(03-24-2014 03:35 PM)TrueBlueAlum Wrote:  

(03-24-2014 03:31 PM)Ole Sleepy Wrote:  And a few of the seats don't have a good view...



Just my .02

I'll add though this should probably come attached with the caption:

"Objects in mirror may be closer than they appear"

Not just that, but I never liked watching football from a corner angle like that. Hard to see a lot of the action.

Maybe someone who has sat there can correct me, but from that angle it looks like it may be hard to see the action near the opposite end zone.

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(03-24-2014 11:25 AM)CajunExpress Wrote:  

(03-24-2014 11:09 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(03-24-2014 11:04 AM)CajunExpress Wrote:  This is so much better than what FAU did with their new stadium. You boys are going to be a load to handle.

Not saying anything against what Southern is doing, but FAU's stadium is beautiful.

I am kinda partial to concrete, bricks, mortar, and such over metal structures

Agreed. I'm not a fan of erector set stadiums. So thankful we expanded Paulson with concrete.


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(03-24-2014 05:16 PM)Ole Sleepy Wrote:  

(03-24-2014 03:35 PM)TrueBlueAlum Wrote:  

(03-24-2014 03:31 PM)Ole Sleepy Wrote:  And a few of the seats don't have a good view...



Just my .02

I'll add though this should probably come attached with the caption:

"Objects in mirror may be closer than they appear"

Not just that, but I never liked watching football from a corner angle like that. Hard to see a lot of the action.

Maybe someone who has sat there can correct me, but from that angle it looks like it may be hard to see the action near the opposite end zone.

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I actually like corner seats in our upper deck, but sightlines in that picture are probably less than ideal.

(03-24-2014 11:36 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(03-24-2014 11:25 AM)CajunExpress Wrote:  

(03-24-2014 11:09 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(03-24-2014 11:04 AM)CajunExpress Wrote:  This is so much better than what FAU did with their new stadium. You boys are going to be a load to handle.

Not saying anything against what Southern is doing, but FAU's stadium is beautiful.

I am kinda partial to concrete, bricks, mortar, and such over metal structures

From a pure aesthetics standpoint, I find it hard to believe anyone would disagree with you. Having said that, the "erector set" can be done well and FAU did it very well in my opinion and I love the all seatback feature, I think it's one of the best ways to improve the look of your stadium.

But let's be clear, Southern is spending $10 million to add ~6k seats and an operations building to an existing brick and morter stadium in Statesboro, GA. FAU spent $70 million to build a brand new 30k seat stadium on ocean adjacent property in Boca Raton. The two aren't exactly comparable scenarios.

The local economy dictates much of the cost with any construction. I would likely make 3 times my current income for the same job in Boca. The argument could be made that such large scale construction in rural areas would cost more due to logistics and the lack of competition, along with housing of many of the construction workers and contractors for the duration of the job. The cost of the current construction is closer to 30 million with an existing stadium.

That argument would likely be wrong.

(03-25-2014 08:34 AM)panama Wrote:  That argument would likely be wrong.

Oh thanks for clearing that up. Now that I think about it Kapps argument is solid. Particularly given that the total cost of current construction is three times what was quoted.

(03-25-2014 09:03 AM)Oldyeller Wrote:  

(03-25-2014 08:34 AM)panama Wrote:  That argument would likely be wrong.

Oh thanks for clearing that up. Now that I think about it Kapps argument is solid. Particularly given that the total cost of current construction is three times what was quoted.

I pulled that $10M from wiki, it was later explained well before your reply that it was $10M for the endzone building, $20M for the seats, and $1.2M for the video board, so I later updated it to ~$31M and then I was told it was more like $26M. Of course you would know all that if you had you know...kept reading before replying.

(03-24-2014 12:40 PM)Ole Sleepy Wrote:  Actually, just the football operations center cost over $10 million. The visitor's side expansion was a net add of 6,000 seats, as we took out some of the existing to add walkways and a new section under the deck.

