Maybe you had to be there to see the relevance.

(07-12-2013 07:06 PM)joshdude182 Wrote:  

(07-12-2013 06:55 PM)ODU AGGIE Wrote:  UNT aka North Texas State University -- The number one party school in the state of Texas -- at least it was in 1967!

Uh....it's 2013 now. I don't see the relevance.

Old Dominion College aka no university status -- at least it was in 1967!

Best small town in America sure does contain some highly sensitive folks. I read ODU AGGIES' post as complimentary in nature.

(07-12-2013 07:31 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(07-12-2013 07:06 PM)joshdude182 Wrote:  

(07-12-2013 06:55 PM)ODU AGGIE Wrote:  UNT aka North Texas State University -- The number one party school in the state of Texas -- at least it was in 1967!

Uh....it's 2013 now. I don't see the relevance.

Old Dominion College aka no university status -- at least it was in 1967!

Best small town in America sure does contain some highly sensitive folks. I read ODU AGGIES' post as complimentary in nature.

+ 1

(07-12-2013 07:34 PM)ODU AGGIE Wrote:  

(07-12-2013 07:31 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(07-12-2013 07:06 PM)joshdude182 Wrote:  

(07-12-2013 06:55 PM)ODU AGGIE Wrote:  UNT aka North Texas State University -- The number one party school in the state of Texas -- at least it was in 1967!

Uh....it's 2013 now. I don't see the relevance.

Old Dominion College aka no university status -- at least it was in 1967!

Best small town in America sure does contain some highly sensitive folks. I read ODU AGGIES' post as complimentary in nature.

+ 1

It's the internet, man. There are about 949,452,245,453 ways to read every statement. If it was complimentary, then I retract my previous comment!

(07-12-2013 07:39 PM)joshdude182 Wrote:  

(07-12-2013 07:34 PM)ODU AGGIE Wrote:  

(07-12-2013 07:31 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(07-12-2013 07:06 PM)joshdude182 Wrote:  

(07-12-2013 06:55 PM)ODU AGGIE Wrote:  UNT aka North Texas State University -- The number one party school in the state of Texas -- at least it was in 1967!

Uh....it's 2013 now. I don't see the relevance.

Old Dominion College aka no university status -- at least it was in 1967!

Best small town in America sure does contain some highly sensitive folks. I read ODU AGGIES' post as complimentary in nature.

+ 1

It's the internet, man. There are about 949,452,245,453 ways to read every statement. If it was complimentary, then I retract my previous comment!

949,452,245,454

(07-12-2013 07:43 PM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  

(07-12-2013 07:39 PM)joshdude182 Wrote:  

(07-12-2013 07:34 PM)ODU AGGIE Wrote:  

(07-12-2013 07:31 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(07-12-2013 07:06 PM)joshdude182 Wrote:  Uh....it's 2013 now. I don't see the relevance.

Old Dominion College aka no university status -- at least it was in 1967!

Best small town in America sure does contain some highly sensitive folks. I read ODU AGGIES' post as complimentary in nature.

+ 1

It's the internet, man. There are about 949,452,245,453 ways to read every statement. If it was complimentary, then I retract my previous comment!

949,452,245,454

Damn!

UNCC and ODU.........great upsides:)

(07-10-2013 05:47 PM)meangreener Wrote:  

(07-10-2013 05:41 PM)runamuck Wrote:  

(07-09-2013 01:23 AM)meangreener Wrote:  I don't understand how UNT isn't obvious to most people.

History: Check
Stadium: Check
City: Check
Student attendance: Check
Academic prestige: Check
Size: Check

All we have to do is win football games.

surely that was a tongue-in-check response..
history-ok
stadium-not bad
city- you're in Denton are you kidding..
student attendance- not so much, but getting better
academic prestige- I dont think so unless you are a music major
size- just one of many 30 something thousand schools in Texas

You go to UTA, the ugliest, most worthless school in Texas. It literally serves no point. It is a community college. UNT has way better academics than UTA, campus, student body, social life...just about everything. Denton is the best small town in America, Arlington is a concrete ghetto hellhole stuck in the middle of the worst metropolitan area in the South.

Your grammar is typical UTA.

yes it is a mystery why the Cowboys and Texas Rangers and Six Flags and GM would pick Arlington over such a gem as Denton..

