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(07-17-2013 10:51 PM)RutgersMike Wrote:  When Temple beat Syracuse at MSG, SU was in the Top 10 I believe.

so you are talking in bb?

well......

louisville-duke
kentucky-louisville
osu-kansas
zona-florida

all come to mind for last year......

that is unless you are talking just mid majors
florida gulf coast-miami is a worth mention although miami was unranked at the time (finished in the top 10)

but to be clear you are basing this off one game (one by 4 pts) as your best reason for why temple bb is worthy of acc consideration. yeah they had a great year, but gimmie a freaking break. its been a decade since they got past the round of 32
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You missed the part where I said over the last FIVE years, meaning each season for FIVE years. Pick any team you'd like, because they haven't done it.
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Post: #43
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(07-17-2013 11:05 PM)john01992 Wrote:  
(07-17-2013 10:51 PM)RutgersMike Wrote:  When Temple beat Syracuse at MSG, SU was in the Top 10 I believe.

so you are talking in bb?

well......

louisville-duke
kentucky-louisville
osu-kansas
zona-florida

all come to mind for last year......

that is unless you are talking just mid majors
florida gulf coast-miami is a worth mention although miami was unranked at the time (finished in the top 10)

but to be clear you are basing this off one game (one by 4 pts) as your best reason for why temple bb is worthy of acc consideration. yeah they had a great year, but gimmie a freaking break. its been a decade since they got past the round of 32

I didn't make the original claim about Temple being the only mid-major to beat a Top 10 team OOC. I just answered your question.
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(07-17-2013 11:11 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  You missed the part where I said over the last FIVE years, meaning each season for FIVE years. Pick any team you'd like, because they haven't done it.

gotcha
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oh 5 straight....

well congratz
however.....

1) gtown makes more Cinderella's than disney so im really not surprised they are part of the streak

2) you could just as easily turn this stat into "teams that have beating a top 10 team 5 straight years" and easily get a long list of teams

3) this is kinda like the bsu excuse. playing a bunch of weak teams & beating one good team a year just isnt impressive imo. its good no doubt but lets see how they do in a big boy league (although the aac is nothing like the old big east)

4) this is a pretty pathetic stat to revert to for a team #6 on the all time wins list
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(07-17-2013 11:14 PM)john01992 Wrote:  
(07-17-2013 11:11 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  You missed the part where I said over the last FIVE years, meaning each season for FIVE years. Pick any team you'd like, because they haven't done it.

you have a website source for that? cuz im seriously calling BS

and like i said i just mentioned a bunch from bcs conferences that have done it

Find any other school that has done it. Your reading comprehension is not very good. Temple has beaten a top 10 team out of conference five straight years. Not one year. Not two. Not three. Not four. Five.
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(07-17-2013 11:19 PM)john01992 Wrote:  http://espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=323500084

that was easy.......

You cannot read.
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like i said......

pretty pathetic for #6 all time wins
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and do you want me to list all the mid majors that have beaten gtown?
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Where'd you go to college?
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(07-17-2013 10:53 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  
(07-17-2013 09:27 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(07-17-2013 08:53 PM)FromTheInside Wrote:  When you put Cuse, duke, Pitt and crew bball in phili for games, the city will watch. That's cable boxes for the new acc network turned on. huge market.

Still not enough incentive to add a football program that brings less to the table than UConn, and a horrible baseball program.

Temple has more CWS appearances than:

Maryland
Pitt
VA Tech
Syracuse

Tied with Louisville, NC State, Notre Dame, Wake. We beat VA Tech this year, so we're doing something right.

Syracuse hasn't fielded a baseball team since the 70's.
07-18-2013 12:54 AM
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If they're going for the Philadelphia market, Villanova would be the better choice. Villanova has a better basketball program in the past decade and their football would have potential moving up to D1. Not to mention Villanova is a great academic school in a great area.
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(07-18-2013 12:59 AM)psualltheway5 Wrote:  If they're going for the Philadelphia market, Villanova would be the better choice. Villanova has a better basketball program in the past decade and their football would have potential moving up to D1. Not to mention Villanova is a great academic school in a great area.

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(07-17-2013 10:53 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  
(07-17-2013 09:27 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(07-17-2013 08:53 PM)FromTheInside Wrote:  When you put Cuse, duke, Pitt and crew bball in phili for games, the city will watch. That's cable boxes for the new acc network turned on. huge market.

