(09-10-2013 08:09 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(09-08-2013 02:34 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  His play calling yesterday was too predictable.
Our offensive didn't run that many plays....and when they did I could see them coming from a mile away.
We called that same screen pass like 5-7 times yesterday. I was having bad Clay Helton flashbacks from Tommy West's tenure.

I sit behind our bench & unless I'm mistaken our head coach calls the offensive plays. There may be some communication with Dickey but Fuente has the play sheet and is calling the plays.

I wanted a more open offense too but even though our QB was on the money with most all of his passes we didn't have receivers who could get separation or catch balls thrown right in their hands. And we have to make the run a threat in order to be able to have time to pass. Add to that that our defense could not stop Duke on 3rd down over and over. It all plays together. But we will improve and we aren't turning the ball over. Hopefully this week we will show that we can sustain a drive and get some stops. That alone will provide for success and wins.

I like the offensive scheme and can see what he is trying to accomplish with the play calling. I don't have any complaints other than our running game is getting stuffed up the middle.

We attempted to get some speed guys on the corners but Warford couldn't get his hands on those tosses, whoever's fault it might have been. And those bubble screens will work once the wide receivers get over their funk. After football season last year I went back and watched TCU's Rose Bowl replay and Fuente's play calling was impressive.

(09-10-2013 08:51 AM)Tiger46 Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 08:09 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(09-08-2013 02:34 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  His play calling yesterday was too predictable.
Our offensive didn't run that many plays....and when they did I could see them coming from a mile away.
We called that same screen pass like 5-7 times yesterday. I was having bad Clay Helton flashbacks from Tommy West's tenure.

I sit behind our bench & unless I'm mistaken our head coach calls the offensive plays. There may be some communication with Dickey but Fuente has the play sheet and is calling the plays.

I wanted a more open offense too but even though our QB was on the money with most all of his passes we didn't have receivers who could get separation or catch balls thrown right in their hands. And we have to make the run a threat in order to be able to have time to pass. Add to that that our defense could not stop Duke on 3rd down over and over. It all plays together. But we will improve and we aren't turning the ball over. Hopefully this week we will show that we can sustain a drive and get some stops. That alone will provide for success and wins.

I like the offensive scheme and can see what he is trying to accomplish with the play calling. I don't have any complaints other than our running game is getting stuffed up the middle.

We attempted to get some speed guys on the corners but Warford couldn't get his hands on those tosses, whoever's fault it might have been. And those bubble screens will work once the wide receivers get over their funk. After football season last year I went back and watched TCU's Rose Bowl replay and Fuente's play calling was impressive.

Sometimes when you cannot run the ball like that...you have to take a West Coast offense approach. Small dump passes to wideouts or running backs. If they can make the first person miss...you can gain 'running' type yards that way. We know it works....San Francisco (Bill Walton's version & Steve Marriucci)....and every other West Coast offense team has proven that it does.

(09-08-2013 02:34 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  We called that same screen pass like 5-7 times yesterday. I was having bad Clay Helton flashbacks from Tommy West's tenure.

(09-08-2013 05:01 PM)Sheldon Cooper Wrote:  

(09-08-2013 04:49 PM)TigerSeth Wrote:  

(09-08-2013 04:37 PM)Sheldon Cooper Wrote:  

(09-08-2013 04:30 PM)TigerSeth Wrote:  

(09-08-2013 04:27 PM)Sheldon Cooper Wrote:  As a fan of the Tigers, you are expected to know the names of every coach, the number and name of every player, the name and number of stars that every recruit that MIGHT think about visiting the Tigers. If you don't have that in your memory bank, you are not a true fan. For the rest of that actually have a life and other responsibilities, we will just have to be outcasts.

Aren't you the guy to cheap to buy Kroger tix?

Nope, bought my usual season tickets, didn't need to do the Kroger. But since you need a history lesson, my concern was for all the families that are down on their luck due to this fine economy we are presented with. Life is great in my home right now, finances are in excellent shape, but many hard working people are either unemployed or underemployed right now and they might not have the funds to buy Tiger tickets right now. Then again, many that can't afford food or clothing are buying season tickets. Then others are too lazy to work and too lazy to look for work. Does that description fit you?

So you know people that can't feed or clothe themselves, but spring for season tix? I'd say they made it pretty easy on struggling families to attend the game. What's your complaint?

No that description doesn't fit me....I work too much.

I bet Waffle House keeps you mighty busy.

Why would someone talk about people who are unemployed, underemployed, too lazy to work and too lazy to look for work turn around and make a joke about working at Waffle House?
Does it matter where they work as long as it is honest work? Are you above fast food workers, garbage collectors, street sweepers? Is it a bad thing to be a greeter at Walmart or a stocker at a grocery store?

So Dickey is this years Dubose/Joe Lee?



#scapegoat

(09-10-2013 10:15 AM)rshaw Wrote:  

(09-08-2013 05:01 PM)Sheldon Cooper Wrote:  

(09-08-2013 04:49 PM)TigerSeth Wrote:  

(09-08-2013 04:37 PM)Sheldon Cooper Wrote:  

(09-08-2013 04:30 PM)TigerSeth Wrote:  Aren't you the guy to cheap to buy Kroger tix?

