(08-10-2013 12:17 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  Brady says stAte will be better this year than last because we had guys siting out are better than seniors Finn, Peterson, and Hooten - and that doesn't include the return of Brandon Reed. stAte was the highest rated team in the Sun Belt based on last year's Kenpom ratings, so I'm not the least bit afraid of Western Kentucky.


134. stAte 19-12
157. Texas Arlington 19-14
174. Western Kentucky 20-16
175. Georgia State 15-16
195. South Alabama 17-13
228. Arkansas Little Rock 17-15
232. UL Lafayette 13-20
240. Texas State 12-22
275. Troy 12-21
329. ULM 4-23

Now I suppose everyone thinks their team will be better this year than last year, so we'll just have to wait and see . . .

SAY IT AIN'T SO!!!! BETTER THAN THE MAYOR OF JONESBORO????

DID YOU FORGET ALL THE LITTLE THINGS HE DID THAT OUTISIDERS WHO ONLY LOOK AT HIS NUMBERS DON'T NOTICE??????????

i got crucified for saying he was a scrub when he was putting up scrub numbers but now ya'll have super-studs sitting out better than him???

all kidding aside i expect asu to be very good.....in conference....because let's face it.....brady doesn't give two schitts malt liquors about out of conference.

i believe ya'll signed a few 'one year wonders' didn't you? a coach doesn't do that unless they can really bring game to the table. brady almost HAS to do something this year or he's pretty much put up dick nutt numbers.

i know you guys will counter with how bad dick nutt screwed you scholly wise blah blah but there's no way he really screwed you worse than ronald mcdonald did us.

again....i expect the red woofs to be a handful this year.

(08-10-2013 01:38 PM)dahbeed Wrote:  

(08-10-2013 12:17 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  Brady says stAte will be better this year than last because we had guys siting out are better than seniors Finn, Peterson, and Hooten - and that doesn't include the return of Brandon Reed. stAte was the highest rated team in the Sun Belt based on last year's Kenpom ratings, so I'm not the least bit afraid of Western Kentucky.


134. stAte 19-12
157. Texas Arlington 19-14
174. Western Kentucky 20-16
175. Georgia State 15-16
195. South Alabama 17-13
228. Arkansas Little Rock 17-15
232. UL Lafayette 13-20
240. Texas State 12-22
275. Troy 12-21
329. ULM 4-23

Now I suppose everyone thinks their team will be better this year than last year, so we'll just have to wait and see . . .

SAY IT AIN'T SO!!!! BETTER THAN THE MAYOR OF JONESBORO????

DID YOU FORGET ALL THE LITTLE THINGS HE DID THAT OUTISIDERS WHO ONLY LOOK AT HIS NUMBERS DON'T NOTICE??????????

i got crucified for saying he was a scrub when he was putting up scrub numbers but now ya'll have super-studs sitting out better than him???

all kidding aside i expect asu to be very good.....in conference....because let's face it.....brady doesn't give two schitts malt liquors about out of conference.

i believe ya'll signed a few 'one year wonders' didn't you? a coach doesn't do that unless they can really bring game to the table. brady almost HAS to do something this year or he's pretty much put up dick nutt numbers.

i know you guys will counter with how bad dick nutt screwed you scholly wise blah blah but there's no way he really screwed you worse than ronald mcdonald did us.

again....i expect the red woofs to be a handful this year.

hyperbolic 'beed . . . the antidote for message bored-dom.

(08-10-2013 12:17 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  Brady says stAte will be better this year than last because we had guys siting out are better than seniors Finn, Peterson, and Hooten - and that doesn't include the return of Brandon Reed. stAte was the highest rated team in the Sun Belt based on last year's Kenpom ratings, so I'm not the least bit afraid of Western Kentucky.


