(08-23-2013 12:31 PM)Quagmire Wrote:  Funny to watch this thread veer off in several directions. I am guessing the original question was asked since JMU has played FBS schools before and we haven't. Wondering what can be expected in terms of depth, athleticism, experience and playing in front of a 45K to 50K crowd for the first time.

I don't mind answering the question. Its my opinion that ODU may score too quick, even on a team that should be better. If you fail to score on two possessions per quarter, then you will find yourself in too big of a hole to overcome. Scoring quickly is good if you don't miss out on opportunities.

(08-23-2013 12:40 PM)Mad victory Wrote:  

(08-23-2013 08:45 AM)atljmualum Wrote:  

(08-23-2013 08:09 AM)Mad victory Wrote:  

(08-22-2013 03:58 PM)KickItToScotty Wrote:  

(08-22-2013 03:37 PM)jmu82 Wrote:  This always amuses me. Was JMU football picked 5th or 6th in preseaon voting by the coaches? I forget. If it comes true, then the only joke will be on us.

Well ok, I guess a lot of people are focused on all football all the time. I'm a way bigger men's basketball fan than football so I guess I'm the minority, but to me, yeah, the CAA is a joke and I badly want JMU out of it. I don't think I am the minority in wanting JMU to leave the CAA though, so that's why it seemed weird for someone to get all defensive of the CAA.

I didn't defend the CAA. I simply didn't understand why a guy who is making fun of our conference, and occasionally makes fun of us was on our board asking us our opinion about his team playing another team. If the question is is so serious then why not ask the folks on his board, there are plenty of people on there. Also if he thinks our conference and team is below his then why does he value our opinion. In regards to the CAA being a joke I don't believe that it is. We have lost a lot of teams that we love to compete against, but on the football side it is just as strong as it has ever been, and we could very easily be a middle of the pack team this year. We will probably be middle of the pack in basketball this year as well.

Not to argue with you, MV, but I'm guessing the reason he asked our opinion rather than just those on his boards is because we've seen our FCS team play a number of FBS opponents over the years and therefore would have a better, more unbiased opinion than the ODU fans.

I understand your point about the scooby doo gif, but I actually think it's pretty funny. I am ready to get the hell out of the CAA, so maybe that's why, but it's just humor.

Also, not directed at you, MV, but last time I checked, we still live in a free country (somewhat) and this board is a free service, so I'm not sure why everyone keeps getting their panties all up in a wad over ODU posters coming to our boards or people starting OT threads in the non-OT section (god forbid). If you don't like it, don't read it. You have a choice and are welcome to exercise it. If you want a board where you have more control over access and content, then by all means, go create your own, as you have the right to do that if you'd like.

I didn't get upset with him, I just said his fellow fans would have a better idea than ours about their team vs a team we don't play, or at least I hope they would. Also I haven't really gotten involved in the whole OT thing, I don't mind them posting here when they behave, in fact I like being on a board with a lot of other schools. The gif doesn't offend me it's like the boy that cried wolf. They come over and poke and pry, and then say ok I'm gonna be serious, Starting , Now. It's lame

Quote:"Not to argue with you, MV, but I'm guessing the reason he asked our opinion rather than just those on his boards is because we've seen our FCS team play a number of FBS opponents over the years and therefore would have a better, more unbiased opinion than the ODU fans."

Bingo. There is already a thread on the ODU Board, ECU Board, and CUSA board. I just wanted another FCS opinion, and JMU seemed to me to be the place for it.

As for the GIF, it is 90% humor, 10% sour grapes. (Most JMU fans seem to approve.) It'll change soon as the season progresses.

Also, I'm pretty good at talking smack, and when I do, I don't try to disguise it. I do, however, try to make it entertaining and relevant, and since we aren't playing each other, it'll be quite limited. But I also like serious sports talk as well. I may get a jab in now and then (it's just the nature of the rivalry), and I need to do so before basketball season starts

What was that asinine statement your fans love to throw around? "You have to win a game for it to be a rivalry"? You pass us, yet you come back for discussion and input. Aren't you supposed to be talking to the Roll Tide fans?

(08-23-2013 03:12 PM)Potomac Wrote:  What was that asinine statement your fans love to throw around? "You have to win a game for it to be a rivalry"? You pass us, yet you come back for discussion and input. Aren't you supposed to be talking to the Roll Tide fans?

