(06-26-2013 03:18 PM)olddawg Wrote: Anybody tweet w/ Stoss? I'm very curious why an article was taken down- quite unusual.
That is interesting. Stoss didn't tweet why. Maybe it is for tomorrow's paper and it shouldn't have been released until then.
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You're right it seems.
Looks like Stoss is saying via Twitter that the story is running tomorrow and that he took it down today to double check figures...
That or the JMU Goons* have been hired by the admin to tell Stoss that he take the article down or he sleeps with the fishes.
*JMU Goons led by Jace Edwards*
I didn't see the article- did he mention figures or possibly hypothesize on numbers that might have brought him under fire from the school?
(06-26-2013 02:10 PM)JMUETC Wrote: My point wasn't at all about saying we were going FBS or even commenting specifically about money. I understand why he would never do that. I guess I just feel like many of his responses to high priority type questions come off sounding like he is not interested or not aware or hasn't thought about it at all. To me, they don't come off as having come from a leader which I expect an AD to be.
Questions I would expect him to have well thought out answers too:
Moving to FBS (and what it will entail)
Carr Report
Expectations for all sports teams
title IX compliance
Changes to CAA
Convo replacement
Topics for which a less polished answer is acceptable:
Uniform color combinations
Quality of concessions at BFS
MRD's pregame songs
Radfords recent diploma misspelling
I agree. Not only should the AD be a leader, they should be a PR professional, always putting the athletic teams and the University's best public foot forward. That part of the job shouldn't be too hard because you've got time to think up generic, positive statements that wouldn't reveal a single fact, but would still excite and interest fans. Maybe there's more to it than the quotes excerpted here, but that was not a statement calculated to get any current or potential donor enthused about donating, FCS or FBS.
(06-26-2013 03:43 PM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote: "James Madison is trying to change the mentality of donors seeking tangible perks and recognized that a move to I-A in football could potentially help."
The past tense use of "recognized" could lead some to believe that they have already made up their mind.
"recognizes" seems to be the appropriate word in this sentence to describe a JMU admin who is still weighing their options.
haha.. OK, "over-analyzing" comments..... GO!
Yea I think this takes the cake for over-analyzing. LOL
(06-26-2013 04:08 PM)QuinDuke Wrote: I agree. Not only should the AD be a leader, they should be a PR professional, always putting the athletic teams and the University's best public foot forward. That part of the job shouldn't be too hard because you've got time to think up generic, positive statements that wouldn't reveal a single fact, but would still excite and interest fans. Maybe there's more to it than the quotes excerpted here, but that was not a statement calculated to get any current or potential donor enthused about donating, FCS or FBS.
This point was hammered down while coming home from work today. ODU's AD was on the radio and the host asked about the move to FBS. Selig said that once he heard the possibility of VCU, GMU, and GaST leaving, he placed calls to the MAC, A10, Big East, CUSA to get options because he "didn't know what would be left for ODU in the CAA."
I haven't spoken a lot about a conference change because the 18-24 month period hasn't expired, but I don't like hearing other AD's actively trying to improve their respective schools, while Bourne questions whether or not certain actions will happen.
Quote:"We've heard that," Bourne said when asked about donors' interest in going I-A. "We've heard it verbally from a certain amount of our fans and donors that would give if we did that, and so it's been voiced. … It's kind of hard to gauge exactly what that means and what dollars would flow from it."
^ Is that quote directly from the article?
If so, talk about "**** or get off the pot."
What is this guy waiting for? Promissory notes? Maybe some of the fans here can open up an escrow account and dangle it in front of him. "You only get it if/when the move is made."
(This post was last modified: 06-26-2013 06:10 PM by TARDledo.)
Quote:"We've heard that," Bourne said when asked about donors' interest in going I-A. "We've heard it verbally from a certain amount of our fans and donors that would give if we did that, and so it's been voiced. … It's kind of hard to gauge exactly what that means and what dollars would flow from it."
^ Is that quote directly from the article?
If so, talk about "**** or get off the pot."
What is this guy waiting for? Promissory notes? Maybe some of the fans here can open up an escrow account and dangle it in front of him. "You only get it if/when the move is made."
I can't take credit for that, got that from JMAD1SON over at the Zone. BTW, the Zone is kinda depressing as its like a ghost town. Its like when Mt. Vesuvious abruptly erupted and covered that Roman City with lava and you can see all the activity and churn, and turmoil.... And then it all stopped. Tumbleweeds and crickets of an ancient civilization.
