(06-27-2013 10:13 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 10:09 AM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 10:07 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 10:06 AM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 10:03 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Yes, Texans don't want women dying due to botched abortions.

Oh, so making something illegal means it goes away?

Are you daft? Illegal how?

Abortions after 20 weeks won't just go away. They'll go underground, just like they were before.

There is a legal criteria for abortions after 20 weeks in this bill.

Well, given that the bill will shut down most of the clinics, the patients will go underground. Given that the doctors will be performing them underground, I seriously doubt that they will follow the restrictions.

(06-27-2013 10:18 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 10:13 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 10:09 AM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 10:07 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 10:06 AM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  Oh, so making something illegal means it goes away?

Are you daft? Illegal how?

Abortions after 20 weeks won't just go away. They'll go underground, just like they were before.

There is a legal criteria for abortions after 20 weeks in this bill.

Well, given that the bill will shut down most of the clinics, the patients will go underground. Given that the doctors will be performing them underground, I seriously doubt that they will follow the restrictions.

Not gonna happen. STFU, Go to work, fool.

(06-27-2013 09:36 AM)Smaug Wrote:  How much is this costing the good people of Texas?

This bears repeating.

How can the fiscal conservative justify not one, but TWO special sessions so Perry can ramrod this through?

(06-27-2013 10:19 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 10:18 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 10:13 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 10:09 AM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 10:07 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Are you daft? Illegal how?

Abortions after 20 weeks won't just go away. They'll go underground, just like they were before.

There is a legal criteria for abortions after 20 weeks in this bill.

Well, given that the bill will shut down most of the clinics, the patients will go underground. Given that the doctors will be performing them underground, I seriously doubt that they will follow the restrictions.

Not gonna happen.

Didn't someone famous once say something about ignoring history and being doomed to repeat it or something?

(06-27-2013 10:23 AM)Smaug Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 09:36 AM)Smaug Wrote:  How much is this costing the good people of Texas?

This bears repeating.

How can the fiscal conservative justify not one, but TWO special sessions so Perry can ramrod this through?

I'm sure there's a stat out there that says how much it costs to run the Texas legislature per day.

(06-27-2013 10:23 AM)Smaug Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 09:36 AM)Smaug Wrote:  How much is this costing the good people of Texas?

This bears repeating.

How can the fiscal conservative justify not one, but TWO special sessions so Perry can ramrod this through?

Considering they only meet every other year, special sessons are common.

(06-27-2013 10:19 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 10:18 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 10:13 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 10:09 AM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 10:07 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Are you daft? Illegal how?

Abortions after 20 weeks won't just go away. They'll go underground, just like they were before.

There is a legal criteria for abortions after 20 weeks in this bill.

Well, given that the bill will shut down most of the clinics, the patients will go underground. Given that the doctors will be performing them underground, I seriously doubt that they will follow the restrictions.

Not gonna happen. STFU, Go to work, fool.

What isn't going to happen? The bill passing or most of the clinics closing?

BTW SOAF, I am on vacation this week.

(06-27-2013 10:26 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 10:23 AM)Smaug Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 09:36 AM)Smaug Wrote:  How much is this costing the good people of Texas?

This bears repeating.

How can the fiscal conservative justify not one, but TWO special sessions so Perry can ramrod this through?

Considering they only meet every other year, special sessons are common.

Really? Wow.

Pretty sweet gig if you can get it, I guess.

(06-27-2013 10:32 AM)Smaug Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 10:26 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 10:23 AM)Smaug Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 09:36 AM)Smaug Wrote:  How much is this costing the good people of Texas?

This bears repeating.

How can the fiscal conservative justify not one, but TWO special sessions so Perry can ramrod this through?

Considering they only meet every other year, special sessons are common.

Really? Wow.

Pretty sweet gig if you can get it, I guess.

I actually prefer if officials only meet every other year. Forces them to get real jobs.

(06-27-2013 10:33 AM)Ninerfan1 Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 10:32 AM)Smaug Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 10:26 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 10:23 AM)Smaug Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 09:36 AM)Smaug Wrote:  How much is this costing the good people of Texas?

This bears repeating.

How can the fiscal conservative justify not one, but TWO special sessions so Perry can ramrod this through?

Considering they only meet every other year, special sessons are common.

Really? Wow.

Pretty sweet gig if you can get it, I guess.

I actually prefer if officials only meet every other year. Forces them to get real jobs.

Oh, I don't disagree. Frankly, we're all safer when they're not in session (assuming you could do away with recess appointments).

(06-27-2013 10:09 AM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 10:07 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 10:06 AM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 10:03 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 10:00 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Improving Women's Health? You're doing a great job, Summy.

Yes, Texans don't want women dying due to botched abortions.

Oh, so making something illegal means it goes away?