I agree that that's an asinine statement. It's about as asinine as the statement "It'll be years before you can compete in the CAA," or "Try winning a national title." They're really just statements to rile the other side up.

^ this is why ODU threads should be moved to OT subforum.

(08-23-2013 05:07 PM)odusteeler Wrote:  I agree that that's an asinine statement. It's about as asinine as the statement "It'll be years before you can compete in the CAA," or "Try winning a national title." They're really just statements to rile the other side up.

For the record, we weren't the only fan base that were saying you wouldn't compete in the CAA right away. And for us to say it may take a few years to happen, was not "asinine".. it was actually realistic. The truth was that you guys did it in less time... congrats. You did something most FCS fans didn't think you would do.
As for the "try winning a national title"... that's hilarious. Every team tries to win a national title. Even Liberty TRIES to win a title. I don't think you'd find a fan that would say you didn't try. Good for you guys that you tried... unfortunately it never worked out for you. Didn't work out for Georgia State either.
Let's not forget: "Do or do not. There is no try."

(08-23-2013 05:33 PM)JMU Wrote:  ^ this is why ODU threads should be moved to OT subforum.

This is also why this was an oduh trollfest from the git. Why some of you actually honored this garbage with a measured response absolutely baffles me.

This was never a search for some legit "input", it was a har har from the first post. Another ole dirty troll.

K back to the Dukes now. Thanks.

Go Dukes

(08-23-2013 08:45 PM)JMad03 Wrote:  

(08-23-2013 05:07 PM)odusteeler Wrote:  I agree that that's an asinine statement. It's about as asinine as the statement "It'll be years before you can compete in the CAA," or "Try winning a national title." They're really just statements to rile the other side up.

For the record, we weren't the only fan base that were saying you wouldn't compete in the CAA right away. And for us to say it may take a few years to happen, was not "asinine".. it was actually realistic. The truth was that you guys did it in less time... congrats. You did something most FCS fans didn't think you would do.
As for the "try winning a national title"... that's hilarious. Every team tries to win a national title. Even Liberty TRIES to win a title. I don't think you'd find a fan that would say you didn't try. Good for you guys that you tried... unfortunately it never worked out for you. Didn't work out for Georgia State either.
Let's not forget: "Do or do not. There is no try."

1) Becoming competitive in the CAA was never going to be that difficult to begin with. We're not talking about the SEC here. We're talking about the 10th/11th best football conference in America. So in my opinion, that pretentious attitude makes it asinine.

2) You say "Try winning a national title" to a program in it's 5th year of existence. If we had over 40 years of playing time, I'd consider it a burden (i.e., W&M). But to hold that over us is laughable.

So on the one hand you tell us we'd never compete, and on the other hand we don't measure up because we didn't win the national title. That doesn't make sense to me.

(08-24-2013 05:34 AM)odusteeler Wrote:  

(08-23-2013 08:45 PM)JMad03 Wrote:  

(08-23-2013 05:07 PM)odusteeler Wrote:  I agree that that's an asinine statement. It's about as asinine as the statement "It'll be years before you can compete in the CAA," or "Try winning a national title." They're really just statements to rile the other side up.

For the record, we weren't the only fan base that were saying you wouldn't compete in the CAA right away. And for us to say it may take a few years to happen, was not "asinine".. it was actually realistic. The truth was that you guys did it in less time... congrats. You did something most FCS fans didn't think you would do.
As for the "try winning a national title"... that's hilarious. Every team tries to win a national title. Even Liberty TRIES to win a title. I don't think you'd find a fan that would say you didn't try. Good for you guys that you tried... unfortunately it never worked out for you. Didn't work out for Georgia State either.
Let's not forget: "Do or do not. There is no try."

1) Becoming competitive in the CAA was never going to be that difficult to begin with. We're not talking about the SEC here. We're talking about the 10th/11th best football conference in America. So in my opinion, that pretentious attitude makes it asinine.

2) You say "Try winning a national title" to a program in it's 5th year of existence. If we had over 40 years of playing time, I'd consider it a burden (i.e., W&M). But to hold that over us is laughable.