134. stAte 19-12
157. Texas Arlington 19-14
174. Western Kentucky 20-16
175. Georgia State 15-16
195. South Alabama 17-13
228. Arkansas Little Rock 17-15
232. UL Lafayette 13-20
240. Texas State 12-22
275. Troy 12-21
329. ULM 4-23

Now I suppose everyone thinks their team will be better this year than last year, so we'll just have to wait and see . . .

Well USA did have the 2nd best record in the league last year, after MTSU. And that was with an interim coach. We have the Sun Belt Player of the Year coming back. I think USA will be just fine and I am not scared of ASU or WKU lol.

#9.

In my opinion, the 2013 WAC and 2014 SBC are comparable in terms of the teams. WKU, Arkansas Sate and USA are similar to LA Tech, NMSU and Utah St. Troy and ULM and are similar to UTSA (they are going to get trounced in C-USA, even a watered down one) and San Jose St and UTA and TXST are similar to...UTA and TXST. There are always unknowns, like coaching changes and player development, but I'd expect similar standings from the past.

The only real unknown is how Georgia State will do coming from the Colonial. The Colonial and SBC just don't compare well. Plus the Kentucky transfer helps an already experienced team.

You want to have similar results from TXST that we've had the past decade. Don't deny it because it bleeds through all of your BB posts.

I want to see improved performance from a new coach, a new set of players (and style of play) and being in a new conference and I feel that is what you will see.

Davalos and his horrendous attempt at coaching DI are gone. There's a new sheriff and new players in town. I think we have 8 guys from last years' team. That's a lot of new blood (8) and infusion into the program. We won't take the SBC by storm but we're not going to be an easy win, either.

^It's not that I want, it is what I have observed. It has been 11 years since your last winning season. That isn't just Davalos. Until the Bobcats show something different on the court, there can't be any well Kaspar is here and everything is different.

Understand that at UTA, a school without a football rival component, we consider TXST one of our biggest rivals, behind UNT. If you elevate your game, we benefit. Heck Kaspar was one of the biggest reasons we hated SFA (though not the only). It is a love/hate thing with him and I am very glad he was able to make it into the conference we are now in.

Yes Kaspar is here, but none of the players are his recruits. They were recruited to an up tempo style of play, which is the very antithesis of his style. I fully expect two years before he finally is able to do what he normally does. Joel Wright is a great example. He scored lots and lots of points, simply because TXST ran up and down the court. What happens when he plays a half court game? There is just no way he puts up the same numbers.

Part of it is also my bluntness. We have a team that was won 43 games in two years, played in two consecutive postseason tourney's, have a coach listed in a top ten up and comers list by ESPN, and we get picked behind three teams that collectively haven't had a winning season since 09/10 and collectively have had three winning seasons since 04/05?

I didn't want to get into it much, since it is minutiae but since I am on the rant, UTA made one postseason appearance BC (before Cross). We are now at four. We had a total of one regular and postseason conference championship. We now have three. We have one coach who has a career winning record, Coach Cross. In my time observing the team, we have one coach who has instituted a system based on defense, Coach Cross. All that was done with Texas Hall serving as the home court. I don't expect many SBCers to know what a liability that is, but folks at Texas State sure should. He did most of that there. Now he has CPC on top of all that? The last place prediction just bristles me.

I know Pappy doesn't know the specifics of every team, but given the past history, there should be no way UTA is picked last when Troy, ULM and TXST have the recent history they do. I hope, for the conferences sake, they all do better, but pure statistics indicates at least one will and likely two. I could buy the part about the SBC being a better basketball conference when UTA was in the SLC, but they did what they usually do under Cross in what was supposed to be a rebuilding year in a competitively comparable WAC. They won't be last. Given the history, even with Kaspar, TXST, Troy and ULM are all more likely to hold that title.

(08-13-2013 04:41 PM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote:  In my opinion, the 2013 WAC and 2014 SBC are comparable in terms of the teams. WKU, Arkansas Sate and USA are similar to LA Tech, NMSU and Utah St. Troy and ULM and are similar to UTSA (they are going to get trounced in C-USA, even a watered down one) and San Jose St and UTA and TXST are similar to...UTA and TXST. There are always unknowns, like coaching changes and player development, but I'd expect similar standings from the past.