Nope, bought my usual season tickets, didn't need to do the Kroger. But since you need a history lesson, my concern was for all the families that are down on their luck due to this fine economy we are presented with. Life is great in my home right now, finances are in excellent shape, but many hard working people are either unemployed or underemployed right now and they might not have the funds to buy Tiger tickets right now. Then again, many that can't afford food or clothing are buying season tickets. Then others are too lazy to work and too lazy to look for work. Does that description fit you?

So you know people that can't feed or clothe themselves, but spring for season tix? I'd say they made it pretty easy on struggling families to attend the game. What's your complaint?

No that description doesn't fit me....I work too much.

I bet Waffle House keeps you mighty busy.

Why would someone talk about people who are unemployed, underemployed, too lazy to work and too lazy to look for work turn around and make a joke about working at Waffle House?
Does it matter where they work as long as it is honest work? Are you above fast food workers, garbage collectors, street sweepers? Is it a bad thing to be a greeter at Walmart or a stocker at a grocery store?

Lol. I guess you have never heard the term sarcasm. Google it. Goodness gracious.

(09-10-2013 11:10 AM)Sheldon Cooper Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 10:15 AM)rshaw Wrote:  

(09-08-2013 05:01 PM)Sheldon Cooper Wrote:  

(09-08-2013 04:49 PM)TigerSeth Wrote:  

(09-08-2013 04:37 PM)Sheldon Cooper Wrote:  Nope, bought my usual season tickets, didn't need to do the Kroger. But since you need a history lesson, my concern was for all the families that are down on their luck due to this fine economy we are presented with. Life is great in my home right now, finances are in excellent shape, but many hard working people are either unemployed or underemployed right now and they might not have the funds to buy Tiger tickets right now. Then again, many that can't afford food or clothing are buying season tickets. Then others are too lazy to work and too lazy to look for work. Does that description fit you?

So you know people that can't feed or clothe themselves, but spring for season tix? I'd say they made it pretty easy on struggling families to attend the game. What's your complaint?

No that description doesn't fit me....I work too much.

I bet Waffle House keeps you mighty busy.

Why would someone talk about people who are unemployed, underemployed, too lazy to work and too lazy to look for work turn around and make a joke about working at Waffle House?
Does it matter where they work as long as it is honest work? Are you above fast food workers, garbage collectors, street sweepers? Is it a bad thing to be a greeter at Walmart or a stocker at a grocery store?

Lol. I guess you have never heard the term sarcasm. Google it. Goodness gracious.

Interesting

(09-10-2013 10:39 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  So Dickey is this years Dubose/Joe Lee?



#scapegoat

Sometimes it does come down to personnel - Monken from Oklahoma State is having all sorts of problems getting Southern Miss to play up tempo effectively.

That being said - the hiring of Dickey was questionable to me.

If Fuente is calling the plays, then he must not have much faith in the offense.

(09-10-2013 08:57 AM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 08:51 AM)Tiger46 Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 08:09 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(09-08-2013 02:34 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  His play calling yesterday was too predictable.
Our offensive didn't run that many plays....and when they did I could see them coming from a mile away.
We called that same screen pass like 5-7 times yesterday. I was having bad Clay Helton flashbacks from Tommy West's tenure.

I sit behind our bench & unless I'm mistaken our head coach calls the offensive plays. There may be some communication with Dickey but Fuente has the play sheet and is calling the plays.

I wanted a more open offense too but even though our QB was on the money with most all of his passes we didn't have receivers who could get separation or catch balls thrown right in their hands. And we have to make the run a threat in order to be able to have time to pass. Add to that that our defense could not stop Duke on 3rd down over and over. It all plays together. But we will improve and we aren't turning the ball over. Hopefully this week we will show that we can sustain a drive and get some stops. That alone will provide for success and wins.

I like the offensive scheme and can see what he is trying to accomplish with the play calling. I don't have any complaints other than our running game is getting stuffed up the middle.

We attempted to get some speed guys on the corners but Warford couldn't get his hands on those tosses, whoever's fault it might have been. And those bubble screens will work once the wide receivers get over their funk. After football season last year I went back and watched TCU's Rose Bowl replay and Fuente's play calling was impressive.

We know it works....San Francisco (Bill Walton's version & Steve Marriucci)....

Ah yes, I use to love the Bill Walton offense at San Fran. Very innovative.

(09-10-2013 12:56 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  Sometimes it does come down to personnel - Monken from Oklahoma State is having all sorts of problems getting Southern Miss to play up tempo effectively.

That being said - the hiring of Dickey was questionable to me.

If Fuente is calling the plays, then he must not have much faith in the offense.

Or perhaps since he was OC at a much more prolific offense at TCU than Dickey has experience with, he feels it is better for him to call the plays. Ya think?