(This post was last modified: 06-26-2013 07:20 PM by Miami (Oh) Yeah !.)
(06-26-2013 03:14 PM)BSKB 24 Wrote: What I would like to see happen is this; they make an announcement that if they can raise $2,000,000 in 12 months we will move to 1A. And then say, we have been monitoring the message boards and we know very well all those who are so critical but have repeatedly said they would give a lot more if we moved up. We look forward to the fulfillment of their pledges and will publish the amount of their generous gifts!
I would LOVE for them to give us a $$$ number to hit for FBS.
It's a fact donations increase. The Jacobson commited 2.5 Million. The prior week Ed Ward donated 2.25 Million.
Quote:AMHERST, Mass. - University of Massachusetts Director of Athletics John McCutcheon has announced today that the new UMass Football Press and Skybox Complex at McGuirk Alumni Stadium will be named in honor of Martin & Richard Jacobson.
Martin (Marty) Jacobson committed $2.5 million to the University on Monday afternoon in a ceremony featuring UMass Chancellor Kumble R. Subbaswamy, Athletics Director John McCutcheon, and Head Football Coach Charley Molnar.
(06-26-2013 04:08 PM)QuinDuke Wrote: I agree. Not only should the AD be a leader, they should be a PR professional, always putting the athletic teams and the University's best public foot forward. That part of the job shouldn't be too hard because you've got time to think up generic, positive statements that wouldn't reveal a single fact, but would still excite and interest fans. Maybe there's more to it than the quotes excerpted here, but that was not a statement calculated to get any current or potential donor enthused about donating, FCS or FBS.
This point was hammered down while coming home from work today. ODU's AD was on the radio and the host asked about the move to FBS. Selig said that once he heard the possibility of VCU, GMU, and GaST leaving, he placed calls to the MAC, A10, Big East, CUSA to get options because he "didn't know what would be left for ODU in the CAA."
I haven't spoken a lot about a conference change because the 18-24 month period hasn't expired, but I don't like hearing other AD's actively trying to improve their respective schools, while Bourne questions whether or not certain actions will happen.
It's easy for Selig to talk about it now. He said nothing when ODU was in negotiations with various conferences. 24 hours before ODU announced, they told JMU and the CAA they were not moving. My point is that Selig kept his mouth shut about everything he was doing until the time was right. If any of the posters want to talk to Bourne, he's scheduled to be at the Dinner with the Dukes event on 6/27 in RIC. He will answer questions, so come on down and ask him what you want to ask him.
(06-26-2013 01:56 PM)Potomac Wrote: At least he answered a question that contained I-A or FBS in the same sentence?
No joke...this was the first thought that came into my mind. I'm not making light of domestic violence, but this is what mental domestic violence must feel like. "He...he...he mentioned it! So you're telling me there's a chance."
(06-26-2013 03:14 PM)BSKB 24 Wrote: What I would like to see happen is this; they make an announcement that if they can raise $2,000,000 in 12 months we will move to 1A. And then say, we have been monitoring the message boards and we know very well all those who are so critical but have repeatedly said they would give a lot more if we moved up. We look forward to the fulfillment of their pledges and will publish the amount of their generous gifts!
I've not promised outlandish gifting but I have promised $500 on top of my current DC gift. I've already contributed $100 to the visionless vision fund the day GMCC left and JMU reacted with the Carr report.
I doubt $600 would move the new gift average needle but it's not chump change.
I just got a new job, and that's in the range of what I would give. And I'm only 26...with a mound of grad school debt. Don't short-change yourself. That's a decent chunk of change, especially for us recent grads, and personally, for someone who has never donated to athletics before (I've only given to the history program).
(06-26-2013 07:26 PM)HotHamandCheese84 Wrote: It's easy for Selig to talk about it now. He said nothing when ODU was in negotiations with various conferences. 24 hours before ODU announced, they told JMU and the CAA they were not moving. My point is that Selig kept his mouth shut about everything he was doing until the time was right. If any of the posters want to talk to Bourne, he's scheduled to be at the Dinner with the Dukes event on 6/27 in RIC. He will answer questions, so come on down and ask him what you want to ask him.
We were very open about our move to CUSA.
"Yeager praised the open lines of communication between his office, ODU and Conference USA throughout the process."
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Stoss - "Move To I-A Could Motivate Donors"