(07-09-2013 10:39 AM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  

(07-09-2013 10:10 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(07-09-2013 09:57 AM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  

(07-09-2013 09:39 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(07-09-2013 09:04 AM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  Its a little different bonds. The Mac was content (and still is) on being a tight regional bus league with no desire to have more national appeal. That's not a jab to the Mac members (so dont come here talking sh!t Mac members) its just a true statement. Most level-headed Mac members will agree that the Mac has no desire to move a way from the bus league setup.

We wanted to expand our presence to more of a national scale while playing in states where the majority of our Alumni reside (in the south). It was a no-brainer for us to move on to CUSA and we have no regrets. The new additions of ODU, WKU, Charlotte, MTSU just further solidifies that we made the right move.

My point to you and other ECU fans is that your very own AD at the time (Holland) lobbied for CUSA to add eastern schools to form more rivalries and give fans a chance to travel to some of the games. CUSA ended up giving ECU and Marshall that very luxury only to see ECU bail chasing a few dollars and some failed promises. I'm sure the first few years in the American will be no big deal but once the rivalries heat up in CUSA with all the new eastern additions......and the stands start filling up with fans that can travel to the games, I think ECU will start to realize the mistake they made. Especially considering that both conferences have the same level of access.

And Holland essentially got pushed out the door because ECU fans (and especially the rich ones) completely disagreed with his pushing for ODU, Charlotte, and App. They viewed that as going back in time to the 1970's and the SOCON days and ruining everything ECU struggled for as an independent for 20+ years. Every argument you can make about why moving to C-USA was good for Marshall I can make about why the AAC move is good for ECU. Gets ECU more exposure on a national level, gets ECU playing games in areas where large pockets of our alumni reside (obviously we already play in NC, but we have big alumni bases in the DC area, and the New Jersey/Philly area). It also gives us a really big boost in hoops, which ECU finally giving serious effort to.

Well the ECU fans made a mistake IMO. Holland is a visionary and knows what's good for ECU and its long-term future and you guys pushed him out. Time will tell but I bet in 6-10 years the ECU fans will look back and realize that Holland was right. I dont agree with his stance on App but I do agree on his stance with ODU, Charlotte and his vision to create more regional sense in a conference that was as spread out as CUSA "was".

And I disagree that you guys get more exposure on a national level. About the same if you ask me.

I think of that bunch he was right to push for App and ODU the hardest, and I'm guessing your feelings towards App probably mirror most ECU fans feelings towards App, Charlotte, and ODU. As for the "national exposure" I hate even saying this because I despise them but ECU has essentially disappeared since we stopped playing games on ESPN. I remember being gung ho about the Fox deal when it happened, but I didn't realize what a burden that was going to be for ECU because of the fact that both the SEC and ACC have deals with FSN. Pretty much every ECU game on FSN there was some kind of issue with an ACC or SEC game having priority and the games having to be put on a special events channel locally and FSN games aren't completely national some places will get some games while others will get others. Hell in 2011 ECU hosted VT on FSN and it was not on FSN Carolinas because Wake-NC State had priority. Now maybe with FS1 this gets better for C-USA, but that's yet to be seen.

I have nothing against App. I just think that with Charlotte being a former member and located where they are it simply made more sense for CUSA. Charlotte brings much more to the table over what App would have brought. Charlotte will likely at some point be a host city for the CUSA basketball tournament as well as possibly being a host city for a future CUSA bowl tie-in. Not to mention that Charlotte is located in a booming area that will only grow as time goes on. Charlotte was a no-brainer for CUSA just like ODU was.

FS1 vs ESPN?.....Time will tell. ESPN is wanting to up its charges which likely means having to put ESPN on upper tier channels which a lot of people dont get or refuse to pay for. FS1 on the other hand is breaking in to the scene investing a ton of money to be in the mainstream and bust the ESPN stronghold that has existed for the last 10+ years. It will be interesting to see how it all pans out.

In a recent interview Holland confirmed his desire to get out of Conf USA. He was concerned about staying in the league because so many quality teams had left. Any notion that Holland wanted ECU to stay in Conf USA is revisionist history.

IMO, MTSU is the best addition to C-USA. They are located in the fastest growing population and economic area in Tennessee and boast the second highest enrollment in the state. They enjoyed success in the Sunbelt (e.g., last year earning an at-large bid) and will be competitive in football and men's and women's basketball on day one of C-USA.

I admit a bias because I hold a graduate degree from MTSU and I root for them when it does not conflict with the Tigers.

