(07-03-2013 05:40 PM)chrisattsu Wrote:  

(07-03-2013 03:09 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  What's the difference between Georgia Southern and Georgia State?

I'm guessing about 50 miles.

Rev,

I've created a lovely mnemonic to help me remember

"Down in ole Dixie, where siblings do mate
live toothless hillbillies who fish with no bait
Whether Eagles from Southern or Panthers from State
The distance between 'em is two hundred and eight"

Pritty Funny

App is .500 vs. the unstoppable GSU triple option, you guys are now playing more teams with a talent level of App with more depth. Are predicting you'll be better against them than you have been vs. App?

(07-03-2013 06:55 PM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote:  

(07-03-2013 06:45 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  One will be Sun belt football conference champs in 2014, one will not. The triple option will take the conference by storm.

You better have a plan "B". The triple option isn't going to fly on this level.

What level - U mean the Sun Belt? FBS lite
I was at the OSU Beavers game. Yes we lost but the score was GSU 41 - OSU 48. Most of the OOC teams we play from the FBS are top ranked SEC schools and we still score on them. GaSo scored more points on Alabama than anyother SEC team that played them that year. I have no doubt that when we are up to speed, have 85 scholorships and time for them to be coached up to expectations that GaSo will be near the top of the S.B. every year.
I cant predict the 2014 season because we will be loosing a lot of good players on offense but by 2015 we will be in the mix with the right QB.

Go Sun Belt

(07-04-2013 04:20 AM)eagleskins Wrote:  

(07-03-2013 11:11 PM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote:  

(07-03-2013 07:30 PM)GSUNCSU Wrote:  

(07-03-2013 06:55 PM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote:  

(07-03-2013 06:45 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  One will be Sun belt football conference champs in 2014, one will not. The triple option will take the conference by storm.

You better have a plan "B". The triple option isn't going to fly on this level.

That remains to be seen, better defenses have not stopped it...

Kind of like the NFL, QB running around the ends option. It doesn't work that well because of the speed of NFL players. It's the easiest most boring offense in college football. If it worked don't you think you would see it on this level? ULM did some really creative things at the start of the season on offense. It served them well but by the end of the season everyone had figured out how to defend it. It should fail miserably. How many points did you average per game? You are going to have to score a lot to beat ULM, UL or ASU.

The biggest fallacy to ever hit the internet. Speed has nothing to do with stopping the option. Zero. RG3 dominated the NFL running a bunch of triple option as a rookie. The only thing that stops the option is dominant defensive tackles.

Not sure I agree. The tackles are certainly important since they have to shut down the interior lanes, but to stop the option, the D has to play disciplined as a group...shut down assigned lanes and cover the pitch man....which is where App failed against The Citadel last year....and which is why we have a new DC this year. It should be very interesting to see how our D develops this year.

Your first statement is correct though. App had WAY better team speed/athletes than either Citadel or Wofford last year (both triple option teams) but lost both games because we over pursued and failed to cover assigned lanes. Fortunately GaSo was our third triple option team. To say that our DC was slow to adjust is an understatement.

(07-04-2013 08:17 AM)Yosef84 Wrote:  

(07-04-2013 04:20 AM)eagleskins Wrote:  

(07-03-2013 11:11 PM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote:  

(07-03-2013 07:30 PM)GSUNCSU Wrote:  

(07-03-2013 06:55 PM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote:  You better have a plan "B". The triple option isn't going to fly on this level.

That remains to be seen, better defenses have not stopped it...

Kind of like the NFL, QB running around the ends option. It doesn't work that well because of the speed of NFL players. It's the easiest most boring offense in college football. If it worked don't you think you would see it on this level? ULM did some really creative things at the start of the season on offense. It served them well but by the end of the season everyone had figured out how to defend it. It should fail miserably. How many points did you average per game? You are going to have to score a lot to beat ULM, UL or ASU.

The biggest fallacy to ever hit the internet. Speed has nothing to do with stopping the option. Zero. RG3 dominated the NFL running a bunch of triple option as a rookie. The only thing that stops the option is dominant defensive tackles.

Not sure I agree. The tackles are certainly important since they have to shut down the interior lanes, but to stop the option, the D has to play disciplined as a group...shut down assigned lanes and cover the pitch man....which is where App failed against The Citadel last year....and which is why we have a new DC this year. It should be very interesting to see how our D develops this year.

Your first statement is correct though. App had WAY better team speed/athletes than either Citadel or Wofford last year (both triple option teams) but lost both games because we over pursued and failed to cover assigned lanes. Fortunately GaSo was our third triple option team. To say that our DC was slow to adjust is an understatement.

Probably one reason our DC was demoted and we have a new one.

(07-04-2013 08:28 AM)GoApps70 Wrote:  

(07-04-2013 08:17 AM)Yosef84 Wrote:  

(07-04-2013 04:20 AM)eagleskins Wrote:  

(07-03-2013 11:11 PM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote:  

(07-03-2013 07:30 PM)GSUNCSU Wrote:  That remains to be seen, better defenses have not stopped it...

