(06-26-2013 11:44 AM)NBPirate Wrote: People were rebelling. They thought we had missed the boat in conference realignment. Apathy set in.
I'd say not showing up against teams with a pulse set in more than anything. That **** got old quick.
Interesting you say that......5 of the final 7 games ECU played against are your future conference mates......Tulane, Memphis Houston, Navy, UCF.....
I'm sure Temple will help put the people in the seats...
What's that got to do with anything? You won't see me stick my head in the sand and pretend we didn't have an attendance dip last season. Although the UTEP game was a special circumstance as we had a torrential downpour practically.
FWIW, I'd take Memphis and Temple over anybody in CUSA (sans USM) based on basketball alone. I'd much rather be with UCF/USF than FIU/FAU. Same applies to Houston vs UNT. The only one I could completely do without is Tulane, I'd swap them for USM in a heartbeat.
Just like I would take Charlotte, ODU, WKU over the likes of Tulane, SMU, and ECU in basketball.....
....And I would take La Tech and MTSU football over Tulane and Memphis football.....
You see?...At the end of the day its not much difference when you look at it from both sides. The trade off is minimal at best. The only thing "perception wise" that may make the AAC more attractive to some initially is the leftovers in Cincy and UCONN. And both of those are anxious to get out.
I was actually comparing Memphis and Temple basketball to several of CUSA-3.45673's entire athletic departments.
(06-26-2013 08:43 PM)blunderbuss Wrote: I'd say not showing up against teams with a pulse set in more than anything. That **** got old quick.
Interesting you say that......5 of the final 7 games ECU played against are your future conference mates......Tulane, Memphis Houston, Navy, UCF.....
I'm sure Temple will help put the people in the seats...
What's that got to do with anything? You won't see me stick my head in the sand and pretend we didn't have an attendance dip last season. Although the UTEP game was a special circumstance as we had a torrential downpour practically.
FWIW, I'd take Memphis and Temple over anybody in CUSA (sans USM) based on basketball alone. I'd much rather be with UCF/USF than FIU/FAU. Same applies to Houston vs UNT. The only one I could completely do without is Tulane, I'd swap them for USM in a heartbeat.
Just like I would take Charlotte, ODU, WKU over the likes of Tulane, SMU, and ECU in basketball.....
....And I would take La Tech and MTSU football over Tulane and Memphis football.....
You see?...At the end of the day its not much difference when you look at it from both sides. The trade off is minimal at best. The only thing "perception wise" that may make the AAC more attractive to some initially is the leftovers in Cincy and UCONN. And both of those are anxious to get out.
Yep, thats all The AAC is a much better conference using any metric
Yeah right. The AAC isn't that much better overall. Some of you guys need to get you heads examined. You literally have three of the worst FBS football programs in Tulane, Temple, and Memphis. Hell Temple is one of the worst of all time. In basketball you are top heavy with Cincy and UConn along with Memphis. Big Deal. We have some solid basketball additions in Charlotte, ODU, WKU and MTSU. There might be a slight gap but no reason in trying to make it out bigger than what it really is.
(06-26-2013 09:05 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote: Interesting you say that......5 of the final 7 games ECU played against are your future conference mates......Tulane, Memphis Houston, Navy, UCF.....
I'm sure Temple will help put the people in the seats...
What's that got to do with anything? You won't see me stick my head in the sand and pretend we didn't have an attendance dip last season. Although the UTEP game was a special circumstance as we had a torrential downpour practically.
FWIW, I'd take Memphis and Temple over anybody in CUSA (sans USM) based on basketball alone. I'd much rather be with UCF/USF than FIU/FAU. Same applies to Houston vs UNT. The only one I could completely do without is Tulane, I'd swap them for USM in a heartbeat.
Just like I would take Charlotte, ODU, WKU over the likes of Tulane, SMU, and ECU in basketball.....
....And I would take La Tech and MTSU football over Tulane and Memphis football.....
You see?...At the end of the day its not much difference when you look at it from both sides. The trade off is minimal at best. The only thing "perception wise" that may make the AAC more attractive to some initially is the leftovers in Cincy and UCONN. And both of those are anxious to get out.