ODU

Recruiting, fan support/large enrollment, solid budget, no entertainment competition nearby, 1 of only 3 FBS in VA, current President and AD 110% pro athletics, solid start laying a foundation of winning.

(07-13-2013 07:41 AM)runamuck Wrote:  

(07-10-2013 05:47 PM)meangreener Wrote:  

(07-10-2013 05:41 PM)runamuck Wrote:  

(07-09-2013 01:23 AM)meangreener Wrote:  I don't understand how UNT isn't obvious to most people.

History: Check
Stadium: Check
City: Check
Student attendance: Check
Academic prestige: Check
Size: Check

All we have to do is win football games.

surely that was a tongue-in-check response..
history-ok
stadium-not bad
city- you're in Denton are you kidding..
student attendance- not so much, but getting better
academic prestige- I dont think so unless you are a music major
size- just one of many 30 something thousand schools in Texas

You go to UTA, the ugliest, most worthless school in Texas. It literally serves no point. It is a community college. UNT has way better academics than UTA, campus, student body, social life...just about everything. Denton is the best small town in America, Arlington is a concrete ghetto hellhole stuck in the middle of the worst metropolitan area in the South.

Your grammar is typical UTA.

yes it is a mystery why the Cowboys and Texas Rangers and Six Flags and GM would pick Arlington over such a gem as Denton..

Denton isn't a boring suburb with no culture or soul, like Arlington. It's not a crap suburb in the middle of Dallas and Fort Worth with cheap land willing to whore themselves out to big business. Sure, you can pay $60 to go to a crappy theme park, $200 to watch the Cowboys lose or $60 to boil alive at the Rangers ballpark...in Denton you can actually pay $20 to expand your intellectual horizons...we have so much more to do and we aren't a boring concrete suburb who whored themselves out to big business. Irving was where the Cowboys were at too, let me guess, that's a great city.

Arlington gets soulless big business because of it's location...and it's a ghetto.

Next one up.

Oh, and Denton isn't in the redneck Republican stronghold known as Tarrant County, so it has that going for it, too.

Never been to Denton but looking forward to going there come November when UTSA takes on UNT. So you guys need to tell us UTSA fans what there is to do and where the hang outs are.

FIU, FAU, UTSA, UNT and Charlotte will hopefully keep the TV package strong.

Tech, ODU, WKU, and MTSU will hopefully keep the competition strong.

(07-13-2013 03:03 PM)T_Won1 Wrote:  FIU, FAU, UTSA, UNT and Charlotte will hopefully keep the TV package strong.

Tech, ODU, WKU, and MTSU will hopefully keep the competition strong.

With FS having a great regional telecast system on top of FS1 and 2, i think our TV will stay strong. We will e able to pull good ratings for the regionally telecast games, while also getting the exposure of great national slots.

On top of that having great mbb and fball programs will also bring relevance.

(07-13-2013 01:37 PM)Runner Wrote:  Never been to Denton but looking forward to going there come November when UTSA takes on UNT. So you guys need to tell us UTSA fans what there is to do and where the hang outs are.

Ask on GMG.com before the game and we'd be glad to help you out! Looking forward to the game, y'all will bring a lot of fans!

ODU and Charlotte are first-tier.
The excitement over their fball teams, and their bball history makes them well-rounded. You add the potential following (large markets), and you've got a recipe for total success.

MT, UNT, and UTSA are second-tier.

And the rest follow.

(07-13-2013 11:29 PM)RUNVSFD MINER Wrote:  ODU and Charlotte are first-tier.
The excitement over their fball teams, and their bball history makes them well-rounded. You add the potential following (large markets), and you've got a recipe for total success.

MT, UNT, and UTSA are second-tier.

And the rest follow.

I am sorry, but after being in a conference with MTSU since 2001, WKU is the proven leader in revenue sports.

(07-13-2013 11:58 PM)TOPPERSonTOP Wrote:  

(07-13-2013 11:29 PM)RUNVSFD MINER Wrote:  ODU and Charlotte are first-tier.
The excitement over their fball teams, and their bball history makes them well-rounded. You add the potential following (large markets), and you've got a recipe for total success.

MT, UNT, and UTSA are second-tier.

And the rest follow.

I am sorry, but after being in a conference with MTSU since 2001, WKU is the proven leader in revenue sports.

Sorry, forgot about WKU. But I really don't know much about WKU. Other than watching them in the tourney a couple of times.