I can't remember the exact totals, but with the additional seats, covered area (bathrooms, fans, concessions, etc.), FOC, plus new sound system and video boards, I think it was about $22 million total.

(03-24-2014 12:53 PM)trueeagle98 Wrote:  FYI. The 10m is just the end zone building. Another 1.2m for a video board. The seats are funded by a student fee and will cost about 20m I think.

(03-24-2014 03:01 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  So ~$31M for a new building, a new video board and ~6k seats, versus $70M for a brand new 30k seat stadium.

Again, I get the preference for brick and morter, I just think FAU did a great job with their stadium.

(03-24-2014 03:31 PM)Ole Sleepy Wrote:  I'm pretty sure it's less than $31 million. I want to say the Athletic Foundation sent our a video to boosters that says they invested about $26M in the stadium upgrades already.

Regardless if it's $26M or $31M the two situations are very different.


But better late than never I suppose oldyeller, thanks for setting me straight...

(03-25-2014 11:26 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(03-25-2014 09:03 AM)Oldyeller Wrote:  

(03-25-2014 08:34 AM)panama Wrote:  That argument would likely be wrong.

Oh thanks for clearing that up. Now that I think about it Kapps argument is solid. Particularly given that the total cost of current construction is three times what was quoted.

I pulled that $10M from wiki, it was later explained well before your reply that it was $10M for the endzone building, $20M for the seats, and $1.2M for the video board, so I later updated it to ~$31M and then I was told it was more like $26M. Of course you would know all that if you had you know...kept reading before replying.

(03-24-2014 12:40 PM)Ole Sleepy Wrote:  Actually, just the football operations center cost over $10 million. The visitor's side expansion was a net add of 6,000 seats, as we took out some of the existing to add walkways and a new section under the deck.

I can't remember the exact totals, but with the additional seats, covered area (bathrooms, fans, concessions, etc.), FOC, plus new sound system and video boards, I think it was about $22 million total.

(03-24-2014 12:53 PM)trueeagle98 Wrote:  FYI. The 10m is just the end zone building. Another 1.2m for a video board. The seats are funded by a student fee and will cost about 20m I think.

(03-24-2014 03:01 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  So ~$31M for a new building, a new video board and ~6k seats, versus $70M for a brand new 30k seat stadium.

Again, I get the preference for brick and morter, I just think FAU did a great job with their stadium.

(03-24-2014 03:31 PM)Ole Sleepy Wrote:  I'm pretty sure it's less than $31 million. I want to say the Athletic Foundation sent our a video to boosters that says they invested about $26M in the stadium upgrades already.

Regardless if it's $26M or $31M the two situations are very different.


But better late than never I suppose oldyeller, thanks for setting me straight...

And no way no how is it cheaper to build in Boca Raton than in Statesboro.

(03-25-2014 11:39 AM)panama Wrote:  

(03-25-2014 11:26 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(03-25-2014 09:03 AM)Oldyeller Wrote:  

(03-25-2014 08:34 AM)panama Wrote:  That argument would likely be wrong.

Oh thanks for clearing that up. Now that I think about it Kapps argument is solid. Particularly given that the total cost of current construction is three times what was quoted.

I pulled that $10M from wiki, it was later explained well before your reply that it was $10M for the endzone building, $20M for the seats, and $1.2M for the video board, so I later updated it to ~$31M and then I was told it was more like $26M. Of course you would know all that if you had you know...kept reading before replying.

(03-24-2014 12:40 PM)Ole Sleepy Wrote:  Actually, just the football operations center cost over $10 million. The visitor's side expansion was a net add of 6,000 seats, as we took out some of the existing to add walkways and a new section under the deck.

I can't remember the exact totals, but with the additional seats, covered area (bathrooms, fans, concessions, etc.), FOC, plus new sound system and video boards, I think it was about $22 million total.

(03-24-2014 12:53 PM)trueeagle98 Wrote:  FYI. The 10m is just the end zone building. Another 1.2m for a video board. The seats are funded by a student fee and will cost about 20m I think.

