(06-23-2013 02:08 PM)Smaug Wrote:  So, you heard about a high school basketball game you wouldn't have otherwise heard about, and it sickens you.

Yes....not so much the game itself, but the fact that the lame stream media would pick this "feel good" story to share.

Want a story about true sportsmanship? Here it is...

http://www.tampabay.com/sports/colleges/...mer/481640

She made the team on merit, hit a home run without the pitcher serving it up and then tore her ligament running the bases.

What? She couldn't crawl around the bases?

(06-23-2013 02:30 PM)Smaug Wrote:  What? She couldn't crawl around the bases?

Hey...I answered your question. Instead of bashing me, maybe you could tell me why a story about a mentally challenged person being thrust into a position that he is unprepared for is so appealing.

(06-23-2013 01:57 PM)blah Wrote:  

(06-22-2013 01:47 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(06-22-2013 12:30 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Like someone said, what about the kid at the end of the bench that may not get in, that's worked really hard, because of this though.
If that happens you also have an untold tragedy.

What, so the emotionally impaired shouldnt be allowed to play at all? Out of an entire season he was in one game for 90 seconds. Whose life fell apart because of it?

No, they shouldn't, if they are not good enough to make the team. It isn't a matter of whose life fell apart. It is a question of being good enough to be on the team in the first place. I don't care if you are mentally challenged, physically challenged, what color you are, what your sexual orientation is, who you worship, or where you were born. If you are good enough, I want you on my team. If you are not, I don't.

It's high school, not pro or college ball where much more is at stake and its often in the meaningless games where character is built. At least there was no parent screaming that his kid lost playing time because of this, instead the crowd loved it. And High schools often have fat and ugly cheerleaders, too......the stakes are different.

(06-23-2013 02:42 PM)blah Wrote:  

(06-23-2013 02:30 PM)Smaug Wrote:  What? She couldn't crawl around the bases?

Hey...I answered your question. Instead of bashing me, maybe you could tell me why a story about a mentally challenged person being thrust into a position that he is unprepared for is so appealing.

Disagreeing =/= "bashing".

(06-23-2013 02:49 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(06-23-2013 02:42 PM)blah Wrote:  

(06-23-2013 02:30 PM)Smaug Wrote:  What? She couldn't crawl around the bases?

Hey...I answered your question. Instead of bashing me, maybe you could tell me why a story about a mentally challenged person being thrust into a position that he is unprepared for is so appealing.

Disagreeing =/= "bashing".

"She couldn't crawl around the bases" wasn't a swipe at me?

Anyways, you still didn't answer my question...

(06-23-2013 02:43 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(06-23-2013 01:57 PM)blah Wrote:  

(06-22-2013 01:47 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(06-22-2013 12:30 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Like someone said, what about the kid at the end of the bench that may not get in, that's worked really hard, because of this though.
If that happens you also have an untold tragedy.

What, so the emotionally impaired shouldnt be allowed to play at all? Out of an entire season he was in one game for 90 seconds. Whose life fell apart because of it?

No, they shouldn't, if they are not good enough to make the team. It isn't a matter of whose life fell apart. It is a question of being good enough to be on the team in the first place. I don't care if you are mentally challenged, physically challenged, what color you are, what your sexual orientation is, who you worship, or where you were born. If you are good enough, I want you on my team. If you are not, I don't.

It's high school, not pro or college ball where much more is at stake and its often in the meaningless games where character is built. At least there was no parent screaming that his kid lost playing time because of this, instead the crowd loved it. And High schools often have fat and ugly cheerleaders, too......the stakes are different.

Wouldn't it have been so much more powerful if it had been a pro game? With the Miami Heat up by 28 on the Spurs, Eric Spoelstra calls time out and puts in the (local retard/child with cancer/cross dressing homo/fill in the blank) and then Tim Duncan being the sportsman he is passes the ball to allow the (local retard/child with cancer/cross dressing homo/fill in the blank) to get in the record books. How heart warming....

It is a shammockery no matter what level it is and teaches kids that life is fair, when it is clearly not.

(06-23-2013 03:05 PM)blah Wrote:  

(06-23-2013 02:49 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(06-23-2013 02:42 PM)blah Wrote:  

(06-23-2013 02:30 PM)Smaug Wrote:  What? She couldn't crawl around the bases?

Hey...I answered your question. Instead of bashing me, maybe you could tell me why a story about a mentally challenged person being thrust into a position that he is unprepared for is so appealing.

Disagreeing =/= "bashing".

"She couldn't crawl around the bases" wasn't a swipe at me?

No. It was pointing your argument out to you.

Quote:Anyways, you still didn't answer my question...

It was a 10 point game with 1:30 to go in a game with no implications. I'd have been bothered if it was in a tie game with :15 left in the final four.

He either hits a shot or he doesn't. The world doesn't end, either way. The purity of the sport is not sullied just because a couple of people showed a kid some compassion.

If it's a "feel good" story, and you're the only one who isn't feeling good, maybe the rest of the world isn't the problem.

That's not bashing you, either. Just an observation.

I was the kid that didn't make the team, much less make it as the last player on the bench. I can't imagine being offended, hurt or anything else because a disable classmate got a chance to get in a game. I think most any kid would have been happy for him. The payoff for something like this is that everyone around it gets a life lesson about how we treat our fellow man.

(06-23-2013 03:14 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(06-23-2013 03:05 PM)blah Wrote:  

(06-23-2013 02:49 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(06-23-2013 02:42 PM)blah Wrote:  

(06-23-2013 02:30 PM)Smaug Wrote:  What? She couldn't crawl around the bases?

