future, I told you so.

and I told you that CUSA will be a 1 bid conference pretty much all the time. With them getting no votes and top team at 67- that's pretty much a lock.

I guess we were both right

It's a whole hell of a lot easier getting another team in the tournament for the AAC than the CUSA. SOS being as important as it is. With the recruiting class that SMU has they should be tourney bound next year as well as Temple should be back.

You have your opinion, and although, the info you argue doesn't bolster your argument, only time will tell.