The only real unknown is how Georgia State will do coming from the Colonial. The Colonial and SBC just don't compare well. Plus the Kentucky transfer helps an already experienced team.

Just because he played at UK does not mean he is all world....He looked horrible last season in a very down SEC ...I am sure he will help Georgia St. some, but some posters are implying Georgia St. will waltz in Sun Belt and dominate, I do not see it happening...Georgia St. will finish behind WKU, ULL, and USA at least....

(08-14-2013 07:38 AM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote:  ^It's not that I want, it is what I have observed. It has been 11 years since your last winning season. That isn't just Davalos. Until the Bobcats show something different on the court, there can't be any well Kaspar is here and everything is different.

Understand that at UTA, a school without a football rival component, we consider TXST one of our biggest rivals, behind UNT. If you elevate your game, we benefit. Heck Kaspar was one of the biggest reasons we hated SFA (though not the only). It is a love/hate thing with him and I am very glad he was able to make it into the conference we are now in.

Yes Kaspar is here, but none of the players are his recruits. They were recruited to an up tempo style of play, which is the very antithesis of his style. I fully expect two years before he finally is able to do what he normally does. Joel Wright is a great example. He scored lots and lots of points, simply because TXST ran up and down the court. What happens when he plays a half court game? There is just no way he puts up the same numbers.

Part of it is also my bluntness. We have a team that was won 43 games in two years, played in two consecutive postseason tourney's, have a coach listed in a top ten up and comers list by ESPN, and we get picked behind three teams that collectively haven't had a winning season since 09/10 and collectively have had three winning seasons since 04/05?

I didn't want to get into it much, since it is minutiae but since I am on the rant, UTA made one postseason appearance BC (before Cross). We are now at four. We had a total of one regular and postseason conference championship. We now have three. We have one coach who has a career winning record, Coach Cross. In my time observing the team, we have one coach who has instituted a system based on defense, Coach Cross. All that was done with Texas Hall serving as the home court. I don't expect many SBCers to know what a liability that is, but folks at Texas State sure should. He did most of that there. Now he has CPC on top of all that? The last place prediction just bristles me.

I know Pappy doesn't know the specifics of every team, but given the past history, there should be no way UTA is picked last when Troy, ULM and TXST have the recent history they do. I hope, for the conferences sake, they all do better, but pure statistics indicates at least one will and likely two. I could buy the part about the SBC being a better basketball conference when UTA was in the SLC, but they did what they usually do under Cross in what was supposed to be a rebuilding year in a competitively comparable WAC. They won't be last. Given the history, even with Kaspar, TXST, Troy and ULM are all more likely to hold that title.

Only postseason that matters is NCAA tournament, if you are counting the CBS and CBT tournaments than that does not indicate anything...I think you guys can finish around middle of pack first year.

I'm sorry we aren't was awesome as the great 'toppers, but for our first 50 years as a four-year U, we made one at-large NIT berth (losing to USA in '81). I will take one NCAA, one NIT and one CIT since '08. There may be a time when we are as jaded as you, but right now, we are happy to play past the conference tournament.

I don't expect too much from Texas St this year. It will be improved from last year but I think it will take a year or two to bring in the players, get them experience, and run the new system. Then I hope we start playing to conference titles.

But good thing the mighty WKU will be gone because there is no way we could ever beat them.

(08-14-2013 09:41 AM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote:  I'm sorry we aren't was awesome as the great 'toppers, but for our first 50 years as a four-year U, we made one at-large NIT berth (losing to USA in '81). I will take one NCAA, one NIT and one CIT since '08. There may be a time when we are as jaded as you, but right now, we are happy to play past the conference tournament.

