Paul M
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RE: Is anyone here a haulocost denier?
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AngryAphid
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RE: Is anyone here a haulocost denier?
(08-16-2013 07:45 PM)Paul M Wrote: (08-16-2013 09:38 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: (08-15-2013 04:18 PM)Paul M Wrote: (08-15-2013 08:25 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: No one with any intelligence rejects the final solution.
BTW...Lighten up on the spelling bashing. We are not writing a damn thesis here.
I would ask that you address me directly, good sir.


The ironic thing is I spell checked thesis.
5 years in and Opera's web browser spell checker still flags Obama. It suggests Bamako, Alabama, Mamba, Bahama, Abeam, Obadias.
Make sense, Obadias means servant of God in Portuguese.
And Obama is a servant of God… much like Nebuchadnezzar was.
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I45owl
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Is anyone here a haulocost denier?
(08-16-2013 07:36 AM)AngryAphid Wrote: (08-15-2013 04:03 PM)I45owl Wrote: (08-15-2013 10:41 AM)AngryAphid Wrote: (08-15-2013 06:55 AM)I45owl Wrote: (08-14-2013 09:05 PM)WMD Owl Wrote: I would like the Museum cover other episodes of genocide as well. What happened to the Jews also happened to the Chinese during the Cultural Revolution, in Cambodia, in Rwanda, in North Korea, in Burma.
I disagree to this to an extent... it seems the same as diluting things like amber alerts with the horrid "my ex-husband didn't drop off the kids on time" (those were explicitly and puposefully excluded in the original alerts). The holocaust was a singular event and I think deserves to be remembered in its own context. That said, I think that "never again" places a unique burden on Jews worldwide to expose, prevent, and relieve genocide worldwide when it does occur.
One of the problems with what you propose is that Armenians would certainly demand their own sections, and once you do so, it becomes a target of derision from Turks, and the message for Muslims is that you equate the Holocaust, which hopefully one day Muslims will stop disputing in large numbers, with the vehemently disputed Armenian genocide, which was purportedly committed by Muslims, and as long as Turkey disputes it, probably would not be accepted by the Muslim world.
Holocaust means burnt offering.
Ignoring the etymology and limiting the term to one hyperbolically labeled event is crazy talk.
But it's what we do in America, we advantageously change the meaning of words.
The purpose of the museums are to commemorate the event and the purposeful, overt, and systematic attempt to extinguish a race. Focussing on etymology and calling the use of the word hyperbole is just an incremental step above the spelling corrections above in is thread. The museums weren't created to commemorate a word and then seek instances for which they apply...
I'm fully support the mission of the museum(s), and I have no problem with them calling it "Holocaust".
I'm saying we shouldn't take a term like Holocaust and exclusively apply it to one event. Particularly when the word has an ordinal distinct meaning quite different from it's present exaggerated use.
If we are going to solely assign words to one isolated event, we should go ahead and give the word Pink to Susan G. Komen.
Fair enough. I guess I just read more into what you said than what you had really intended. I have no issue with usage of the word or with describing other events as holocausts or genocides on similar scope and significance.
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RE: Is anyone here a haulocost denier?
(08-14-2013 09:01 AM)Smaug Wrote: Anyone who would deny the Holocaust would have to ignore the tonnage of documentary evidence the damn Nazis left behind. They were meticulous record keepers.
True. This is one of the biggest reasons why the holocaust which they perpetrated is so well-known, whereas the holocausts perpetrated by the Soviets, the Maoists, the Khmer Rouge, etc., are still kind of fuzzy in the Western/academic world.
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oklalittledixie
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RE: Is anyone here a haulocost denier?
(08-19-2013 10:09 PM)Native Georgian Wrote: (08-14-2013 09:01 AM)Smaug Wrote: Anyone who would deny the Holocaust would have to ignore the tonnage of documentary evidence the damn Nazis left behind. They were meticulous record keepers.
True. This is one of the biggest reasons why the holocaust which they perpetrated is so well-known, whereas the holocausts perpetrated by the Soviets, the Maoists, the Khmer Rouge, etc., are still kind of fuzzy in the Western/academic world.
It's a troll thread. Just a heads up.
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AngryAphid
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