One thing I am having a hard time getting past is the timeouts. Here's where you just can't call timeout:

- On a field goal attempt.....WTF?

- After having to decide so long to go for 2 after a TD and then the QB getting sacked and not even have a chance. Birdsong has to do something there. Just throw a lolly pop in the end zone. If they pick it off, so what?

Those situations are really frustrating and that's coaching and lack of preparation. As a coach, you have to have your team prepared to know what to do and you need to make decisions quickly. Mickyisms crack me up but here's something that he would probably say: More time doesn't make you smarter. If you're dumb, you can take all the time you want and still be dumb.

(09-08-2013 12:00 PM)DoubleDDuke Wrote:  One thing I am having a hard time getting past is the timeouts. Here's where you just can't call timeout:

- On a field goal attempt.....WTF?

- After having to decide so long to go for 2 after a TD and then the QB getting sacked and not even have a chance. Birdsong has to do something there. Just throw a lolly pop in the end zone. If they pick it off, so what?

Those situations are really frustrating and that's coaching and lack of preparation. As a coach, you have to have your team prepared to know what to do and you need to make decisions quickly. Mickyisms crack me up but here's something that he would probably say: More time doesn't make you smarter. If you're dumb, you can take all the time you want and still be dumb.

1. we missed the fieldgoal where Mickey called timeout. we got a second chance and made it - to me this seems like a good timeout

2. Akron called the TO on the 2 pt conversion

man, you guys get worked up about stuff that isnt even correct.

its in vogue to bash Mickey, so hell, just make stuff up that didnt even happen

(09-08-2013 12:11 PM)PGJMU Wrote:  

(09-08-2013 12:00 PM)DoubleDDuke Wrote:  One thing I am having a hard time getting past is the timeouts. Here's where you just can't call timeout:

- On a field goal attempt.....WTF?

- After having to decide so long to go for 2 after a TD and then the QB getting sacked and not even have a chance. Birdsong has to do something there. Just throw a lolly pop in the end zone. If they pick it off, so what?

Those situations are really frustrating and that's coaching and lack of preparation. As a coach, you have to have your team prepared to know what to do and you need to make decisions quickly. Mickyisms crack me up but here's something that he would probably say: More time doesn't make you smarter. If you're dumb, you can take all the time you want and still be dumb.

1. we missed the fieldgoal where Mickey called timeout. we got a second chance and made it - to me this seems like a good timeout

2. Akron called the TO on the 2 pt conversion

man, you guys get worked up about stuff that isnt even correct.

its in vogue to bash Mickey, so hell, just make stuff up that didnt even happen

We missed it because we were in a big rush to get the snap and hold down because the staff waited too long to make a decision on whether to go for it or kick the FG. My bad on the 2pt conversion. I thought we called that TO.

everyone is bashing Mickey about clock management.

2nd half

First time out, on the fg. We missed on the attempt, but Mick had called timeout and we got a 2nd try. Mickey was hot about something, not sure what. We make the second kick. Seems like the TO save us 3 points, good timeout

Second time out, 3-6, play clock is running out. We take a time out. Dont convert the 3rd down. Not a great timeout

Third time out - we stop the clock on Akrons possession. Good time out

Sure, you want to have 3 left at the end of the game. But our first save a FG. The second you could argue was a bad use.

That TO that have a second field goal try is not a good timeout. It's a lucky coincidence that it worked out for us. I honestly don't understand how clock & TO management can be such a weakness for Mickey. It's always obvious that you want at least one left for the last drive. If you have to call 3 TOs to get the ball back, then so be it, but that's never something anyone would criticize.

ok, you maybe right on the FG, I didnt remember us rushing out there for the fg, but you could be right.

This thread is a mirror-reflection of the UMassHoops board right now.

(09-08-2013 06:25 AM)Potomac Wrote:  There were many penalties, big plays allowed, etc, but how is losing by 2 and in the situation to win but running out of time while in field goal range "getting your ass handed to you"? Maryland vs odu and Oregon v. UVA was getting their ass handed to them.

Agreed. I saw some good things last night. I was much more concerned about our team after the CCSU game than I am now. We handled them up front, which bodes well for the rest of our season. The offense will only get better. Once we get the rest of our d-line back it will be better too. D. Brown made a big difference, having a big bodied receiver helps MB immensely. Scott ran with more authority at times too. It will not be easy, but we have the talent to run the table. Our coaches will not make the same mistakes next time either ( I hope)

Let's not forget a couple of kick offs we tried to pooch it. STUPID! Not the right time or situation. Gave up a lot of field position. Also, though the announcers kept saying we were out of TO's, I'm pretty sure that I remember seeing us use one during that final drive and then they said, "Now both teams have used all their TO's."

the pooch kick led to a fumble and recovery. was that stupid?? we switched out of the pooch kick for our last 2 or 3 kicks. those kicks went to the endzone.

(09-08-2013 01:12 PM)PGJMU Wrote:  the pooch kick led to a fumble and recovery. was that stupid?? we switched out of the pooch kick for our last 2 or 3 kicks. those kicks went to the endzone.

Hey, Mickey Matthews...is that you? If it is...own up to the fact that you coached an absolute SH*TTY game and it is because of you we lost.

Thanks. That'll be all.

(09-08-2013 12:11 PM)PGJMU Wrote:  

(09-08-2013 12:00 PM)DoubleDDuke Wrote:  One thing I am having a hard time getting past is the timeouts. Here's where you just can't call timeout:

- On a field goal attempt.....WTF?

- After having to decide so long to go for 2 after a TD and then the QB getting sacked and not even have a chance. Birdsong has to do something there. Just throw a lolly pop in the end zone. If they pick it off, so what?