Are you daft? Illegal how?

Abortions after 20 weeks won't just go away. They'll go underground, just like they were before.

And since you're so worried about women's health, the women who see no other option but to go to an underground, illegal abortion clinic will receive horrendous care. This type of legislation is likely to lead to more Gosnells, not fewer.

History indicates you're wrong (or lying).

As I was saying, taking advice from the left...do the opposite.

You lazy lefters need to acknowledge that there are other options to termination. Maybe not the easy way out, but these unborn do have other family besides the mother. They have fathers, and grandparents, and aunts uncle’s cousins, entire families. That matter.

(06-27-2013 09:44 AM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 09:43 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Oh, we understand that, barring all the Dems camping out in San Diego for months to avoid a quorum, we will lose this fight in Texas. But the GOP will take another hit with moderates on this. This bill doesn't even take into account rape.

For the dems, that's the point. They'll lose this fight but get lots of opportunities for republicans to say stupid things into cameras.

Here's Governor Perry this morning

https://twitter.com/evanasmith/status/35...0505962496

Keep it up Texas GOP!

(06-27-2013 11:18 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 09:44 AM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 09:43 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Oh, we understand that, barring all the Dems camping out in San Diego for months to avoid a quorum, we will lose this fight in Texas. But the GOP will take another hit with moderates on this. This bill doesn't even take into account rape.

For the dems, that's the point. They'll lose this fight but get lots of opportunities for republicans to say stupid things into cameras.

Here's Governor Perry this morning

https://twitter.com/evanasmith/status/35...0505962496

Keep it up Texas GOP!

wait, seriously?

(06-27-2013 11:18 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 09:44 AM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 09:43 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Oh, we understand that, barring all the Dems camping out in San Diego for months to avoid a quorum, we will lose this fight in Texas. But the GOP will take another hit with moderates on this. This bill doesn't even take into account rape.

For the dems, that's the point. They'll lose this fight but get lots of opportunities for republicans to say stupid things into cameras.

Here's Governor Perry this morning

https://twitter.com/evanasmith/status/35...0505962496

Keep it up Texas GOP!

Guess she shouldn't have call Rick Perry a joke for doing what he can and using the Dimms tactics. She drew first blood.

(06-27-2013 12:13 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 11:10 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  You lazy lefters need to acknowledge that there are other options to termination. Maybe not the easy way out, but these unborn do have other family besides the mother. They have fathers, and grandparents, and aunts uncle’s cousins, entire families. That matter.

Anyone on the left, feel free to raise your hand if you favor an abortion over adoption or any other option.

Well, to be fair there are occasions where I would favor abortion over adoption. I won't mention those occasions here because I like my warning level at 0%.


Ok, seriously now, I would prefer the use of protection but if stuff happens and the choice has to be made, obviously I would prefer there to be an adoption. But it isn't up to me.

(06-27-2013 11:29 AM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 11:18 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 09:44 AM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 09:43 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Oh, we understand that, barring all the Dems camping out in San Diego for months to avoid a quorum, we will lose this fight in Texas. But the GOP will take another hit with moderates on this. This bill doesn't even take into account rape.

For the dems, that's the point. They'll lose this fight but get lots of opportunities for republicans to say stupid things into cameras.

Here's Governor Perry this morning

https://twitter.com/evanasmith/status/35...0505962496

Keep it up Texas GOP!

wait, seriously?

Yep, confirmed and now picked up by the media.

(06-27-2013 12:26 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 11:29 AM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 11:18 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 09:44 AM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 09:43 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Oh, we understand that, barring all the Dems camping out in San Diego for months to avoid a quorum, we will lose this fight in Texas. But the GOP will take another hit with moderates on this. This bill doesn't even take into account rape.

For the dems, that's the point. They'll lose this fight but get lots of opportunities for republicans to say stupid things into cameras.

Here's Governor Perry this morning

https://twitter.com/evanasmith/status/35...0505962496

Keep it up Texas GOP!

wait, seriously?

Yep, confirmed and now picked up by the media.

So basically he's being bashed by holding her up as an example of how you don't have to remedy one mistake by making another?

(06-27-2013 10:23 AM)Smaug Wrote:  

(06-27-2013 09:36 AM)Smaug Wrote:  How much is this costing the good people of Texas?

This bears repeating.

How can the fiscal conservative justify not one, but TWO special sessions so Perry can ramrod this through?

Not NEAR as much as Dear Leader has spent in the past week. It would be a small portion compared to even Cash for Clunkers.

Get off of it. If the Libs are going to play silly games and have crazy over-burdensome laws pass, then the Republicans better play the same game.

When I was a kid, if you let others cheat while you played by rules - THE OTHER SIDE WON even if they lied and misled. Fight fire with fire. Good job Rick Perry.