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RE: ESPN selling AAC inventory to CBSSN
One this makes sense - no sane person can argue that AAC inventory is ESPN's least valuable property. In this deal, just like all those Padres, D'Backs, Marlins tix I have on my Phillies season ticket, better to sell before season just for the liquidity. That's no insult to AAC just current, irrefutable economic facts.

Assuming AAC teams individually have no escape pods (right now any team would leave for P5 at any cost on zero notice), its best bet is to embrace these new modes of delivery - streaming on iPhones, iPads, etc and build fans in youth market. Nobody age 30 or older who is currently a CFB fan is coming to the rescue - allegiances are formed young, e.g. for me John Capelletti and the '73 team (I was in grade school) or in college (future alumni), or on rare occasions under-served CFB market, e.g. ODU, JMU, vast W TX market). If AAC can hang together for 10 years (my odds 50-1) they could build a brand among young and grow. Otherwise, it's CUSA circa 1998-present.
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We're being boned pretty hard on this one. There's nothing overtly wrong with CBS but having the name of Espn and availability was the one thing that was a saving grace.
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RE: ESPN selling AAC inventory to CBSSN
(08-20-2013 08:30 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  
(08-20-2013 08:22 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(08-20-2013 08:18 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  
(08-20-2013 08:13 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  The reality was that pretty much every game headed to CBSS would have been on ESPN3 if not sold.
I have no basis to dispute what you say, but ... how do you know this?

Looked at how much ESPN3 is on the early slate.

What Aresco SAID, defending the deal, was that something like 90% of the football games and 66% of the basketball games would be on networks with 74M+ subscribers--not ESPN3, not RSNs or syndication, not sports-tier channels. AAC fans went back and forth on how that was going to happen--probably lots of games on ESPN-News and lots on ESPN-U.

CBS-SN doesn't have 74M subscribers, and is nowhere close. So the main defense of the TV contract--"the money sucks, but the exposure is good--practically every football game is on basic cable on the ESPN family" is void.

Yep, which is one of the many reasons Aresco should be fired.
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ESPN selling AAC inventory to CBSSN
Is this for 2013? I can't even buy CBSSN (or Fox Sports 2 for that matter) because of some lingering Insight/Time Warner migration issues. This could really hurt Louisville if hardly anyone in Louisville can watch them.
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(08-20-2013 09:26 PM)chargeradio Wrote:  Is this for 2013? I can't even buy CBSSN (or Fox Sports 2 for that matter) because of some lingering Insight/Time Warner migration issues. This could really hurt Louisville if hardly anyone in Louisville can watch them.

LV is a preseason top 10 with a heisman favorite.....

theres no way they dont get on tv
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I don't even know what CBS Sports is. I've never seen it on any TV. And the plug has been pulled on CBS in Dallas. WTF? This is worse than ESPN3.

I guess I'll have to follow the gamecast on my I-phone.
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(08-20-2013 10:11 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  I don't even know what CBS Sports is. I've never seen it on any TV. And the plug has been pulled on CBS in Dallas. WTF? This is worse than ESPN3.

I guess I'll have to follow the gamecast on my I-phone.

CBS sports is what SMU has been on fir years
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RE: ESPN selling AAC inventory to CBSSN
(08-20-2013 08:30 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  
(08-20-2013 08:22 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(08-20-2013 08:18 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  
(08-20-2013 08:13 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  The reality was that pretty much every game headed to CBSS would have been on ESPN3 if not sold.
I have no basis to dispute what you say, but ... how do you know this?

Looked at how much ESPN3 is on the early slate.

What Aresco SAID, defending the deal, was that something like 90% of the football games and 66% of the basketball games would be on networks with 74M+ subscribers--not ESPN3, not RSNs or syndication, not sports-tier channels. AAC fans went back and forth on how that was going to happen--probably lots of games on ESPN-News and lots on ESPN-U.

CBS-SN doesn't have 74M subscribers, and is nowhere close. So the main defense of the TV contract--"the money sucks, but the exposure is good--practically every football game is on basic cable on the ESPN family" is void.

Unless these games were the 10% that wasn't going to be nationally televised (which it looks like closer to 20%--so maybe Aresco exaggerated and we have more 3rd tier football inventory than he thought). In that case, this is actually an upgrade....though, with Arescos track record, I doubt anything is going to come out better than he promised. The opposite usually tends to be true.
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Just getting the best deal they can I guess, but its not good. has the "G" rating all ober it.
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(08-20-2013 06:29 PM)solohawks Wrote:  Didn't the old CUSA have split coverage between ESPN and CBSSN? Ironic eh

NO, CBS and Fox. ESPN only got the champ game.
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(08-20-2013 08:22 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(08-20-2013 08:18 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  
(08-20-2013 08:13 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  The reality was that pretty much every game headed to CBSS would have been on ESPN3 if not sold.
I have no basis to dispute what you say, but ... how do you know this?