Hey...I answered your question. Instead of bashing me, maybe you could tell me why a story about a mentally challenged person being thrust into a position that he is unprepared for is so appealing.

Disagreeing =/= "bashing".

"She couldn't crawl around the bases" wasn't a swipe at me?

No. It was pointing your argument out to you.

Quote:Anyways, you still didn't answer my question...

It was a 10 point game with 1:30 to go in a game with no implications. I'd have been bothered if it was in a tie game with :15 left in the final four.

He either hits a shot or he doesn't. The world doesn't end, either way. The purity of the sport is not sullied just because a couple of people showed a kid some compassion.

If it's a "feel good" story, and you're the only one who isn't feeling good, maybe the rest of the world isn't the problem.

That's not bashing you, either. Just an observation.

He didn't hit the shot...He missed shot after shot. It is only a "feel good" story because the media tells you it is. What is there to feel good about?

How about this "touching" story?
http://www.kmov.com/news/local/Parents-S...35161.html

(06-23-2013 03:29 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  I was the kid that didn't make the team, much less make it as the last player on the bench. I can't imagine being offended, hurt or anything else because a disable classmate got a chance to get in a game. I think most any kid would have been happy for him. The payoff for something like this is that everyone around it gets a life lesson about how we treat our fellow man.

But is it really a life lesson? I don't see this happening in the real world. Do you have mentally disabled people working with you? Getting "put in" to make a big decision or to mop up a done deal? Seems like more of an aberration to me.

(06-23-2013 03:12 PM)blah Wrote:  

(06-23-2013 02:43 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(06-23-2013 01:57 PM)blah Wrote:  

(06-22-2013 01:47 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(06-22-2013 12:30 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Like someone said, what about the kid at the end of the bench that may not get in, that's worked really hard, because of this though.
If that happens you also have an untold tragedy.

What, so the emotionally impaired shouldnt be allowed to play at all? Out of an entire season he was in one game for 90 seconds. Whose life fell apart because of it?

No, they shouldn't, if they are not good enough to make the team. It isn't a matter of whose life fell apart. It is a question of being good enough to be on the team in the first place. I don't care if you are mentally challenged, physically challenged, what color you are, what your sexual orientation is, who you worship, or where you were born. If you are good enough, I want you on my team. If you are not, I don't.

It's high school, not pro or college ball where much more is at stake and its often in the meaningless games where character is built. At least there was no parent screaming that his kid lost playing time because of this, instead the crowd loved it. And High schools often have fat and ugly cheerleaders, too......the stakes are different.

Wouldn't it have been so much more powerful if it had been a pro game? With the Miami Heat up by 28 on the Spurs, Eric Spoelstra calls time out and puts in the (local retard/child with cancer/cross dressing homo/fill in the blank) and then Tim Duncan being the sportsman he is passes the ball to allow the (local retard/child with cancer/cross dressing homo/fill in the blank) to get in the record books. How heart warming....

It is a shammockery no matter what level it is and teaches kids that life is fair, when it is clearly not.

Sportsmanship decreases in proportion to the increase of money involved. This wasn't about fairness, it was about doing something nice for a kid.

(06-23-2013 03:42 PM)blah Wrote:  

(06-23-2013 03:29 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  I was the kid that didn't make the team, much less make it as the last player on the bench. I can't imagine being offended, hurt or anything else because a disable classmate got a chance to get in a game. I think most any kid would have been happy for him. The payoff for something like this is that everyone around it gets a life lesson about how we treat our fellow man.

But is it really a life lesson? I don't see this happening in the real world. Do you have mentally disabled people working with you? Getting "put in" to make a big decision or to mop up a done deal? Seems like more of an aberration to me.

If you look at it from a broader perspective it is a life lesson. Showing love and compassion to those around us, doing a good deed, making someone happy, regardless of their position or mental capacity is a good thing. We all learn from the experiences around us. Someone in the stands at the game doesn't have to do something exactly like what was done in this example to have learned from it.

(06-23-2013 03:39 PM)blah Wrote:  

(06-23-2013 03:14 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(06-23-2013 03:05 PM)blah Wrote:  

(06-23-2013 02:49 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(06-23-2013 02:42 PM)blah Wrote:  Hey...I answered your question. Instead of bashing me, maybe you could tell me why a story about a mentally challenged person being thrust into a position that he is unprepared for is so appealing.

Disagreeing =/= "bashing".

"She couldn't crawl around the bases" wasn't a swipe at me?

No. It was pointing your argument out to you.

Quote:Anyways, you still didn't answer my question...

It was a 10 point game with 1:30 to go in a game with no implications. I'd have been bothered if it was in a tie game with :15 left in the final four.

He either hits a shot or he doesn't. The world doesn't end, either way. The purity of the sport is not sullied just because a couple of people showed a kid some compassion.

If it's a "feel good" story, and you're the only one who isn't feeling good, maybe the rest of the world isn't the problem.

That's not bashing you, either. Just an observation.

He didn't hit the shot...He missed shot after shot. It is only a "feel good" story because the media tells you it is. What is there to feel good about?

If I were at the game, I probably would have still thought it was pretty cool, without anyone there to tell me it was.

What is there to feel good about?

Well, let's see. Someone remembered that it's a game, and did a nice thing for a kid who probably is never going to graduate college, drive a car, live out on his own, get laid...

Not only did the kid get his moment, everybody in that gym was a better person.

The horror.

Quote:How about this "touching" story?
http://www.kmov.com/news/local/Parents-S...35161.html

That's awful, but I'm not sure what it has to do with anything.

Got to thinking of another thing we need to just do away with for you guys....Make a Wish. I mean, the little girl down the street may not can go to Disney and be princess for a day so why should the kid dying of cancer?