I was at that nit game against usa..it was a pretty good game. could have gone either way until we made a bad pass with time running out, I thought we were going to pull it out. we sat right behind our team and behind us were many rows of yelling, cursing, spitting usa fans..they were crowded all around us yelling at us and our players..the only other fans I've ever seen with that level of rudeness were at an arkansas game. that was a long time ago and I am looking forward to our games with them now that we are in the same conference.

(08-09-2013 07:28 AM)insideualr Wrote:  

(08-09-2013 07:16 AM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote:  ^I agree with that, just based on what I have seen here.

There are two fundamental problems with predicting things.

1) Even in a situation where you know ever team, there are surprises (UNT and Tony Mitchell come to mind). Injuries, outstanding freshman, coaching changes or even just a huge improvement in player development can make projecting the standings unpredictable.

2) There will be three new teams in the mix and four old teams out. How do you factor in UTA and Texas State from the WAC along with Georgia State from the Colonial to go with the seven remaining SBC teams? At best it is a guess. Combined with number one, preseason predictions for any conference won't be worth as much as previous years.

I can't speak for Pappy, but because of the relationship between all the teams, I followed the SBC and the SLC the most, with the WAC being in the mix last year. There are only two things I can tell you for sure, UTA won't be tenth and Kaspar will have improved TXST. Other than that, it is nothing more than a crap shoot right now.

You are correct.

This is still better than any of the preseason magazines because pappy follows mid major ball and the sbc closer than just about anyone i know.

Enjoy it for what it is, talking points before the bb season.


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Does UALR play D1 basketball?

Do they have the same chance to win a NCAA championship as any of the other 347 D1 schools?

Do you not have 13 scholarship players?

Do you not follow all the rules the other 347 D1 schools play by?

If your answer to those questions yes then why would you insult your program by calling them "mid major"? Id your school is D1 they are just as "major" as any other school.

Let me guess you are a espn baby and know no difference than what they brainwashed you into thinking over the last 25 or so years.

(08-14-2013 01:41 PM)runamuck Wrote:  

(08-14-2013 09:41 AM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote:  I'm sorry we aren't was awesome as the great 'toppers, but for our first 50 years as a four-year U, we made one at-large NIT berth (losing to USA in '81). I will take one NCAA, one NIT and one CIT since '08. There may be a time when we are as jaded as you, but right now, we are happy to play past the conference tournament.

I was at that nit game against usa..it was a pretty good game. could have gone either way until we made a bad pass with time running out, I thought we were going to pull it out. we sat right behind our team and behind us were many rows of yelling, cursing, spitting usa fans..they were crowded all around us yelling at us and our players..the only other fans I've ever seen with that level of rudeness were at an arkansas game. that was a long time ago and I am looking forward to our games with them now that we are in the same conference.

That doesn't sound typical of our fanbase. But that was before I was born too. Interest in USA basketball reached a lot of people at that time and the fans were quite passionate. The soaring popularity in football kind of changed the complexion of college basketball at USA and many other colleges. There's no telling who all was part of that group. But it's not like that now. If you make it to Mobile for a game I think you would find we are nice, pleasant group of people.

(08-10-2013 12:17 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  Brady says stAte will be better this year than last because we had guys siting out are better than seniors Finn, Peterson, and Hooten - and that doesn't include the return of Brandon Reed. stAte was the highest rated team in the Sun Belt based on last year's Kenpom ratings, so I'm not the least bit afraid of Western Kentucky.


134. stAte 19-12
157. Texas Arlington 19-14
174. Western Kentucky 20-16
175. Georgia State 15-16
195. South Alabama 17-13
228. Arkansas Little Rock 17-15
232. UL Lafayette 13-20
240. Texas State 12-22
275. Troy 12-21
329. ULM 4-23

Now I suppose everyone thinks their team will be better this year than last year, so we'll just have to wait and see . . .

What in the hell do you expect Brady to say after basically selling out the next few years of Ark St basketball for a team made up of 23% of one and done players? What I see is desperation on the part of Brady and never under estimate heart and Sr leadership...

you rarely get those from one year players.