Kind of like the NFL, QB running around the ends option. It doesn't work that well because of the speed of NFL players. It's the easiest most boring offense in college football. If it worked don't you think you would see it on this level? ULM did some really creative things at the start of the season on offense. It served them well but by the end of the season everyone had figured out how to defend it. It should fail miserably. How many points did you average per game? You are going to have to score a lot to beat ULM, UL or ASU.

The biggest fallacy to ever hit the internet. Speed has nothing to do with stopping the option. Zero. RG3 dominated the NFL running a bunch of triple option as a rookie. The only thing that stops the option is dominant defensive tackles.

Not sure I agree. The tackles are certainly important since they have to shut down the interior lanes, but to stop the option, the D has to play disciplined as a group...shut down assigned lanes and cover the pitch man....which is where App failed against The Citadel last year....and which is why we have a new DC this year. It should be very interesting to see how our D develops this year.

Your first statement is correct though. App had WAY better team speed/athletes than either Citadel or Wofford last year (both triple option teams) but lost both games because we over pursued and failed to cover assigned lanes. Fortunately GaSo was our third triple option team. To say that our DC was slow to adjust is an understatement.

Probably one reason our DC was demoted and we have a new one.

Exactly! I believe I said that. Sorry for rambling

(07-04-2013 07:56 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  App is .500 vs. the unstoppable GSU triple option, you guys are now playing more teams with a talent level of App with more depth. Are predicting you'll be better against them than you have been vs. App?

App is our most heated rival. When we play each other its a death match. In FCS it is one of the marqui games of the year.

The triple option run from the spread formation is not unstopable but it has served GaSo well sence 1985. Defensive line penitration interfearing with the FB and pitch keys does the worst damage.

I dont fear the preformance of our option ground attack vs S.B. defenses. GaSo's defense againse "TOP" SB teams is my concern. As you have heard countless time by other GaSo fans & discount it GaSo played for 8 national championships, won 6 & are the statistical leader for the FCS playoffs started in 1978. I expect the spread option to serve us well into the future in the Sun Belt.

Party On Saint3333

TALON

(07-04-2013 06:42 AM)gseagle Wrote:  

(07-04-2013 04:42 AM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote:  

(07-04-2013 04:20 AM)eagleskins Wrote:  

(07-03-2013 11:11 PM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote:  

(07-03-2013 07:30 PM)GSUNCSU Wrote:  That remains to be seen, better defenses have not stopped it...

Kind of like the NFL, QB running around the ends option. It doesn't work that well because of the speed of NFL players. It's the easiest most boring offense in college football. If it worked don't you think you would see it on this level? ULM did some really creative things at the start of the season on offense. It served them well but by the end of the season everyone had figured out how to defend it. It should fail miserably. How many points did you average per game? You are going to have to score a lot to beat ULM, UL or ASU.

The biggest fallacy to ever hit the internet. Speed has nothing to do with stopping the option. Zero. RG3 dominated the NFL running a bunch of triple option as a rookie. The only thing that stops the option is dominant defensive tackles.

Look dude. Run your triple or quadruple option. Every coach that plays you this year will be ready for it. I trust that coach Hud and the Cajuns will shut that down real quick.

that's right...you're going to shut us down. we'll probably have negative rushing yards against your world class defense. how can i forget the Cajuns are the cream of the crop in FBS. we don't stand a chance against the likes of that!

I didn't say anything about yards gained. You will not win many games running the same play over and over. We will shut that down along with most of the old timers in the Belt.

(07-04-2013 08:17 AM)Yosef84 Wrote:  

(07-04-2013 04:20 AM)eagleskins Wrote:  

(07-03-2013 11:11 PM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote:  [quote='GSUNCSU' pid='9464168' dateline='1372897836']
[quote='Louisianafanrcajun90' pid='9464069' dateline='1372895716']

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The biggest fallacy to ever hit the internet. Speed has nothing to do with stopping the option. Zero. RG3 dominated the NFL running a bunch of triple option as a rookie. The only thing that stops the option is dominant defensive tackles.

Not sure I agree. The tackles are certainly important since they have to shut down the interior lanes, but to stop the option, the D has to play disciplined as a group...shut down assigned lanes and cover the pitch man....which is where App failed against The Citadel last year....and which is why we have a new DC this year. It should be very interesting to see how our D develops this year.

Your first statement is correct though. App had WAY better team speed/athletes than either Citadel or Wofford last year (both triple option teams) but lost both games because we over pursued and failed to cover assigned lanes. Fortunately GaSo was our third triple option team. To say that our DC was slow to adjust is an understatement.