Those situations are really frustrating and that's coaching and lack of preparation. As a coach, you have to have your team prepared to know what to do and you need to make decisions quickly. Mickyisms crack me up but here's something that he would probably say: More time doesn't make you smarter. If you're dumb, you can take all the time you want and still be dumb.

1. we missed the fieldgoal where Mickey called timeout. we got a second chance and made it - to me this seems like a good timeout

2. Akron called the TO on the 2 pt conversion

man, you guys get worked up about stuff that isnt even correct.

its in vogue to bash Mickey, so hell, just make stuff up that didnt even happen

(09-08-2013 12:47 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  Let's not forget a couple of kick offs we tried to pooch it. STUPID! Not the right time or situation. Gave up a lot of field position. Also, though the announcers kept saying we were out of TO's, I'm pretty sure that I remember seeing us use one during that final drive and then they said, "Now both teams have used all their TO's."

Yes, this is what caused confusion near the end of the game (for those of us watching at home. ESPN graphics screwed up and assumed it was us who called that timeout - it was Akron so that they could allow their defense to catch their breath. I happened to be listened to the (very faint) in-stadium announcer who did say that the TO was by Akron, but the ESPN graphics crew never heard that. The announcers did figure it out quickly, but never pushed to make a correction (maybe they don't see the on-screen graphics to know it was wrong?).

(09-08-2013 12:18 PM)PGJMU Wrote:  First time out, on the fg. We missed on the attempt, but Mick had called timeout and we got a 2nd try. Mickey was hot about something, not sure what. We make the second kick. Seems like the TO save us 3 points, good timeout

You know who he should have been hot at? Himself. The staff stood around doing a circle jerk deciding whether to kick or go for it and then he yells at the players about it. It wasn't quite pure luck that the first kick looked so bad and the second made it. Everything was rushed with the first kick which is WHY he called timeout before it was officially kicked. They were scrambling to get set and get the snap off and hold down. That shouldn't happen. As the head coach, you need to make that decision immediately. You can't stand around playing with your man boobs and then try to run the FG team out there at the last second and then get all pissed off at them.

My original post was made when I was REALLY, REALLY pissed off over dominating a team and losing! We find so many ways to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Frustrating. And I do believe we are ready. VERY ready.

(09-08-2013 08:03 PM)bulldogg Wrote:  My original post was made when I was REALLY, REALLY pissed off over dominating a team and losing! We find so many ways to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Frustrating. And I do believe we are ready. VERY ready.

I think we are ready to find another coach as well.....wait what was the point of this thread again?

(09-08-2013 08:03 PM)bulldogg Wrote:  My original post was made when I was REALLY, REALLY pissed off over dominating a team and losing! We find so many ways to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Frustrating. And I do believe we are ready. VERY ready.

I'll forgive you

Winning has nothing to do with joining the SBC...just ask GA State.

(09-08-2013 08:09 PM)jmu@uva Wrote:  

(09-08-2013 08:03 PM)bulldogg Wrote:  My original post was made when I was REALLY, REALLY pissed off over dominating a team and losing! We find so many ways to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Frustrating. And I do believe we are ready. VERY ready.

I think we are ready to find another coach as well.....wait what was the point of this thread again?

Quoting this so I can come back to it at the end of the season.

We may not be ready to play day to day right now but we are ready to make the move, you add the extra 20 some scholarships into our pool with a FBS designation and we will get better.

As far as recruiting goes, just take all recruits on a tour of Aspen Heights and they will sign immediately.

(09-08-2013 11:46 AM)DoubleDDuke Wrote:  

(09-08-2013 10:55 AM)Longhorn Wrote:  

(09-08-2013 10:47 AM)KickItToScotty Wrote:  

(09-08-2013 09:37 AM)JMU2004 Wrote:  I think this game showed we ARE ready. With 22 less scholarships AND bad coaching, we still had a chance.

I think so too. With better in game coaching we'd have probably been up by at least a couple touchdowns at half and we definitely would have ended up winning, maybe handily. So with less scholarships and being FCS we still had enough talent and everything, the only problem was some bad coaching in game. If we were to go FBS we'd get more scholarships and we'd get even better recruits, I think we'd immediately be better than Akron(well I think we already are and just blew it). Maybe Mickey will even eventually learn what not to do when we get an early lead.

Not disagreeing that better in-game coaching would have helped yesterday, but bad in-game coaching didn't lose yesterday's game.

Players on the field getting beat on multiple long passes for TDs, or fumbling on your team's 15 yard line is what lost yesterday's game. Those are the (poor) plays of R-Fr...a byproduct of having fewer scholarships, and the coaching decision to play them because they may be our best options.

I agree. There were some faults regarding the in-game coaching but they can't put 15 games of experience into a guy like Taylor Reynolds during the game. The kid is playing a new position and just needs some experience. I'm not blaming him for the loss, I think he's going to wind up being very good. I saw this morning that 46% of Akron's offense came on 3 plays.

One thing that's still so frustrating is the looking at the sideline thing. Every time we do that the play is either an incompletion or a run for no gain or a loss. Birdsong needs to be able (and empowered) to run the offense when a defensive end or a LB twitches a little. Do we not practice blitz pick up? You don't see Peyton Manning stop the whole snap count and look at the sideline when an outside linebacker faints blitz. It throws everything off and guys are standing around. We never even switch formations or anything. It just seems like a total lack of preparedness. You leave people sitting in their stance while Ulrick Edmonds and two backup QBs flail away on the sideline and there's no rhythm. Never works.

Geez you are relentless. Did you just compare Birdsong to P. Manning or FCS football to the NFL?

Damn we ran 94 plays for 498 yards. And you're bitching about rhythm and the offense and the way we signal in plays? You are the angriest human I've ever encountered and it's not even close.