(08-21-2013 04:25 AM)XLance Wrote:  

(08-20-2013 08:58 PM)goofus Wrote:  Now a days this is a constantly shifting list. Next year Maryland will be on your list. The same reason South carolina is on your list now. Used to be in the ACC.

Nebraska used to be at the top of Iowa and Minnesota's list. Now they are at the top of all the old big 8 school's list.

Texas and Texas A&M are now on the top of each other's list. Along with thier old SWC pals.

Goofus,
Carolina and South Carolina played 16 times as ACC conference mates. That means that 40 of the 56 games played were OOC games (in terms of today's conferences).
40 OOC games would still place South Carolina at the top of our most played OOC opponent.

How many UNC v USC games were SoCon games, not OOC games?

(08-21-2013 07:25 AM)AppfanInCAAland Wrote:  

(08-21-2013 04:25 AM)XLance Wrote:  

(08-20-2013 08:58 PM)goofus Wrote:  Now a days this is a constantly shifting list. Next year Maryland will be on your list. The same reason South carolina is on your list now. Used to be in the ACC.

Nebraska used to be at the top of Iowa and Minnesota's list. Now they are at the top of all the old big 8 school's list.

Texas and Texas A&M are now on the top of each other's list. Along with thier old SWC pals.

Goofus,
Carolina and South Carolina played 16 times as ACC conference mates. That means that 40 of the 56 games played were OOC games (in terms of today's conferences).
40 OOC games would still place South Carolina at the top of our most played OOC opponent.

How many UNC v USC games were SoCon games, not OOC games?

Perhaps you wouldn't mind looking that up for those that want to know.

For Texas, the most played teams out of conference
1. Oklahoma (from the 20s-90s) approx. 75 of 107 games
2. Southwestern 22 (a couple were when they were SWC members-last game 1945)
3. Tulane 19
4. LSU 17
5. Missouri 14 of 23 games ooc
6. Vanderbilt 12 (last played 1928)
7. Haskell 11 (last played 1911)
8. Notre Dame 10
9. Alabama 9
9. North Carolina 9
9. North Texas 9
9. Dallas U 9 (last played 1899)

The following teams are no longer in conference, but nearly all games were in conference:
Texas A&M 118
Rice 93
Arkansas 77
SMU 73
Houston 25
Missouri 23*listed above
Colorado 18
Nebraska 14

Texas has only played KSU, KU and ISU 13, 12 and 10 times, respectively.

If #7 on your list is Haskell Indian College in Lawrence, it's ironic that you've only played KU one more time than you've played Haskell, even though it's obviously been a long time.

Rice has played LSU 55 times.

I don't know exactly how to break it up where you have nothing but true OOC opponents, but I will give you teams that are currently most popular OOC for my favorite teams (I only include opponents that my favorite teams have played at least ten times):

Georgia

Yech (aka GT) 107
Clemson 62
N.Carolina 30
FSU 11
Virginia 19
Miami (FL) 12
Tulane 24
Yale 11
Furman 23


Oregon

Air Force 12
Idaho 59
SJSU 18


Southern Miss

FSU 22
NCSU 10
Louisville 30
Cincy 15
Alabama 42
Auburn 22
Ole Miss 24
Miss State 27
Louisiana 50 (Ragin' Cajuns)
Arkansas St. 11
Memphis 63
Houston 14
SLU 22
Northwestern St. 22

Troy

UAB 10
Jax State 63
Austin Peay 16
UT-Martin 27
Ga. Southern 13* (future conf mate)
Samford 23
McNeese 12
Nicholls 27
Northwestern St. 13
SLU 18
Alabama St. 15

I restricted opponents to Div I only.

(08-20-2013 11:37 PM)domer1978 Wrote:  

(08-20-2013 11:33 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:  

(08-20-2013 11:12 PM)domer1978 Wrote:  OT- I can't wait till we play,I still can't believe that we have never played before.

USC-84
Purdue-84
Navy-84
MSU-79
Pitt-66
Army- 50
Northwestern-47
Mich- 40
GT-34
Air Force- 29
Indiana- 29
Stanford- 27
Miami-25
Iowa- 24
BC- 22
Penn State- 19
UNC- 18
Wisconsin- 16
SMU- 13
Illinois- 12
Oklahoma- 10
Texas- 10
LSU- 10

Yeh, it's exciting to have ND and PSU on our future schedules. Those are two teams VT fans have always wanted to play.

I added some more to your list for my own curiosity.

I just hope Beamer hangs around long enough for the game. Thanks for the add on's.

How come Notre Dame never plays Iowa anymore? Oh yeah, there was a big controversy in the 50's and the teams never played. again

OOC Teams for Georgia Southern (we disbanded football for 40+ years after the war)

1) South Georgia College - 15
2) Brewton Parker 14
3) ETSU - 14*
4) TROY - 13
5) Middle Georgia - 13
5) Central Florida - 11
6) Mid Tenn St - 11
7) Florida A&M - 10
8) VMI - 10
9) Newberry - 10
10) James Madison - 8




*Most games played when we were conference mates

(08-21-2013 07:23 PM)DawgNBama Wrote:  I don't know exactly how to break it up where you have nothing but true OOC opponents, but...