(08-14-2013 02:06 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(08-10-2013 12:17 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  Brady says stAte will be better this year than last because we had guys siting out are better than seniors Finn, Peterson, and Hooten - and that doesn't include the return of Brandon Reed. stAte was the highest rated team in the Sun Belt based on last year's Kenpom ratings, so I'm not the least bit afraid of Western Kentucky.


134. stAte 19-12
157. Texas Arlington 19-14
174. Western Kentucky 20-16
175. Georgia State 15-16
195. South Alabama 17-13
228. Arkansas Little Rock 17-15
232. UL Lafayette 13-20
240. Texas State 12-22
275. Troy 12-21
329. ULM 4-23

Now I suppose everyone thinks their team will be better this year than last year, so we'll just have to wait and see . . .

What in the hell do you expect Brady to say after basically selling out the next few years of Ark St basketball for a team made up of 23% of one and done players? What I see is desperation on the part of Brady and never under estimate heart and Sr leadership...

you rarely get those from one year players.

I don't "expect" Brady to say anything.

I do expect stAte will be good this year, and next year when these 4 seniors are gone. Cam Golden, Kelvin Downs, and Gator Worsham are going to be very experienced juniors.

(08-14-2013 09:41 AM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote:  I'm sorry we aren't was awesome as the great 'toppers, but for our first 50 years as a four-year U, we made one at-large NIT berth (losing to USA in '81). I will take one NCAA, one NIT and one CIT since '08. There may be a time when we are as jaded as you, but right now, we are happy to play past the conference tournament.

in our first 50 years we made two final fours...also, dont count the cit. that's just embarrassing...

(08-14-2013 08:14 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 04:41 PM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote:  In my opinion, the 2013 WAC and 2014 SBC are comparable in terms of the teams. WKU, Arkansas Sate and USA are similar to LA Tech, NMSU and Utah St. Troy and ULM and are similar to UTSA (they are going to get trounced in C-USA, even a watered down one) and San Jose St and UTA and TXST are similar to...UTA and TXST. There are always unknowns, like coaching changes and player development, but I'd expect similar standings from the past.

The only real unknown is how Georgia State will do coming from the Colonial. The Colonial and SBC just don't compare well. Plus the Kentucky transfer helps an already experienced team.

Just because he played at UK does not mean he is all world....He looked horrible last season in a very down SEC ...I am sure he will help Georgia St. some, but some posters are implying Georgia St. will waltz in Sun Belt and dominate, I do not see it happening...Georgia St. will finish behind WKU, ULL, and USA at least....

Hahahahaha

(08-15-2013 09:33 AM)GaStPanthers Wrote:  

(08-14-2013 08:14 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 04:41 PM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote:  In my opinion, the 2013 WAC and 2014 SBC are comparable in terms of the teams. WKU, Arkansas Sate and USA are similar to LA Tech, NMSU and Utah St. Troy and ULM and are similar to UTSA (they are going to get trounced in C-USA, even a watered down one) and San Jose St and UTA and TXST are similar to...UTA and TXST. There are always unknowns, like coaching changes and player development, but I'd expect similar standings from the past.

The only real unknown is how Georgia State will do coming from the Colonial. The Colonial and SBC just don't compare well. Plus the Kentucky transfer helps an already experienced team.

Just because he played at UK does not mean he is all world....He looked horrible last season in a very down SEC ...I am sure he will help Georgia St. some, but some posters are implying Georgia St. will waltz in Sun Belt and dominate, I do not see it happening...Georgia St. will finish behind WKU, ULL, and USA at least....

Hahahahaha

Funny but true...What has Georgia St. done to believe otherwise? You guys went 15 and 16 last season and lost to Troy..I don't care if you have everyone plus Harrow coming back......You guys are not waltzing in Sun Belt and finishing in the top three, no way...