Looked at how much ESPN3 is on the early slate.

According to Chuck Sullivan, the AAC's Director of Communications, the sold games would have otherwise been televised on ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU or ESPN News... not ESPN3.

https://twitter.com/sullivan7504/status/...6073830400
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(08-21-2013 12:16 AM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote:  
(08-20-2013 08:22 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(08-20-2013 08:18 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  
(08-20-2013 08:13 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  The reality was that pretty much every game headed to CBSS would have been on ESPN3 if not sold.
I have no basis to dispute what you say, but ... how do you know this?

Looked at how much ESPN3 is on the early slate.

According to Chuck Sullivan, the AAC's Director of Communications, the sold games would have otherwise been televised on ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU or ESPN News... not ESPN3.

https://twitter.com/sullivan7504/status/...6073830400

CBS sports would not have paid for ESPN 3 level content. There is a reason ESPN is putting them on the 3 as there is little demand for them let alone any chance for ESPN to make money on them
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(08-21-2013 12:29 AM)billings Wrote:  
(08-21-2013 12:16 AM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote:  
(08-20-2013 08:22 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(08-20-2013 08:18 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  
(08-20-2013 08:13 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  The reality was that pretty much every game headed to CBSS would have been on ESPN3 if not sold.
I have no basis to dispute what you say, but ... how do you know this?

Looked at how much ESPN3 is on the early slate.

According to Chuck Sullivan, the AAC's Director of Communications, the sold games would have otherwise been televised on ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU or ESPN News... not ESPN3.

https://twitter.com/sullivan7504/status/...6073830400

CBS sports would not have paid for ESPN 3 level content. There is a reason ESPN is putting them on the 3 as there is little demand for them let alone any chance for ESPN to make money on them

Then the stipulation that Aresco has been hollering from the roof tops that games can only be sublicensed to networks that have more than 74 million subscribers is patently false.....or, no network over 74 million wanted the games and this was the only national network that would take them. It could be ESPN would have been in breach if they didn't show them, so the AAC let them off the hook by accepting a smaller national carrier for a small chunk of the games. Anyway you slice it, the exposure is less than promised, a troubling pattern with the slicker than Crisco Aresco.
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This is just bloody awful, Espn bends people over every which way. When I read the defending national champ Louisville Cardinals were going to be featured on CBSSN I just 03-puke

There is no upside to this, at all....
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(08-21-2013 01:34 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Anyway you slice it, the exposure is less than promised, a troubling pattern with the slicker than Crisco Aresco.

I'm sure the millions of Coog fans that watch UH won't notice a difference. Houston is an aac town.01-ncaabbs

Oh wait05-nono

Edit:: Will "to go box tommy" return to Texas be televised at Rice Stadium?

I can't wait to post the Houston Chronicle weekly football TV ratings.
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I understood this to be for UL that 5 basketball games would be on CBSSN now instead of ESPN family, nothing to do with football. So if that's the case, and the city of Louisville subscribers (like myself) for the most part don't have CBSSN then they are gambling that the conference cash cow and others with a significant tv rating impact in the conference will purchase the channel/sports package to get that channel. Not sure what I'll do yet, until those 5 games are announced for us.
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Didn't Arseco come from CBS Sports? Seems like a conflict of interest.

I also wonder if ESPN trying to get some money back for upcoming B1G negotiations.
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What this all comes down to is Aresco is a liar. He repeatedly said games would only be sub-licensed to networks with 74 million subscribers or more, on numerous occasions from the original press conference announcing the deal, to a CBS interview, to an interview with Tim Brando, and probably a few other places. He's always been a liar, but now he's been flat out caught in an extremely public lie about the one portion of his TV deal that he's been selling, the exposure. He's a liar, an idiot, a snake, and he should have been fired months ago.
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I literally downgraded my cable package yesterday and got rid of CBS Sportsnet. Aresco has been a complete failure and has now made my life more difficult than it has to be. I am jumping on the fire Aresco train.

Oh, and John, your an insecure tool and I do feel bad for you. 05-nono

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lol no im not
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(08-20-2013 08:13 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  The reality was that pretty much every game headed to CBSS would have been on ESPN3 if not sold.

This is where I disagree asf..

While I'm no fan of E***.. They did at least have a variety of networks (E2, EClassic, ENews, E) in which you had a possibility of showing up on.

CBS-SN has one network channel and their first and foremost priority is to the service academies.

So that leaves 2 possible slots to play a game on (Noon or 3pm, depending on which service academy CBS is showing and the late night game.)

Almost every C-USA game that was on CBS-SN was a SMU or Tulsa game last year.
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