Yep, thats all The AAC is a much better conference using any metric
Yeah right. The AAC isn't that much better overall. Some of you guys need to get you heads examined. You literally have three of the worst FBS football programs in Tulane, Temple, and Memphis. Hell Temple is one of the worst of all time. In basketball you are top heavy with Cincy and UConn along with Memphis. Big Deal. We have some solid basketball additions in Charlotte, ODU, WKU and MTSU. There might be a slight gap but no reason in trying to make it out bigger than what it really is.
(06-26-2013 09:05 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote: Interesting you say that......5 of the final 7 games ECU played against are your future conference mates......Tulane, Memphis Houston, Navy, UCF.....
I'm sure Temple will help put the people in the seats...
What's that got to do with anything? You won't see me stick my head in the sand and pretend we didn't have an attendance dip last season. Although the UTEP game was a special circumstance as we had a torrential downpour practically.
FWIW, I'd take Memphis and Temple over anybody in CUSA (sans USM) based on basketball alone. I'd much rather be with UCF/USF than FIU/FAU. Same applies to Houston vs UNT. The only one I could completely do without is Tulane, I'd swap them for USM in a heartbeat.
Just like I would take Charlotte, ODU, WKU over the likes of Tulane, SMU, and ECU in basketball.....
....And I would take La Tech and MTSU football over Tulane and Memphis football.....
You see?...At the end of the day its not much difference when you look at it from both sides. The trade off is minimal at best. The only thing "perception wise" that may make the AAC more attractive to some initially is the leftovers in Cincy and UCONN. And both of those are anxious to get out.
Yep, thats all The AAC is a much better conference using any metric
Yeah right. The AAC isn't that much better overall. Some of you guys need to get you heads examined. You literally have three of the worst FBS football programs in Tulane, Temple, and Memphis. Hell Temple is one of the worst of all time. In basketball you are top heavy with Cincy and UConn along with Memphis. Big Deal. We have some solid basketball additions in Charlotte, ODU, WKU and MTSU. There might be a slight gap but no reason in trying to make it out bigger than what it really is.
Are you being serious? You have teams that have literally never played a down of football. This is not worth arguing again. It is just the facts. Our teams have ranked higher, recruited better, have higher athletic budgets, etc. In every measurable category the league is better and not by a little bit.
(06-27-2013 02:52 AM)randaddyminer Wrote: what ya know... the same dumb SOBs derail another thread... and it is always the same posters, not even other ecu posters like them
How in the H do you say we derailed this post? A Marshall fan comes here and states that we fudge our numbers and you expect us to say nothing. I post very seldom on this board because of respect to the ones that don't want us here. Some of you start crap against ECU and then blame it on us. Be Real!
(06-27-2013 02:52 AM)randaddyminer Wrote: what ya know... the same dumb SOBs derail another thread... and it is always the same posters, not even other ecu posters like them
How in the H do you say we derailed this post? A Marshall fan comes here and states that we fudge our numbers and you expect us to say nothing. I post very seldom on this board because of respect to the ones that don't want us here. Some of you start crap against ECU and then blame it on us. Be Real!
You do fudge your numbers. I posted the pics to back it up. Whats wrong with presenting some facts? You guys come over here sticking your chest out like you sell the joint out every game and it simply isn't true. Sounds to me like you guys are a little butt hurt over it. Its no big deal. ECU isn't the only school that fudges their numbers and you wont be the last. Get over it.
(This post was last modified: 06-27-2013 05:23 PM by MUHERD76.)
(06-26-2013 09:15 PM)blunderbuss Wrote: What's that got to do with anything? You won't see me stick my head in the sand and pretend we didn't have an attendance dip last season. Although the UTEP game was a special circumstance as we had a torrential downpour practically.
FWIW, I'd take Memphis and Temple over anybody in CUSA (sans USM) based on basketball alone. I'd much rather be with UCF/USF than FIU/FAU. Same applies to Houston vs UNT. The only one I could completely do without is Tulane, I'd swap them for USM in a heartbeat.
Just like I would take Charlotte, ODU, WKU over the likes of Tulane, SMU, and ECU in basketball.....
....And I would take La Tech and MTSU football over Tulane and Memphis football.....