(09-10-2013 01:35 PM)Herff Tiger Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 12:56 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  Sometimes it does come down to personnel - Monken from Oklahoma State is having all sorts of problems getting Southern Miss to play up tempo effectively.

That being said - the hiring of Dickey was questionable to me.

If Fuente is calling the plays, then he must not have much faith in the offense.

Or perhaps since he was OC at a much more prolific offense at TCU than Dickey has experience with, he feels it is better for him to call the plays. Ya think?

I'm not sure I get your reply.

I don't care who calls the plays.

Touchy, touchy.

lol what

(09-10-2013 02:03 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 01:35 PM)Herff Tiger Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 12:56 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  Sometimes it does come down to personnel - Monken from Oklahoma State is having all sorts of problems getting Southern Miss to play up tempo effectively.

That being said - the hiring of Dickey was questionable to me.

If Fuente is calling the plays, then he must not have much faith in the offense.

Or perhaps since he was OC at a much more prolific offense at TCU than Dickey has experience with, he feels it is better for him to call the plays. Ya think?

I'm not sure I get your reply.

I don't care who calls the plays.

Many head coaches call the offensive plays. Nothing new here & no knock on Dickey.

(09-11-2013 07:02 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 02:03 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 01:35 PM)Herff Tiger Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 12:56 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  Sometimes it does come down to personnel - Monken from Oklahoma State is having all sorts of problems getting Southern Miss to play up tempo effectively.

That being said - the hiring of Dickey was questionable to me.

If Fuente is calling the plays, then he must not have much faith in the offense.

Or perhaps since he was OC at a much more prolific offense at TCU than Dickey has experience with, he feels it is better for him to call the plays. Ya think?

I'm not sure I get your reply.

I don't care who calls the plays.

Many head coaches call the offensive plays. Nothing new here & no knock on Dickey.

Agree - just saying I was skeptical of hiring Dickey - guy is career 42-64 as a head coach and not some wunderkind offensive genius either...on the other end, I was just saying if Fuente is the one calling plays he must not have too much confidence in the offense right now as the playcalling was very vanilla.

(09-11-2013 07:58 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(09-11-2013 07:02 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 02:03 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 01:35 PM)Herff Tiger Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 12:56 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  Sometimes it does come down to personnel - Monken from Oklahoma State is having all sorts of problems getting Southern Miss to play up tempo effectively.

That being said - the hiring of Dickey was questionable to me.

If Fuente is calling the plays, then he must not have much faith in the offense.

Or perhaps since he was OC at a much more prolific offense at TCU than Dickey has experience with, he feels it is better for him to call the plays. Ya think?

I'm not sure I get your reply.

I don't care who calls the plays.

Many head coaches call the offensive plays. Nothing new here & no knock on Dickey.

Agree - just saying I was skeptical of hiring Dickey - guy is career 42-64 as a head coach and not some wunderkind offensive genius either...on the other end, I was just saying if Fuente is the one calling plays he must not have too much confidence in the offense right now as the playcalling was very vanilla.

So if they can't run a vanilla offense, you think they can run a more complicated, high risk offense that requires more skill?

(09-11-2013 08:45 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(09-11-2013 07:58 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(09-11-2013 07:02 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 02:03 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 01:35 PM)Herff Tiger Wrote:  Or perhaps since he was OC at a much more prolific offense at TCU than Dickey has experience with, he feels it is better for him to call the plays. Ya think?

I'm not sure I get your reply.

I don't care who calls the plays.

Many head coaches call the offensive plays. Nothing new here & no knock on Dickey.

Agree - just saying I was skeptical of hiring Dickey - guy is career 42-64 as a head coach and not some wunderkind offensive genius either...on the other end, I was just saying if Fuente is the one calling plays he must not have too much confidence in the offense right now as the playcalling was very vanilla.

So if they can't run a vanilla offense, you think they can run a more complicated, high risk offense that requires more skill?

Excellent point!

Um, no...I just said Fuente must have little confidence in them to be calling such a basic offense, nothing about their capabilities.

He sees them every day and obviously thinks little of enough of their prowess that he limited the playcalling and offensive gameplan.

(09-10-2013 02:03 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 01:35 PM)Herff Tiger Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 12:56 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  Sometimes it does come down to personnel - Monken from Oklahoma State is having all sorts of problems getting Southern Miss to play up tempo effectively.

That being said - the hiring of Dickey was questionable to me.

If Fuente is calling the plays, then he must not have much faith in the offense.

Or perhaps since he was OC at a much more prolific offense at TCU than Dickey has experience with, he feels it is better for him to call the plays. Ya think?

I'm not sure I get your reply.

I don't care who calls the plays.

You're drawing the conclusion that because Fuente is calling the plays it means he doesn't have faith in the offense (i.e., OC Dickey). I pointed out that it is logical and likely that Fuente calling the plays has nothing to do with any supposed level of faith in Dickey. Fuente is the expert in the offense he wants to run, so he choses to run it.

If I remember correctly (and please point out if I'm wrong) Fuente stated when he was hired that he would call the offensive plays. This was before he had hired a single assistant.