Yosef84 - "but to stop the option, the D has to play disciplined as a group...shut down assigned lanes and cover the pitch man."TALON - I agree with you Yosef84. My earler statement about line penitration is a true statement - to stop the triple down the LOS before it gets cranked up but that holds true against most offenses. What you stated is a key factor. Someone mentioned defensive speed. D speed has less to do with stopping the triple than penitration and disoplined assignments on defense.

(07-04-2013 08:15 AM)GSUsTALON Wrote:  

(07-03-2013 06:55 PM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote:  

(07-03-2013 06:45 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  One will be Sun belt football conference champs in 2014, one will not. The triple option will take the conference by storm.

You better have a plan "B". The triple option isn't going to fly on this level.

What level - U mean the Sun Belt? FBS lite
I was at the OSU Beavers game. Yes we lost but the score was GSU 41 - OSU 48. Most of the OOC teams we play from the FBS are top ranked SEC schools and we still score on them. GaSo scored more points on Alabama than anyother SEC team that played them that year. I have no doubt that when we are up to speed, have 85 scholorships and time for them to be coached up to expectations that GaSo will be near the top of the S.B. every year.
I cant predict the 2014 season because we will be loosing a lot of good players on offense but by 2015 we will be in the mix with the right QB.

Go Sun Belt

FBS lite? How cute...

Louisianafanrcajun90 - "I didn't say anything about yards gained. You will not win many games running the same play over and over. We will shut that down along with most of the old timers in the Belt."

The Triple Option is only the base play that sets up other offensive plays.

I just hope we get the Cajuns at Paulson in 2014 when we lay 50 on Huds.

(07-04-2013 07:13 AM)Potomac Wrote:  One is real, the other is fake.

"The other is fake"..,that's some majorly weak smack. "Fake" what do you even mean by that?

(07-04-2013 09:03 AM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  I just hope we get the Cajuns at Paulson in 2014 when we lay 50 on Huds.

You're building quite the greatest hits collection...

Not to mention we should have been leading UGA at the half. UGA was 3 yards from the national championship. Meanwhile Cajuns act like they will dominate us while losing to ok st 42-0 at the half.

(07-04-2013 09:01 AM)GSUsTALON Wrote:  Louisianafanrcajun90 - "I didn't say anything about yards gained. You will not win many games running the same play over and over. We will shut that down along with most of the old timers in the Belt."

The Triple Option is only the base play that sets up other offensive plays.

What other plays? You had 850 rushing attempts and 94 pass attempts last year.

(07-04-2013 09:09 AM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  Not to mention we should have been leading UGA at the half. UGA was 3 yards from the national championship. Meanwhile Cajuns act like they will dominate us while losing to ok st 42-0 at the half.

Did you just compare yourself to the olympic track meet that is OSU?

(07-04-2013 09:10 AM)panama Wrote:  

(07-04-2013 09:01 AM)GSUsTALON Wrote:  Louisianafanrcajun90 - "I didn't say anything about yards gained. You will not win many games running the same play over and over. We will shut that down along with most of the old timers in the Belt."

The Triple Option is only the base play that sets up other offensive plays.

What other plays? You had 850 rushing attempts and 94 pass attempts last year.

Inside zone read, outside zone read, midline option, rocket toss, zone read, motion wr option, trap option, b back double option, fb dive, qb sweep, qb dive...

I kid I kid. We all know ALL Georgia Southern runs is the triple option play out of the flexbone formation. This is the exact offense we will use every time, forever.

What's a shotgun? Blasphemy!

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Here's to the next 400 times this conversation happens between now and the start of the 2014 season.

EDIT: Forewarning to the rest of the Sun Belt, two "arguments" you can expect to hear a lot in defense of our offense... "But we scored/ran more on Bama..." "We may have never beat an FBS team, but we always play against elite..."

If there is one thing the Sun Belt has done by picking up us and App, you've gotten 2 ridiculously passionate fan bases. I will admit a portion of ours will talk you to death about the triple option, just get ready.

(07-04-2013 09:10 AM)panama Wrote:  

(07-04-2013 09:01 AM)GSUsTALON Wrote:  Louisianafanrcajun90 - "I didn't say anything about yards gained. You will not win many games running the same play over and over. We will shut that down along with most of the old timers in the Belt."

The Triple Option is only the base play that sets up other offensive plays.

What other plays? You had 850 rushing attempts and 94 pass attempts last year.

That may be true but nothing is more frustrating when 1 of the 4 passes they throw goes to a WR streaking down the seam for a 60+ yard gain. It happens at least every other year we play them.

You will put 8 guys in the box vs. the 3-O, many times you play your better run stopping safeties vs. coverage guys, and your CBs are on an island vs. their WRs and for some reason they are able to recruit above average WRs with speed. About three years ago a WR choose GSU over App, I was floored.

The best defense for the 3-O is a beast, space eating DT, disciplined DEs and LBs (they don't have to be great just disciplined), and CBs that can shed WR blocks and tackle.