You see?...At the end of the day its not much difference when you look at it from both sides. The trade off is minimal at best. The only thing "perception wise" that may make the AAC more attractive to some initially is the leftovers in Cincy and UCONN. And both of those are anxious to get out.
Yep, thats all The AAC is a much better conference using any metric
Yeah right. The AAC isn't that much better overall. Some of you guys need to get you heads examined. You literally have three of the worst FBS football programs in Tulane, Temple, and Memphis. Hell Temple is one of the worst of all time. In basketball you are top heavy with Cincy and UConn along with Memphis. Big Deal. We have some solid basketball additions in Charlotte, ODU, WKU and MTSU. There might be a slight gap but no reason in trying to make it out bigger than what it really is.
Are you being serious? You have teams that have literally never played a down of football. This is not worth arguing again. It is just the facts. Our teams have ranked higher, recruited better, have higher athletic budgets, etc. In every measurable category the league is better and not by a little bit.
Hell yeah I'm being serious. What level of access to bowls and post season play do you have access to that CUSA doesn't have?
I think I'm starting to figure this out.....some of you ECU fans are a little sore over the fact that CUSA is moving on without ECU. What did you think was going to happen? Did you think CUSA was going to close up shop once Tulane and ECU announced they were leaving?...HA. Wrong.
CUSA will push forward and has the chance to be even better than the previous version was. We already have ODU stealing recruits from ECU. That in itself says a lot and you know it.
(06-27-2013 02:52 AM)randaddyminer Wrote: what ya know... the same dumb SOBs derail another thread... and it is always the same posters, not even other ecu posters like them
How in the H do you say we derailed this post? A Marshall fan comes here and states that we fudge our numbers and you expect us to say nothing. I post very seldom on this board because of respect to the ones that don't want us here. Some of you start crap against ECU and then blame it on us. Be Real!
You do fudge your numbers. I posted the pics to back it up. Whats wrong with presenting some facts? Sounds to me like you guys are a little butt hurt over it. Its no big deal. ECU isn't the only school that fudges their numbers and you wont be the last.
The issue is your talking about a few games, here or there, but make it sound like it's every game, like Tulane, UAB, Memphis, etc. type fudging happening here every game. We reported tickets sold for a few game that had less actual, big freak'n deal. It's not like we haven't had countless true sell outs, which I post a few.
And again, the game you went to and posted pictures of was a Black Friday game, with nearly no students, just the local kids, no wonder the Boneyard was less than half full. It still doesn't change the fact we sold 46,000 tickets for that game.
(06-27-2013 01:59 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote: Just like I would take Charlotte, ODU, WKU over the likes of Tulane, SMU, and ECU in basketball.....
....And I would take La Tech and MTSU football over Tulane and Memphis football.....
You see?...At the end of the day its not much difference when you look at it from both sides. The trade off is minimal at best. The only thing "perception wise" that may make the AAC more attractive to some initially is the leftovers in Cincy and UCONN. And both of those are anxious to get out.
Yep, thats all The AAC is a much better conference using any metric
Yeah right. The AAC isn't that much better overall. Some of you guys need to get you heads examined. You literally have three of the worst FBS football programs in Tulane, Temple, and Memphis. Hell Temple is one of the worst of all time. In basketball you are top heavy with Cincy and UConn along with Memphis. Big Deal. We have some solid basketball additions in Charlotte, ODU, WKU and MTSU. There might be a slight gap but no reason in trying to make it out bigger than what it really is.
Are you being serious? You have teams that have literally never played a down of football. This is not worth arguing again. It is just the facts. Our teams have ranked higher, recruited better, have higher athletic budgets, etc. In every measurable category the league is better and not by a little bit.
Hell yeah I'm being serious. What level of access to bowls and post season play do you have access to that CUSA doesn't have?
I think I'm starting to figure this out.....some of you ECU fans are a little sore over the fact that CUSA is moving on without ECU. What did you think was going to happen? Did you think CUSA was going to close up shop once Tulane and ECU announced they were leaving?...HA. Wrong.
CUSA will push forward and has the chance to be even better than the previous version was. We already have ODU stealing recruits from ECU. That in itself says a lot and you know it.
(06-27-2013 01:59 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote: Just like I would take Charlotte, ODU, WKU over the likes of Tulane, SMU, and ECU in basketball.....
