(06-25-2013 11:31 AM)quo vadis Wrote: Yes, and don't forget about the money: The Sugar pays out $12.5m per conference more than the Orange. That's equivalent to playing in THREE Cap One Bowls!
Another point for others to bear in mind when evaluating the ACC and Big 12 bowls is that the ACC does have to share its bowls with Notre Dame, but does not share the money. I.e., if the Cap One takes Notre Dame instead of an ACC team, Notre Dame keeps all the money, it does not share that with the ACC. That has to be factored in to the equation.
As for the Orange Bowl, it declined because it got stuck with the ACC and Big East most years. This new arrangement, with the SEC/B1G and ND, should help restore this grand old bowl to its former lustre.
*The OB might actually pay the ACC about $1 million less than the Rose/Champions pays the Pac-12, Big XII, SEC, and B1G, because the ACC gets a heightened payout when ND plays, and the ACC gets a MUCH greater payout when the game hosts. Assuming that ND plays in it two times, the OB will pay an average of $38.96 million to the Rose/Sugar Bowl's average of $40 million. Obviously the SEC and the B1G are in a better position than the ACC because they have a partial tie-in with the OB in addition to a primary tie-in with the Rose/Sugar Bowl, but conference size aside, the Pac-12 and the Big XII aren't in a substantially better financial position.
**The ACC gets $55 million when the OB hosts, which will be 4 times over the next 12 years. That's a total of $220 million ($55 million times 4). The ACC gets $41.25 million when ND plays in the OB, which will happen twice over the next 12 years, totaling $82.5 million (41.25 times 2) over that time. Finally the ACC gets $27.5 million every time either the SEC, or the B1G plays in the OB, which will happen 6 times in the next 12 years. So over those 6 times, the ACC will be paid $165 million dollars ($27.5 million times 6). Combined, the ACC will be paid $467.5 million (220+82.5+165) over that 12 year period, which totals $38.96 million per year (467.5/12).
**In fact, the Pac-12 and the Big XII
might not even be in a better competitive position. If the B1G sends a team to the FF, it may be the case that the best available SEC team is better than the 2nd best B1G team. In that case, the OB would be better than the Rose Bowl. Similarly, ND
might be better than the SEC/B1G rep to the Rose/Champions Bowl.
**There is much more volatility in the ACC's OB situation, because there are uneven payouts, and because the opposing side varies a lot, but it isn't necessarily worse than the Pac-12's position or the Big XII's position. Admittedly we have to cut the payout 14 different ways, instead of 10/12, which puts them at an advantage, but connections with bowls like the Capitol One Bowl should offset some of that, if not all of that.
*ND has to kick non-OB money back into the conference to be split evenly amongst the schools. Having ND as part of the ACC bowl group is a HUGE advantage, not a liability. It could, should, and may very well have lead/led to higher non-BCS per-bowl payouts and more bowls. For example, a 14 team ACC might have 8 bowl tie-ins, but adding ND might increase that to 9. That means that the average ACC team plays in 0.6428571428571429 bowls (9/14), instead of 0.5714285714285714 bowls, so the conference would be getting an extra 0.0714285714285715 for free. Add in the fact that bowls may be willing to pay on average $X for ____ v. ACC, but $X+$___ for ___ v. ACC/ND, and not only are there more bowls per team, but each bowl pays out more per bowl. That means that even if ND were to take a full bowl cut, the conference would be better off than if they weren't in the conference, and that doesn't even include the publicity advantages.
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ESPN.com/ACC-B1G Pinstripe Bowl Official/ACC also has access to Capitol One..