So on the one hand you tell us we'd never compete, and on the other hand we don't measure up because we didn't win the national title. That doesn't make sense to me.

You being here doesn't make sense to me.

(08-22-2013 09:03 AM)BSKB 24 Wrote:  I think Heinecke will move the ball against them at will. He is that good and Wilder is a great offensive mind. The bigger question is will ODU's D be able to stop them?

That is a serious answer.

And, the answer is no. ODU's defense and special teams gives up 50+ to EZU. Got to improve your defense or you will be in for more of the same when you play 1A teams.

(09-01-2013 05:44 PM)BSKB 24 Wrote:  

(08-22-2013 09:03 AM)BSKB 24 Wrote:  I think Heinecke will move the ball against them at will. He is that good and Wilder is a great offensive mind. The bigger question is will ODU's D be able to stop them?

That is a serious answer.

And, the answer is no. ODU's defense and special teams gives up 50+ to EZU. Got to improve your defense or you will be in for more of the same when you play 1A teams.

I kind of expected that. (Actually, the D only gave up 45, and had some good moments, but ECU's O is very good as well.)

In any case, my suspicions were verified. ECU's D is nowhere near the best we have faced/

(09-01-2013 05:44 PM)BSKB 24 Wrote:  And, the answer is no. ODU's defense and special teams gives up 50+ to EZU. Got to improve your defense or you will be in for more of the same when you play 1A teams.

Same exact story as last year. Heinicke will put up points and keep us in the game but defense has to make some stops. Yesterday they couldn't make any key stops. At least we showed we belong at the FBS level.

IMHO, ODU made a very good debut against an FBS program, I think they did what most of us expected- high octane offense and a D that's not yet up to solid FBS level. And ECU's D is not what they want to aspire to- even Pirate fans would concede that. But they're not that far away and when they have a full complement of FBS players and are playing at home, I don't think ODU will be afraid of any C-USA team.

Go Dukes

Dukes

Spot on. Pretty much what we have heard and will hear about Heinicke.

Quote:First of all...Great game ODU, your players never quit. You have a very smart, well coached, and disciplined team.

Secondly, you guys better enjoy your QB while you have him...It will basically be impossible to replace him. He is one hell of a player and he is the reason you guys were in the game. I was very impressed with his arm strength and he is a damn magician at avoiding sacks and getting out of the pocket. He is almost impossible to defend...I wish we would have game planned to have a spy on him. There were many times we had him sacked for him only to escape and pick-up chunks of yards. If you guys had a mere mortal at QB that could have been one ugly game for you guys. You guys also have a damn good offensive line, they are big and athletic.

As far as each teams defenses go...The first thing you have to understand is there were a lot of possessions for each team in this game and that really skews the stats...Each of us run offenses that score quickly and are very hard to defend. It will be interesting to see how each teams defenses perform throughout the season...I really do not think it is a matter of terrible defenses, I am giving a lot of credit to each teams offense.

Hopefully we never have to play Heinicke again...Dude is flat out nasty.

(09-02-2013 03:01 PM)ODU89 Wrote:  Spot on. Pretty much what we have heard and will hear about Heinicke.

Quote:First of all...Great game ODU, your players never quit. You have a very smart, well coached, and disciplined team.

Secondly, you guys better enjoy your QB while you have him...It will basically be impossible to replace him. He is one hell of a player and he is the reason you guys were in the game. I was very impressed with his arm strength and he is a damn magician at avoiding sacks and getting out of the pocket. He is almost impossible to defend...I wish we would have game planned to have a spy on him. There were many times we had him sacked for him only to escape and pick-up chunks of yards. If you guys had a mere mortal at QB that could have been one ugly game for you guys. You guys also have a damn good offensive line, they are big and athletic.

As far as each teams defenses go...The first thing you have to understand is there were a lot of possessions for each team in this game and that really skews the stats...Each of us run offenses that score quickly and are very hard to defend. It will be interesting to see how each teams defenses perform throughout the season...I really do not think it is a matter of terrible defenses, I am giving a lot of credit to each teams offense.

Hopefully we never have to play Heinicke again...Dude is flat out nasty.

Yup, it's amazing what an elite QB will do. I anticipate TH to be drafted in 2015 and play in the NFL despite his size. Guy is a flat out baller....back to reality though, F ODU!