....And I would take La Tech and MTSU football over Tulane and Memphis football.....
You see?...At the end of the day its not much difference when you look at it from both sides. The trade off is minimal at best. The only thing "perception wise" that may make the AAC more attractive to some initially is the leftovers in Cincy and UCONN. And both of those are anxious to get out.
Yep, thats all The AAC is a much better conference using any metric
Yeah right. The AAC isn't that much better overall. Some of you guys need to get you heads examined. You literally have three of the worst FBS football programs in Tulane, Temple, and Memphis. Hell Temple is one of the worst of all time. In basketball you are top heavy with Cincy and UConn along with Memphis. Big Deal. We have some solid basketball additions in Charlotte, ODU, WKU and MTSU. There might be a slight gap but no reason in trying to make it out bigger than what it really is.
Are you being serious? You have teams that have literally never played a down of football. This is not worth arguing again. It is just the facts. Our teams have ranked higher, recruited better, have higher athletic budgets, etc. In every measurable category the league is better and not by a little bit.
Hell yeah I'm being serious. What level of access to bowls and post season play do you have access to that CUSA doesn't have?
I think I'm starting to figure this out.....some of you ECU fans are a little sore over the fact that CUSA is moving on without ECU. What did you think was going to happen? Did you think CUSA was going to close up shop once Tulane and ECU announced they were leaving?...HA. Wrong.
CUSA will push forward and has the chance to be even better than the previous version was. We already have ODU stealing recruits from ECU. That in itself says a lot and you know it.
(06-27-2013 02:52 AM)randaddyminer Wrote: what ya know... the same dumb SOBs derail another thread... and it is always the same posters, not even other ecu posters like them
How in the H do you say we derailed this post? A Marshall fan comes here and states that we fudge our numbers and you expect us to say nothing. I post very seldom on this board because of respect to the ones that don't want us here. Some of you start crap against ECU and then blame it on us. Be Real!
You do fudge your numbers. I posted the pics to back it up. Whats wrong with presenting some facts? Sounds to me like you guys are a little butt hurt over it. Its no big deal. ECU isn't the only school that fudges their numbers and you wont be the last.
The issue is your talking about a few games, here or there, but make it sound like it's every game, like Tulane, UAB, Memphis, etc. type fudging happening here every game. We reported tickets sold for a few game that had less actual, big freak'n deal. It's not like we haven't had countless true sell outs, which I post a few.
And again, the game you went to and posted pictures of was a Black Friday game, with nearly no students, just the local kids, no wonder the Boneyard was less than half full. It still doesn't change the fact we sold 46,000 tickets for that game.
Like I said in my previous posts......"Its no big deal".... A lot of schools do it.
(06-27-2013 02:52 AM)randaddyminer Wrote: what ya know... the same dumb SOBs derail another thread... and it is always the same posters, not even other ecu posters like them
How in the H do you say we derailed this post? A Marshall fan comes here and states that we fudge our numbers and you expect us to say nothing. I post very seldom on this board because of respect to the ones that don't want us here. Some of you start crap against ECU and then blame it on us. Be Real!
You do fudge your numbers. I posted the pics to back it up. Whats wrong with presenting some facts? Sounds to me like you guys are a little butt hurt over it. Its no big deal. ECU isn't the only school that fudges their numbers and you wont be the last.
The issue is your talking about a few games, here or there, but make it sound like it's every game, like Tulane, UAB, Memphis, etc. type fudging happening here every game. We reported tickets sold for a few game that had less actual, big freak'n deal. It's not like we haven't had countless true sell outs, which I post a few.
And again, the game you went to and posted pictures of was a Black Friday game, with nearly no students, just the local kids, no wonder the Boneyard was less than half full. It still doesn't change the fact we sold 46,000 tickets for that game.
Like I said in my previous posts......"Its no big deal".... A lot of schools do it.
(06-27-2013 02:52 AM)randaddyminer Wrote: what ya know... the same dumb SOBs derail another thread... and it is always the same posters, not even other ecu posters like them
How in the H do you say we derailed this post? A Marshall fan comes here and states that we fudge our numbers and you expect us to say nothing. I post very seldom on this board because of respect to the ones that don't want us here. Some of you start crap against ECU and then blame it on us. Be Real!
