Very good player...came out of Louisville Seneca High School and is a huge target...over 6-6 in height.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball...om-program

(08-12-2013 08:21 AM)Maize Wrote:  Very good player...came out of Louisville Seneca High School and is a huge target...over 6-6 in height.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball...om-program

Standing 6-foot-6, 195-pounds, McKay is looking to have a chance to play this fall for the Bearcats as he’s requested a hardship waiver from the NCAA to become eligible for the 2013 season.

http://cincinnati.scout.com/2/1315133.html

I read he runs a 4.45 40 or there abouts....

(08-12-2013 08:32 AM)Bearcat2012 Wrote:  
Standing 6-foot-6, 195-pounds, McKay is looking to have a chance to play this fall for the Bearcats as he’s requested a hardship waiver from the NCAA to become eligible for the 2013 season.

http://cincinnati.scout.com/2/1315133.html

Man that's skinny! Can he get off the LOS on press coverage? Hope he takes the year to gain weight and strength.

(08-12-2013 09:22 AM)sfink16 Wrote:  

(08-12-2013 08:32 AM)Bearcat2012 Wrote:  
Standing 6-foot-6, 195-pounds, McKay is looking to have a chance to play this fall for the Bearcats as he’s requested a hardship waiver from the NCAA to become eligible for the 2013 season.

http://cincinnati.scout.com/2/1315133.html

Man that's skinny! Can he get off the LOS on press coverage? Hope he takes the year to gain weight and strength.

Apparently, he can. He was the Razorback's leading receiver.

Tall fast receivers like that create match up nightmares for all the 5ft 10in to 6 foot tall corners. I'm sure the UC strength and condition staff will put 20 pounds of muscle on this kid.

Great get UC, i'm sure he will be a difference maker.

(08-12-2013 09:22 AM)sfink16 Wrote:  

(08-12-2013 08:32 AM)Bearcat2012 Wrote:  
Standing 6-foot-6, 195-pounds, McKay is looking to have a chance to play this fall for the Bearcats as he’s requested a hardship waiver from the NCAA to become eligible for the 2013 season.

http://cincinnati.scout.com/2/1315133.html

Man that's skinny! Can he get off the LOS on press coverage? Hope he takes the year to gain weight and strength.

He was able to do it as a True Freshman playing against Alabama & LSU...

(08-12-2013 09:22 AM)sfink16 Wrote:  

(08-12-2013 08:32 AM)Bearcat2012 Wrote:  [i]
Standing 6-foot-6, 195-pounds,

Man that's skinny! Can he get off the LOS on press coverage? Hope he takes the year to gain weight and strength.

That's not necessarily "skinny" just not that big. When Terrance Williams was at Louisville (basketball) he was 6'6, 210



He was pretty ripped. I think you can take 15 lbs off of that and find something between skinny and ripped, no? Kobe Bryant is 6'6 and around 195lbs now. He's not "skinny."

(08-12-2013 08:21 AM)Maize Wrote:  Very good player...came out of Louisville Seneca High School and is a huge target...over 6-6 in height.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball...om-program

I heard he was looking at transferring to Louisville, but UL wasn't interested because his lack of a criminal record...

(08-12-2013 10:24 AM)adcorbett Wrote:  

(08-12-2013 09:22 AM)sfink16 Wrote:  

(08-12-2013 08:32 AM)Bearcat2012 Wrote:  [i]
Standing 6-foot-6, 195-pounds,

Man that's skinny! Can he get off the LOS on press coverage? Hope he takes the year to gain weight and strength.

That's not necessarily "skinny" just not that big. When Terrance Williams was at Louisville (basketball) he was 6'6, 210

He was pretty ripped. I think you can take 15 lbs off of that and find something between skinny and ripped, no? Kobe Bryant is 6'6 and around 195lbs now. He's not "skinny."

Kobe Bryant is not 195 lbs. Besides basketball weight and football weight are two different things. Terrance Williams would get crushed by Brian Dawkins (if he was still playing) if he was a wide receiver coming across the middle. The dude has no triceps or pec muscles for football.

Ripped basketball players would not stand a chance against power football players in a power bench contest similar to body builders against power lifters in benching contest.

