brista21
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RE: Why college football will be dead in 20 years
(07-24-2013 09:49 AM)krup Wrote: (07-24-2013 09:15 AM)brista21 Wrote: (07-24-2013 08:50 AM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote: I think this is alarmist tripe. There is no question that technological changes have forced colleges into change over the past several years and those changes will continue going forward. However, the notion that the University of Phoenix will somehow put out of business Arizona State is a little far-fetched to me. And when I say a little far fetched, I mean like one or two steps beyond Lord of the Rings far fetched.
I agree with you 100% on this. Couldn't have put it better.
I think it is overly alarmist but you can't ignore the bubble in college education that has occurred over the last few decades. An "okay" student that is good with their hands could be better served learning a trade instead of being just another person with a Business degree from a weak school that can't get a job.
I think the student loan crisis and the weak economy might finally put an end to the misconception that the goal should be for everyone to go to college. When that happens, some schools will go under (but it won't be the Arizona State types).
I'd say in this day and age even if you're learning a trade you need at least some college education. However, I think that college level education would be and should be an associate's degree. You need critical thinking skills no matter what and you should have some advanced level of the mainstays of education (reading, writing, mathematics, history, civics, sociology, basic business knowledge). A 2 year degree and that 1 to 2 years of trade school would be a great combination in the future economy. Better yet would be a hybrid between the traditional associate's degree and trade school.
And I do agree that its a misconception that everyone should go to college. However, I think more people need to go to a 4 year degree program (or even beyond) in today's economy than the economy of 1960s or 70s. Things are higher tech and that requires more education by nature.
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RE: Why college football will be dead in 20 years
Online classes are a complete joke. I'm tired of seeing people skate by through them.
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RE: Why college football will be dead in 20 years
(07-24-2013 02:06 PM)arkstfan Wrote: JRSEC, if not for the fact I don't want my kids to leave, I'd strongly urge them too. Right now it is more likely that a European will be in a higher social strata at age 40 than they were born into than it is for a US citizen.
The governments there encourage investment rather than consumption and people can go out on a limb to start a business without worrying about losing health coverage or being unable to pay for a good education for their kids. They have strict regulations but lack many of the carve-outs and exceptions that make it so difficult to comply (I am a former chief counsel of a state environmental agency and I can't explain most of it).
I usually agree with a lot of your post but not this one. Have you spent time in Europe recently? I have and it is a rough situation in many areas for the youth. Unemployment level for young people in Europe, especially Southern Europe, is scary. Many over there are calling it a lost generation. In Greece and Spain, it is over 50%. Even in countries like France it approaches 30%.
(This post was last modified: 07-24-2013 05:00 PM by Kwisatz100.)
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RE: Why college football will be dead in 20 years
(07-24-2013 02:06 PM)arkstfan Wrote: JRSEC, if not for the fact I don't want my kids to leave, I'd strongly urge them too. Right now it is more likely that a European will be in a higher social strata at age 40 than they were born into than it is for a US citizen.
The governments there encourage investment rather than consumption and people can go out on a limb to start a business without worrying about losing health coverage or being unable to pay for a good education for their kids. They have strict regulations but lack many of the carve-outs and exceptions that make it so difficult to comply (I am a former chief counsel of a state environmental agency and I can't explain most of it).
Jah! Ich weiss dass. One of my daughters and her husband already have strong ties to Europe. The problem will be with the U.S. end not the European. Why do you think we have to have a passport to exit to Canada or Mexico and that there are laws prohibiting the taking of tangible valuables with you if you leave? The money is worthless so transfer of it is irrelevant to a certain extent. Other wealth however remains subject to future confiscatory laws. So my point is there will be restrictions on passports and those of us still here will be locked into position until they have taxed, or confiscated, what they deem they need. Moving to Europe is something that your and my children need to do now, as the window to do so will close in the not too distant future, and if they wait until the currency is worth far less their ability to make the transition may be severely hampered.
(This post was last modified: 07-28-2013 09:29 AM by JRsec.)
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arkstfan
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RE: Why college football will be dead in 20 years
(07-24-2013 04:59 PM)Kwisatz100 Wrote: (07-24-2013 02:06 PM)arkstfan Wrote: JRSEC, if not for the fact I don't want my kids to leave, I'd strongly urge them too. Right now it is more likely that a European will be in a higher social strata at age 40 than they were born into than it is for a US citizen.
The governments there encourage investment rather than consumption and people can go out on a limb to start a business without worrying about losing health coverage or being unable to pay for a good education for their kids. They have strict regulations but lack many of the carve-outs and exceptions that make it so difficult to comply (I am a former chief counsel of a state environmental agency and I can't explain most of it).
I usually agree with a lot of your post but not this one. Have you spent time in Europe recently? I have and it is a rough situation in many areas for the youth. Unemployment level for young people in Europe, especially Southern Europe, is scary. Many over there are calling it a lost generation. In Greece and Spain, it is over 50%. Even in countries like France it approaches 30%.
Oh no doubt they are struggling. But they have governments that are more friendly to small business (who thought that'd ever be true 20 years ago) and their safety net will better position them for what's likely to happen soon.
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