For those unfamilar -- 'Frank "the other Frank" the Tank' is a very knowlegable poster on various boards around the Internet. Here he's doing a Q & A on realignment in three parts --- the first being the affect of the recent conference Grant of Rights. The site is Burnt Orange Nation (Texas) >>>>

Quote:...To me, there are three key players to conference realignment stability (or instability): Texas, Notre Dame and North Carolina. As long as all three of those schools are happy, then it's tough to find much of a case for any of the 5 power conferences to proactively make moves. If any one of those three gets itchy, though, then that's where things get interesting again....

http://www.burntorangenation.com/2013/7/...k-the-tank

bout right

It was a fascinating read. It appears Texas is the catalyst of future realignment. Frank the Tank (he really should adopt a name befitting his penetrating analysis) thinks Texas will stay in the Big 12 unless the Longhorn Network fails. I think there are two other factors involved that are elemental drivers of human undertakings: fear and pride.

I am convinced that Texas fears the success of TX AM and the Longhorns are very proud of their preeminent status the State of Texas. The Longhorns will not stand idle if TX AM consistently shines in their new SEC home.

Love that movie.

The SEC took A&M in hopes of landing the horns someday. Folks in Texas know this.

(07-08-2013 09:11 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  It was a fascinating read. It appears Texas is the catalyst of future realignment. Frank the Tank (he really should adopt a name befitting his penetrating analysis) thinks Texas will stay in the Big 12 unless the Longhorn Network fails. I think there are two other factors involved that are elemental drivers of human undertakings: fear and pride.

I am convinced that Texas fears the success of TX AM and the Longhorns are very proud of their preeminent status the State of Texas. The Longhorns will not stand idle if TX AM consistently shines in their new SEC home.

I agree. Being from Texas, I have talked to many Longhorn and Aggies fans. A&Ms jump to the SEC and immediate first-year johnny football success in their new conference sat in the craw of many Texas fans.

(07-08-2013 11:38 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  The SEC took A&M in hopes of landing the horns someday. Folks in Texas know this.

But, that's not true. That's just what thousands of egotistical Longhorn fans are saying.(Not that SEC wouldn't take them, mind you)
They took A&M because this is war; and AM gives them a huge Texas/Big 12 footprint.
And various and sundry other reasons(recruiting,etc.).
AND if Texas isn't careful, the SEC will steal the Longhorn silverware.

Texas must strike back with a footprint in SEC territory.
I know a good-sized one that's available.

The SEC took A&M b/c A&M asked, and the SEC thought it made sense, not b/c the SEC was actively pursuing them.

I disagree with Frank The Tank. My belief is that the key program in the entire NCAA is Oklahoma. Heaven help us if the $EC is able to lure (wants) Oklahoma and Oklahoma State. If that happens, Texas is temporarily ******, and the Big 12 gets blown up. For that matter; the entire NCAA will get blown up.

(07-08-2013 11:38 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  The SEC took A&M in hopes of landing the horns someday. Folks in Texas know this.

Um, no.

But your statement an indication of Texas' biggest strength AND weakness.

That is, their sheer size and ego - Texas has a huge following and it would be very difficult to balance their demands with the SEC's media and revenue model. They want to be top-dog in any conference right out of the gate, and the SEC is too well established as a football brand with great media rights to kneel to those demands.

Of course, nobody can see 5/10/20 years ahead but I don't see the SEC's brand or media coverage (ESPN love-fest) diminishing any time in the near future.

Let's put it this way. As big and bad as UTexas IS, the SEC is big enough and bad enough to teach UT some humility if it feels the need.
That said, if Texas chooses to stand pat (and rest of B12 goes along), the SEC will eventually chew up, spit out, and belch the Big 12.

(07-09-2013 08:52 AM)Pastnerized Wrote:  

(07-08-2013 11:38 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  The SEC took A&M in hopes of landing the horns someday. Folks in Texas know this.