Still not enough incentive to add a football program that brings less to the table than UConn, and a horrible baseball program.

Temple has more CWS appearances than:

Maryland
Pitt
VA Tech
Syracuse

Tied with Louisville, NC State, Notre Dame, Wake. We beat VA Tech this year, so we're doing something right.

You haven't been to the College World Series since the mid 1970's, and have only one regional appearance in 20 years. In that regional appearance you were sub .500 and only advanced because you got hot in the A10 tournament. In the same 20 year period you have finished above .500 only once.

Your baseball program would fare much like your football program in the ACC. Dead last by a long shot.
07-18-2013 04:42 AM
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(07-18-2013 12:54 AM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote:  
(07-17-2013 10:53 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  
(07-17-2013 09:27 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(07-17-2013 08:53 PM)FromTheInside Wrote:  When you put Cuse, duke, Pitt and crew bball in phili for games, the city will watch. That's cable boxes for the new acc network turned on. huge market.

Still not enough incentive to add a football program that brings less to the table than UConn, and a horrible baseball program.

Temple has more CWS appearances than:

Maryland
Pitt
VA Tech
Syracuse

Tied with Louisville, NC State, Notre Dame, Wake. We beat VA Tech this year, so we're doing something right.

Syracuse hasn't fielded a baseball team since the 70's.

For all intents and purposes neither has Temple.
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(07-17-2013 08:12 PM)john01992 Wrote:  
(07-17-2013 06:21 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  
(07-17-2013 05:25 PM)john01992 Wrote:  they have no athletics of note right now

That is ridiculous.

Other than that, due to your incorrect use of homonyms, misspelling of Philly, and generally disclosing known or vague info, it's hard to believe you. I think we are certainly a viable option for the ACC. When is another story.

do they have tremendous bb history? yes?

have they shown signs of success in bb recently? yes

have they done anything in the last 5 years in bb that makes them different from your average mid major? no

their fb is less than a decade away from being kicked out of a bcs conference for low attendance and came within one vote of being dropped from d1.

like i said no athletics of recent note

Actually 6 straight trips to the tournament is way more than your "average mid major" even if they only have 2 wins to show for it.
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Actually the idea that the ACC might have designs on the Philly market makes a lot of sense - especially in the aftermath of losing Maryland. Their "northeast presence" right now is very peripheral. But if they put together 2 of the 3 state schools in PA, bookending the state with Pitt & Temple, they can create statewide interest. They also put a school in the heart of the Mid Atlantic to balance BC's presence on the East Coast.

Temple has obvious deficiencies as a conference member, but with 16 member conferences, he power of an individual team may be less important than the access it brings to a TV market. I site the B1G's acquisitions of Rutgers and Maryland as examples.
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Just perusing this thread, folks try and keep it civil. For the most part you have so I'm not singling anyone out here. There's room for a constructive discussion here.

That being said john01992, Temple is definitely more than just a mid-major in basketball. They haven't gone on a tourney run recently, but they make it damn near every year.
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Wind the clock back 15 years and substitute Louisville for Temple. You would all have dismissed the possibility of Louisville ever getting an ACC invite. Yet next year they will be full members.

It won't happen in a year or two, but there will be additional opportunities to move. Temple and any school who wants to be part of the P5 need to be positioning themselves now.

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(07-18-2013 08:42 AM)Shannon Panther Wrote:  Wind the clock back 15 years and substitute Louisville for Temple. You would all have dismissed the possibility of Louisville ever getting an ACC invite. Yet next year they will be full members.
Very true. If UL can be in the ACC, if UU and CU can be in the Pac-12, if Mizzou can be in the SEC... Temple can be in the ACC.

Of course, the operative word here is "can".
Can =/= will.

To me, the main point here is that the ACC is "full" and is not looking to expand. Unless and until one or more of the ACC's current members ("current" = July 1, 2014) leaves the league for some other conference, I don't think the ACC will be receptive to adding anybody, unless a major team with a huge national following shows interest.

Quote:It won't happen in a year or two, but there will be additional opportunities to move. Temple and any school who wants to be part of the P5 need to be positioning themselves now.
Bolded part is the key. And I would change "a year or two" to "this decade, at least".
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