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Is it me or does it seem like the fans of the other conferences are more over confident of the SEC than we are?

The title run has been great but a lot of its been flat out luck with other schools taking themselves out through boneheaded last minute losses
09-08-2013 10:34 AM
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(09-08-2013 10:34 AM)10thMountain Wrote:  Is it me or does it seem like the fans of the other conferences are more over confident of the SEC than we are?

The title run has been great but a lot of its been flat out luck with other schools taking themselves out through boneheaded last minute losses

10th, the new American mentality has to have a boogie man. We pit Red states against Blue, Black against White and both against Hispanics, liberal against conservative, and conference against conference. All of this crap is based on envy and none of it on reality. The SEC is just the new "have group" to hate. I grew up in a country where individual genius was prized and celebrated no matter where in the country it came from. I grew up in a country where third parties helped to shape election debates and their best ideas were adopted into the running platforms of the Democrats and Republicans and the elections were about issues.

We no longer celebrate individual achievements like we once did. In sports our heroes are sold to us by hype machines so that their ascent profits some larger entity (ESPN). That is why a Jim Thorpe could never happen today. If they are from a place too small to move the profit needle we push a lesser athlete for the awards from a larger demographic so that more product can be sold. Political campaigns never discuss ideas in depth and specificity like they once did. Now they are campaigns that essentially say my SOB is not nearly as evil as your SOB and do so in awful 30 second sound bytes that only profit the networks that sponsor the debates that always exclude the ideas of the third parties. So this is nothing new. Many younger Americans today are growing up expecting nothing of themselves and are being taught to gripe about what others accomplish and to see the success of others as some form of injustice. The new corporate system likes this. An individual with credibility and public acclaim is a dangerous entity that may speak against them. Therefore only those who are vetted by corporate America may speak or become a hero. It's all phony Machiavellian crap to keep the ignorant masses from uniting and demanding a true reform of our society. So don't be dismayed when the SEC is over hyped by our adversaries because without a boogie man to hate and blame for their own shortcomings the ignorant putzes wouldn't know what to do about their pathetic lives. God forbid they should ever awaken to figure out that those they blame for their problems are in the same boat that they are in and that they have been purposely pointed in the wrong direction to expend their energy for true change on the wrong targets.
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(09-08-2013 10:47 AM)JRsec Wrote:  God forbid they should ever awaken to figure out that those they blame for their problems are in the same boat that they are in and that they have been purposely pointed in the wrong direction to expend their energy for true change on the wrong targets.
I only quoted the last sentence for brevity, but my God, what an outstanding post. Kudos to you sir.
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It's kind of a silly comment considering Georgia and Florida have lost their marquee out of league games, and Tennesse is likely to get blasted by Oregon.
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(09-10-2013 02:00 AM)CPslograd Wrote:  It's kind of a silly comment considering Georgia and Florida have lost their marquee out of league games, and Tennesse is likely to get blasted by Oregon.
If the Vols were going to get blasted by Oregon, Western Kentucky would have given them more problem. This isn't last year's Tennessee team...
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McShay's comments on E J Manuel:

"I think it's going to be a long time before he's ready," McShay said. "That doesn't mean he's not going to be on the field, but it's going to be a long time before he's NFL-ready as a quarterback. This is not a great pick for the Buffalo Bills."

14 days is a long time.
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(09-10-2013 02:12 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  
(09-10-2013 02:00 AM)CPslograd Wrote:  It's kind of a silly comment considering Georgia and Florida have lost their marquee out of league games, and Tennesse is likely to get blasted by Oregon.
If the Vols were going to get blasted by Oregon, Western Kentucky would have given them more problem. This isn't last year's Tennessee team...

And yet, Tennessee got blasted by Oregon. This isn't last year's Oregon team, either...
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(09-16-2013 09:41 PM)CommuterBob Wrote:  
(09-10-2013 02:12 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  
(09-10-2013 02:00 AM)CPslograd Wrote:  It's kind of a silly comment considering Georgia and Florida have lost their marquee out of league games, and Tennesse is likely to get blasted by Oregon.
If the Vols were going to get blasted by Oregon, Western Kentucky would have given them more problem. This isn't last year's Tennessee team...
And yet, Tennessee got blasted by Oregon. This isn't last year's Oregon team, either...
So I noticed. The Vols did absolutely nothing after that first TD...
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I think a 2 loss SEC team would and should get in the title game over an undefeated Louisville or a Boise State, but no actual power team should get jumped by a 2 loss SEC team no matter what.
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The problem with that line of thinking Coog, is that a one loss team has NEVER jumped an undefeated team in the Top10. Never ever ever. They may not get dropped below said undefeated team in the first place, but they've never JUMPED one and that's what would likely have to happen in order to play in a title game over Louisville.

For the record: I know Louisville's shot at the title is a long one and likely won't happen, I'm merely pointing out that history does not support this claim that we'd automatically get left out and jumped over.
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A 1 loss SEC team will not pass an undefeated Oregon or Ohio St.
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(09-07-2013 06:15 PM)darkdragon99 Wrote:  He said a 2 loss SEC team would get into the national championship game over an undefeated team from another conference. Robert Smith was flabbergasted and mentioned even over the Pac 12 if they were undefeated and Mcshay did not waiver.

So if hes right and if a 2 loss SEC team does make it over an undefeated Pac 12, Big, 12 , ACC team then college football really is messed up.