But, that's not true. That's just what thousands of egotistical Longhorn fans are saying.(Not that SEC wouldn't take them, mind you)
They took A&M because this is war; and AM gives them a huge Texas/Big 12 footprint.
And various and sundry other reasons(recruiting,etc.).
AND if Texas isn't careful, the SEC will steal the Longhorn silverware.

Texas must strike back with a footprint in SEC territory.
I know a good-sized one that's available.

who would that be?

(07-08-2013 07:59 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  For those unfamilar -- 'Frank "the other Frank" the Tank' is a very knowlegable poster on various boards around the Internet. Here he's doing a Q & A on realignment in three parts --- the first being the affect of the recent conference Grant of Rights. The site is Burnt Orange Nation (Texas) >>>>

Quote:...To me, there are three key players to conference realignment stability (or instability): Texas, Notre Dame and North Carolina. As long as all three of those schools are happy, then it's tough to find much of a case for any of the 5 power conferences to proactively make moves. If any one of those three gets itchy, though, then that's where things get interesting again....

http://www.burntorangenation.com/2013/7/...k-the-tank

I wonder how long it took him to figure that out. Texas and Notre Dame change everything. Not so sure about NC.

The power the University of Texas has in the state dwarfs any other university including TAMU. Take away Governor Goodhair and that is even a bigger discrepancy.

UT isn't scared about what the SEC takes in the state because UT knows that they could always join the SEC and take it back if they want. The door to join any conference will be open to them once they ride the money farm that is the LHN as far as they can.

(07-09-2013 12:21 PM)Pastnerized Wrote:  Let's put it this way. As big and bad as UTexas IS, the SEC is big enough and bad enough to teach UT some humility if it feels the need.
That said, if Texas chooses to stand pat (and rest of B12 goes along), the SEC will eventually chew up, spit out, and belch the Big 12.

There is enough talent and room for both to be successful and earn gozillions of dollars. Don't forget that Texas' little sister Texas A&M from the Big XII and new to the SEC was the only one to beat Alabama. Just sayin'.

(07-09-2013 01:27 PM)JRR_IV Wrote:  

(07-09-2013 08:52 AM)Pastnerized Wrote:  

(07-08-2013 11:38 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  The SEC took A&M in hopes of landing the horns someday. Folks in Texas know this.

But, that's not true. That's just what thousands of egotistical Longhorn fans are saying.(Not that SEC wouldn't take them, mind you)
They took A&M because this is war; and AM gives them a huge Texas/Big 12 footprint.
And various and sundry other reasons(recruiting,etc.).
AND if Texas isn't careful, the SEC will steal the Longhorn silverware.

Texas must strike back with a footprint in SEC territory.
I know a good-sized one that's available.

who would that be?

FSU?

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(07-09-2013 09:04 AM)Stammers Wrote:  I disagree with Frank The Tank. My belief is that the key program in the entire NCAA is Oklahoma. Heaven help us if the $EC is able to lure (wants) Oklahoma and Oklahoma State. If that happens, Texas is temporarily ******, and the Big 12 gets blown up. For that matter; the entire NCAA will get blown up.

That will free Texas from Tech and Baylor

(07-09-2013 02:01 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  The power the University of Texas has in the state dwarfs any other university including TAMU. Take away Governor Goodhair and that is even a bigger discrepancy.

UT isn't scared about what the SEC takes in the state because UT knows that they could always join the SEC and take it back if they want. The door to join any conference will be open to them once they ride the money farm that is the LHN as far as they can.

The key is the LHN, I agree. but the bylaws of the SEC require 2/3rds vote for membership.

The SEC has for a long time used the "states" blockade (FL not allowing other FL schools in, LA not allowing other LA schools in, and vote trading to ensure this).

Plus, you have the issue of Texas saying "we make the pie bigger and therefore should get a bigger piece of the overall."

For long time SEC schools use to equal media and revenue sharing, this would not sit well.

If the long horn network fails, things will be very interesting - not that tis expected nor something that would happen overnight.

All speculative at this point, but fun to ponder...