You do fudge your numbers. I posted the pics to back it up. Whats wrong with presenting some facts? Sounds to me like you guys are a little butt hurt over it. Its no big deal. ECU isn't the only school that fudges their numbers and you wont be the last.
The issue is your talking about a few games, here or there, but make it sound like it's every game, like Tulane, UAB, Memphis, etc. type fudging happening here every game. We reported tickets sold for a few game that had less actual, big freak'n deal. It's not like we haven't had countless true sell outs, which I post a few.
And again, the game you went to and posted pictures of was a Black Friday game, with nearly no students, just the local kids, no wonder the Boneyard was less than half full. It still doesn't change the fact we sold 46,000 tickets for that game.
And this is why I have developed a dislike for ECU as a whole. UAB fans haven't been involved in this ***** fest, yet you need to throw us into the conversation by badmouthing us. 15,000-20,000 people in a 70,000 seat stadium looks bad. There is no way around it. Even if UAB averaged 35,000, the stadium would still be half empty.
ECWhoo lies about their attendance. If there was 31K at the Marshall game last year they were lucky. They may have had 46K tickets sold, which I doubt, unless they had companies buying group tickets. They only time they have the stadium full is if VA Tech, UNC, NC State come to town. And then they fill half of the stadium up.
Hope soon these dic#wads are outta here. And hope we never schedule them again.
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(06-28-2013 01:13 PM)HerdZoned Wrote: ECWhoo lies about their attendance. If there was 31K at the Marshall game last year they were lucky. They may have had 46K tickets sold, which I doubt, unless they had companies buying group tickets. They only time they have the stadium full is if VA Tech, UNC, NC State come to town. And then they fill half of the stadium up.
Hope soon these dic#wads are outta here. And hope we never schedule them again.
No, we don't lie about attendance. I've not missed a home game in 10 years and knowing what I know about the stadium I would say that what's reported is usually within 1-2 grand of what is actually there. It might not be that way at the end of the game but it is accurate.
Regarding what you said about the OOC opponents: you just flat-out lied.
This needs to be said: there is no reason for for a few fans to suddenly decide to hate us because we are moving on OR because we have a few fans on this board who irritate some. As for Marshall fans in particular, I hope that we will keep on scheduling y'all for years to come as I like your fans and I've heard great things about your hospitality. However, putting those hopes aside, some of your fans need to get over the jealously and envy they have right now. First of all, it's not like we're moving to the B12 or the SEC. We're moving to a better conference (don't fool yourselves) and this will present us with more opportunities down the road. But this conference is not so many light years ahead of CUSA that we can rest on our laurels.
BTW, if you really don't want to play us, fine. We will not have a problem filling our home slate with teams that want to come to Greenville and I'm sure we'll be able to arrange a 3-1 series with another mid-major school who only asked for one home game in return... if Marshall is willing to do that then and only then should we work out something. Do you think Hamrick would go for it?
The last part was a joke so don't lose it...
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Quote:CUSA will push forward and has the chance to be even better than the previous version was. We already have ODU stealing recruits from ECU. That in itself says a lot and you know it.
(06-28-2013 01:13 PM)HerdZoned Wrote: ECWhoo lies about their attendance. If there was 31K at the Marshall game last year they were lucky. They may have had 46K tickets sold, which I doubt, unless they had companies buying group tickets. They only time they have the stadium full is if VA Tech, UNC, NC State come to town. And then they fill half of the stadium up.
Hope soon these dic#wads are outta here. And hope we never schedule them again.
(07-08-2013 03:51 PM)Ned Low Wrote: As for Marshall fans in particular, I hope that we will keep on scheduling y'all for years to come ...
I personally hope we never play them again. If we can't take NQ's we shouldn't play them. It's the old nothing to gain and everything to lose deal. And I don't blame NCSU and UNC for having that attitude towards us for years either.
No sense in filling up an OOC game opening when we could schedule a BYU, WVU, NCSU, UVA, VT, SC, etc.
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I was actually comparing Memphis and Temple basketball to several of CUSA-3.45673's entire athletic departments.
The AAC is a much better conference using any metric
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