That's the problem with this thread. Starting next year, the most common OOC game for my school, App State, by standard used will be Western Carolina with 78 meetings. Some of them were OOC games as App moved the SoCon earlier than WCU, and all future meetings after this year's will be OOC, but most were conference games. It's easy to sort that one out but much harder when the moves were further in that past or more frequent - such as for a school like VT where they were independent at the start of the century then they joined the SoCon (then while they were there first the SEC then later the ACC split off) then they were independent then the Big East then the ACC, while opponents were doing other moves. What was the alignment when each game was played? Who would want to sort that all out? Nobody.

(08-23-2013 01:15 PM)AppfanInCAAland Wrote:  

(08-21-2013 07:23 PM)DawgNBama Wrote:  I don't know exactly how to break it up where you have nothing but true OOC opponents, but...

That's the problem with this thread. Starting next year, the most common OOC game for my school, App State, by standard used will be Western Carolina with 78 meetings. Some of them were OOC games as App moved the SoCon earlier than WCU, and all future meetings after this year's will be OOC, but most were conference games. It's easy to sort that one out but much harder when the moves were further in that past or more frequent - such as for a school like VT where they were independent at the start of the century then they joined the SoCon (then while they were there first the SEC then later the ACC split off) then they were independent then the Big East then the ACC, while opponents were doing other moves. What was the alignment when each game was played? Who would want to sort that all out? Nobody.

Well the thread was about OOC opponents now. It never stipulated whether the games were ooc at the time. I'd just treat it as a listing of teams played more than 10 times. That is really the jist of it anyway. Who have you played in the past that isn't in your current conference?

Who has been in conference/OOC for us has changed so much at several points that I'm just listing our top played opponents because at some point they have ALL have been OOC opponents

UT - 118
BU - 108
TCU - 92
SMU - 79
RICE - 79
TTU - 70
ARK - 69
LSU - 51
UH - 34
OU - 30

-Rice and SMU will have their 80th meetings this year
-Arkansas will be the 70th meeting

(08-21-2013 07:25 AM)AppfanInCAAland Wrote:  

(08-21-2013 04:25 AM)XLance Wrote:  

(08-20-2013 08:58 PM)goofus Wrote:  Now a days this is a constantly shifting list. Next year Maryland will be on your list. The same reason South carolina is on your list now. Used to be in the ACC.

Nebraska used to be at the top of Iowa and Minnesota's list. Now they are at the top of all the old big 8 school's list.

Texas and Texas A&M are now on the top of each other's list. Along with thier old SWC pals.

Goofus,
Carolina and South Carolina played 16 times as ACC conference mates. That means that 40 of the 56 games played were OOC games (in terms of today's conferences).
40 OOC games would still place South Carolina at the top of our most played OOC opponent.

How many UNC v USC games were SoCon games, not OOC games?

BTW, 'lil carolina and Carolina were in the Southern Conference together for 31 years. The Heels played the chickens 18 times diring that stretch of time. That still leaves 22 games played when not in the same conference.

(08-23-2013 02:50 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(08-21-2013 07:25 AM)AppfanInCAAland Wrote:  

(08-21-2013 04:25 AM)XLance Wrote:  

(08-20-2013 08:58 PM)goofus Wrote:  Now a days this is a constantly shifting list. Next year Maryland will be on your list. The same reason South carolina is on your list now. Used to be in the ACC.

Nebraska used to be at the top of Iowa and Minnesota's list. Now they are at the top of all the old big 8 school's list.

Texas and Texas A&M are now on the top of each other's list. Along with thier old SWC pals.

Goofus,
Carolina and South Carolina played 16 times as ACC conference mates. That means that 40 of the 56 games played were OOC games (in terms of today's conferences).
40 OOC games would still place South Carolina at the top of our most played OOC opponent.

How many UNC v USC games were SoCon games, not OOC games?

BTW, 'lil carolina and Carolina were in the Southern Conference together for 31 years. The Heels played the chickens 18 times diring that stretch of time. That still leaves 22 games played when not in the same conference.

It's interesting how the notion of conferences have changed. When the conferences were starting to grow to 12+ teams awhile back I remember people bemoaning the fact that teams would no longer be playing every other team in the conference. But that is more the historical norm. West Virginia has a bunch of SoCon championships from after the ACC schools left even though in many of those seasons they only played 4 or 5 conference games and played mostly an OOC schedule, while never playing some of the SoCon teams. For example, they were in the same conference as Furman for something like 40 years and never played them even once, while playing non-conference Pitt every year during the same period. It wouldn't surprise me if things went back to a setup like that in the future where many teams are in a conference together but never play each other.