From a personal perspective, I'm 6'6" myself. I was a skinny kid at that age as well, about the same weight, but could easily do a two-handed dunk over some one playing a one-on-one basketball game. My body weight didn't catch up until I was about 25 years old, typical for tall male adults. Once I got up to 265 lbs. I could bench a lot but could no longer jump high enough to dunk.

Point is that the type of weight he puts on needs to be carefully put on in order to not reduce his speed.

(08-12-2013 10:51 AM)sfink16 Wrote:  Kobe Bryant is not 195 lbs.

Tell it ot Kobe. He says he is 180lbs.

(08-12-2013 10:51 AM)sfink16 Wrote:  Besides basketball weight and football weight are two different things. Terrance Williams would get crushed by Brian Dawkins (if he was still playing) if he was a wide receiver coming across the middle. The dude has no triceps or pec muscles for football.

No they are not. Basketball "build" and football build are different, but the weight itself is generally a reflection of muscle mass itselt. Sometimes football players tend to be built a little more sturdy down low, but WR's, DB's, TE's and safeties, are generally built just like basketball players in terms of legs, both in definition and girth. Further, as Williams was a first team all state wide receiver and safety in HS before playing basketball only his senior year, I sort of doubt he could not handle the hits of football.

(08-12-2013 11:08 AM)adcorbett Wrote:  No they are not. Basketball "build" and football build are different, but the weight itself is generally a reflection of muscle mass itselt. Sometimes football players tend to be built a little more sturdy down low, but WR's, DB's, TE's and safeties, are generally built just like basketball players in terms of legs, both in definition and girth. Further, as Williams was a first team all state wide receiver and safety in HS before playing basketball only his senior year, I sort of doubt he could not handle the hits of football.

As for lower body girth, tell that to Charles Barkley (Round Mound of Rebound). As for Williams, he may have received honors for catching passes but I doubt it had much to do with intimidating big WRs or TEs with big hits. Those tiny triceps tell me he probably can't bench his own weight, which is not unusual for lengthy males.

Besides, the HS level is quite away from D1 football. I remember the Philadelphia Phillies drafted a guy by the name of Jeff Jackson high in the first round because he hit over .500 in the Chicago baseball league. He never hit over .230 in AA baseball. HS stats and honors never predict what happens at the next level.

I will take him. Looks like a legit talent.

Not that I am comparing this player to Randy Moss in ability, but of similar height Moss only checked in at 197 pounds when he played for Marshall.

(08-12-2013 12:34 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Not that I am comparing this player to Randy Moss in ability, but of similar height Moss only checked in at 197 pounds when he played for Marshall.

Randy Moss was only 6'4" but weighed 210 in the pros (not sure what he weighed at Marshall). Regardless, he also ran a 4.25, fast enough to scare DBs not to press cover him and have him run by them.

This kid is a hell of a talent. Also maize sorry buddy but he graduated from Moore not Seneca.Lol However i would love to see him on Uofls campus but damn good get Cincy plus he's a hell of a basketball player. That's why he went to Arkansas to begin with to play both sports. He went to originally play for petrino.

He isn't quite as good as devante parker or james quick but he's right up there as far as local talent who's came out of Louisville. Again he will fit in well at cincy and by all accounts he's a good kid. Still wish we had him again nice pick up for cincy.

Rutgers fans everywhere are rejoicing

(08-12-2013 02:07 PM)sfink16 Wrote:  Randy Moss was only 6'4" but weighed 210 in the pros (not sure what he weighed at Marshall). Regardless, he also ran a 4.25, fast enough to scare DBs not to press cover him and have him run by them.

He was "listed" at 6'5 and 197 in college though. That is important because you the listing is all you have to go on. You can't compare what you think is the actual height of one player to the roster listing for the other, and not account for adjustments. Standing next to him while he is on the field back in January of 2002, I can tell you that in spikes he is every bit of 6'5, with really long arms, and was not remotely 210 lbs dripping wet.

Having spent my days working for an NFL team and seeing players up close and personal when they do the weigh ins, and comparing to what is listed on the rosters, I can tell you there is often no correlation in terms of weight. For that matter height and weights were usually taken directly from college rosters (which often came from HS rosters) and are not generally changed. Only in the last couple of years when the NFL combine became a public event (and the NBA as well) have teams really started adjusting then, weight is rarely ever changed on a roster despite fluxuations throughout their career.
And having seen Moss up close and personal on the field during games when he was a pro, and he was not 210 lbs.