Do you actually watch the games? The B1G and Big-12 are not good (actually bad). Outside of Clemson and FSU, neither is the ACC. There is not a single team in those conferences that will actually play more than 2 ranked teams all year except Clemson (see their OOC schedule).

I disagree with his opinion on the PAC though...they are playing some good ball and have 2-3 legitimate top 5 teams.
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Ranked teams.
FSU (4): Florida, Clemson, Miami, (ACC Title Game).
Clemson (4): Georgia, FSU, S.Carolina, (ACC Title Game).

BTW:
Alabama (3): A&M, LSU and SEC title game.
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(09-17-2013 09:20 AM)LSUtah Wrote:  
(09-07-2013 06:15 PM)darkdragon99 Wrote:  He said a 2 loss SEC team would get into the national championship game over an undefeated team from another conference. Robert Smith was flabbergasted and mentioned even over the Pac 12 if they were undefeated and Mcshay did not waiver.

So if hes right and if a 2 loss SEC team does make it over an undefeated Pac 12, Big, 12 , ACC team then college football really is messed up.

Do you actually watch the games? The B1G and Big-12 are not good (actually bad). Outside of Clemson and FSU, neither is the ACC. There is not a single team in those conferences that will actually play more than 2 ranked teams all year except Clemson (see their OOC schedule).

I disagree with his opinion on the PAC though...they are playing some good ball and have 2-3 legitimate top 5 teams.

Um, I like the SEC but Miami looks like they're pretty good.
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Ohio State (4): Wisconsin, NW, Michigan, (B1G Title Game).
Oklahoma (4): ND, TT, Baylor, Ok St.
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(09-07-2013 06:15 PM)darkdragon99 Wrote:  He said a 2 loss SEC team would get into the national championship game over an undefeated team from another conference. Robert Smith was flabbergasted and mentioned even over the Pac 12 if they were undefeated and Mcshay did not waiver.

So if hes right and if a 2 loss SEC team does make it over an undefeated Pac 12, Big, 12 , ACC team then college football really is messed up.

It is stupid to generalize like McShay does. It will be close to impossible for a 2 loss team to make the BCSNCG. LSU managed to do it but they also played 7 ranked teams that year and won the SEC championship game.

This year Alabama might play 3 ranked teams, not including SEC CG.
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(09-17-2013 11:04 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  
(09-07-2013 06:15 PM)darkdragon99 Wrote:  He said a 2 loss SEC team would get into the national championship game over an undefeated team from another conference. Robert Smith was flabbergasted and mentioned even over the Pac 12 if they were undefeated and Mcshay did not waiver.

So if hes right and if a 2 loss SEC team does make it over an undefeated Pac 12, Big, 12 , ACC team then college football really is messed up.

It is stupid to generalize like McShay does. It will be close to impossible for a 2 loss team to make the BCSNCG. LSU managed to do it but they also played 7 ranked teams that year and won the SEC championship game.

This year Alabama might play 3 ranked teams, not including SEC CG.

moreso, the year LSU played with 2 losses, the only team with 1 loss was Ohio St and in the title game already. 2007 season- maybe the craziest year we've ever had quite frankly.
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(09-17-2013 11:08 AM)stever20 Wrote:  
(09-17-2013 11:04 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  
(09-07-2013 06:15 PM)darkdragon99 Wrote:  He said a 2 loss SEC team would get into the national championship game over an undefeated team from another conference. Robert Smith was flabbergasted and mentioned even over the Pac 12 if they were undefeated and Mcshay did not waiver.

So if hes right and if a 2 loss SEC team does make it over an undefeated Pac 12, Big, 12 , ACC team then college football really is messed up.

It is stupid to generalize like McShay does. It will be close to impossible for a 2 loss team to make the BCSNCG. LSU managed to do it but they also played 7 ranked teams that year and won the SEC championship game.

This year Alabama might play 3 ranked teams, not including SEC CG.

moreso, the year LSU played with 2 losses, the only team with 1 loss was Ohio St and in the title game already. 2007 season- maybe the craziest year we've ever had quite frankly.

Yep and McShay says this assuming there are zero loss teams from the BIG, or PAC, or even ACC (Clemson, FSU) etc.
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(09-17-2013 11:16 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  
(09-17-2013 11:08 AM)stever20 Wrote:  
(09-17-2013 11:04 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  
(09-07-2013 06:15 PM)darkdragon99 Wrote:  He said a 2 loss SEC team would get into the national championship game over an undefeated team from another conference. Robert Smith was flabbergasted and mentioned even over the Pac 12 if they were undefeated and Mcshay did not waiver.

So if hes right and if a 2 loss SEC team does make it over an undefeated Pac 12, Big, 12 , ACC team then college football really is messed up.

It is stupid to generalize like McShay does. It will be close to impossible for a 2 loss team to make the BCSNCG. LSU managed to do it but they also played 7 ranked teams that year and won the SEC championship game.

This year Alabama might play 3 ranked teams, not including SEC CG.

moreso, the year LSU played with 2 losses, the only team with 1 loss was Ohio St and in the title game already. 2007 season- maybe the craziest year we've ever had quite frankly.

Yep and McShay says this assuming there are zero loss teams from the BIG, or PAC, or even ACC (Clemson, FSU) etc.

He's an idiot.
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