..... clearly leaving the poor to rot and die here.

http://nationalreview.com/article/356713...ina-trinko

While that was nice of Paul, he's taking a big risk of getting sued for malpractice. I wouldn't put it past the left to put a plant on his operating table just so they could do it.

Just 48,999,999 to go!

Meh, photo op.

Positive Rep me and I'll vote for Obama in 2016

Could you find a pro-bono lawyer in the senate? NOPE

(08-31-2013 07:10 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  Just 48,999,999 to go!

Exactly, Where can I direct people who can't afford insurance under our current system of 'healthcare' to go for chemotherapy?

(09-01-2013 10:17 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(08-31-2013 07:10 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  Just 48,999,999 to go!

Exactly, Where can I direct people who can't afford insurance under our current system of 'healthcare' to go for chemotherapy?

Where are they going to go under Obamacare?

(09-01-2013 11:35 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(09-01-2013 10:17 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(08-31-2013 07:10 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  Just 48,999,999 to go!

Exactly, Where can I direct people who can't afford insurance under our current system of 'healthcare' to go for chemotherapy?

Where are they going to go under Obamacare?

To a doctor. If US doctors refuse to play ball, we'll just import qualified doctors from elsewhere. At any rate, it will be better care than no care for those who can't afford it under the present system.

(09-01-2013 01:44 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  To a doctor. If US doctors refuse to play ball, we'll just import qualified doctors from elsewhere.

Yeah. Right. Sure. Where they will go to the back of the line. And with luck, they'll see a doctor in 6 to 18 months. If they're still alive.

Quote:At any rate, it will be better care than no care for those who can't afford it under the present system.

And worse for the 85% who have health insurance under the current system. And the ones who can't afford it now get care.

You really just buy any lie that your leftist masters cook up, don't you? Quite seriously, if I thought there was a snowball's chance in hell that Obamacare would work, I might be in favor of it. But I don't, therefore I'm not.

(09-01-2013 02:07 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(09-01-2013 01:44 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  To a doctor. If US doctors refuse to play ball, we'll just import qualified doctors from elsewhere.

Yeah. Right. Sure.

Quote:At any rate, it will be better care than no care for those who can't afford it under the present system.

And worse for the 85% who have health insurance under the current system. And the ones who can't afford it now get care.

You really just buy any lie that your leftist masters cook up, don't you? Quite seriously, if I thought there was a snowball's chance in hell that Obamacare would work, I might be in favor of it. But I don't, therefore I'm not.

Actually they don't. Try and get a transplant without paying for it.

(09-01-2013 02:09 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(09-01-2013 02:07 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(09-01-2013 01:44 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  To a doctor. If US doctors refuse to play ball, we'll just import qualified doctors from elsewhere.

Yeah. Right. Sure.

Quote:At any rate, it will be better care than no care for those who can't afford it under the present system.

And worse for the 85% who have health insurance under the current system. And the ones who can't afford it now get care.

You really just buy any lie that your leftist masters cook up, don't you? Quite seriously, if I thought there was a snowball's chance in hell that Obamacare would work, I might be in favor of it. But I don't, therefore I'm not.

Actually they don't. Try and get a transplant without paying for it.

Of course, that's an absurdly disingenuous comment for any of several reasons. Try getting a transplant if you can pay for it, they're still few and far between. And not every medical procedure is a transplant, there are plenty that they can get. Transplants are truly a rare and infrequent exception to the general rule.

But of course you want to deflect onto transplants because you cannot debate the rest of the points made.

(09-01-2013 02:09 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Actually they don't. Try and get a transplant without paying for it.

You've hit on the problem with your description: paying for it.

Let donors get paid market value for their organs and A LOT more people will get the organs they need. Everybody else in the chain gets paid EXCEPT the person losing body parts. It's like the NCAA's "student athlete" model applied to transplants. Everybody else makes truckloads of money off the student athlete ... the student athlete only gets some sheepskin, meals for four years, and in most cases a worthless major.

(09-01-2013 03:06 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(09-01-2013 02:09 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Actually they don't. Try and get a transplant without paying for it.

You've hit on the problem with your description: paying for it.

Let donors get paid market value for their organs and A LOT more people will get the organs they need. Everybody else in the chain gets paid EXCEPT the person losing body parts. It's like the NCAA's "student athlete" model applied to transplants. Everybody else makes truckloads of money off the student athlete ... the student athlete only gets some sheepskin, meals for four years, and in most cases a worthless major.

Wow, you just took crazy to a whole new level.

(09-01-2013 03:14 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  

(09-01-2013 03:06 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(09-01-2013 02:09 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Actually they don't. Try and get a transplant without paying for it.

You've hit on the problem with your description: paying for it.

Let donors get paid market value for their organs and A LOT more people will get the organs they need. Everybody else in the chain gets paid EXCEPT the person losing body parts. It's like the NCAA's "student athlete" model applied to transplants. Everybody else makes truckloads of money off the student athlete ... the student athlete only gets some sheepskin, meals for four years, and in most cases a worthless major.

Wow, you just took crazy to a whole new level.

What's crazy? Getting paid for organ donation, the NCAA is a group of money grubbing Nazis, or that most college athletes waste the opportunity at a free education?

(09-01-2013 03:19 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  What's crazy? Getting paid for organ donation, the NCAA is a group of money grubbing Nazis, or that most college athletes waste the opportunity at a free education?