(03-24-2014 03:01 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  So ~$31M for a new building, a new video board and ~6k seats, versus $70M for a brand new 30k seat stadium.

Again, I get the preference for brick and morter, I just think FAU did a great job with their stadium.

(03-24-2014 03:31 PM)Ole Sleepy Wrote:  I'm pretty sure it's less than $31 million. I want to say the Athletic Foundation sent our a video to boosters that says they invested about $26M in the stadium upgrades already.

Regardless if it's $26M or $31M the two situations are very different.


But better late than never I suppose oldyeller, thanks for setting me straight...

And no way no how is it cheaper to build in Boca Raton than in Statesboro.

Cheaper is relative to the local economy. That's all I'm saying.

(03-25-2014 11:39 AM)panama Wrote:  

(03-25-2014 11:26 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(03-25-2014 09:03 AM)Oldyeller Wrote:  

(03-25-2014 08:34 AM)panama Wrote:  That argument would likely be wrong.

Oh thanks for clearing that up. Now that I think about it Kapps argument is solid. Particularly given that the total cost of current construction is three times what was quoted.

I pulled that $10M from wiki, it was later explained well before your reply that it was $10M for the endzone building, $20M for the seats, and $1.2M for the video board, so I later updated it to ~$31M and then I was told it was more like $26M. Of course you would know all that if you had you know...kept reading before replying.

(03-24-2014 12:40 PM)Ole Sleepy Wrote:  Actually, just the football operations center cost over $10 million. The visitor's side expansion was a net add of 6,000 seats, as we took out some of the existing to add walkways and a new section under the deck.

I can't remember the exact totals, but with the additional seats, covered area (bathrooms, fans, concessions, etc.), FOC, plus new sound system and video boards, I think it was about $22 million total.

(03-24-2014 12:53 PM)trueeagle98 Wrote:  FYI. The 10m is just the end zone building. Another 1.2m for a video board. The seats are funded by a student fee and will cost about 20m I think.

(03-24-2014 03:01 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  So ~$31M for a new building, a new video board and ~6k seats, versus $70M for a brand new 30k seat stadium.

Again, I get the preference for brick and morter, I just think FAU did a great job with their stadium.

(03-24-2014 03:31 PM)Ole Sleepy Wrote:  I'm pretty sure it's less than $31 million. I want to say the Athletic Foundation sent our a video to boosters that says they invested about $26M in the stadium upgrades already.

Regardless if it's $26M or $31M the two situations are very different.


But better late than never I suppose oldyeller, thanks for setting me straight...

And no way no how is it cheaper to build in Boca Raton than in Statesboro.

What is the difference in salary and cost of living though?

Seriously... who cares?

+1. Seriously there are people in here who would argue with a signpost and go the opposite way. Who cares if boca would or would cost more???? What the hell is the relevance? Reminds me of guys who have to compensate for other shortcomings and tell you how much all their toys cost all the time.

I guess a similar comparison would be asking how much it costs to rent someone else's stadium instead of actually having your own....

(03-26-2014 10:55 AM)Wonmoretime Wrote:  +1. Seriously there are people in here who would argue with a signpost and go the opposite way. Who cares if boca would or would cost more???? What the hell is the relevance? Reminds me of guys who have to compensate for other shortcomings and tell you how much all their toys cost all the time.

The only relevance was that someone was trashing FAU's stadium as in why would you build an erector set when you can build a concrete and mortar stadium. Relax people. Nobody insulted anyone's Mama.

(03-26-2014 10:57 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  I guess a similar comparison would be asking how much it costs to rent someone else's stadium instead of actually having your own....

(03-26-2014 10:57 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  I guess a similar comparison would be asking how much it costs to rent someone else's stadium instead of actually having your own....

10 acres of land near our campus will run you about $15M to $20M. Hence we lease te Dome. Still hoping we make a move on the Ted.

(03-26-2014 11:59 AM)panama Wrote:  

(03-26-2014 10:57 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  I guess a similar comparison would be asking how much it costs to rent someone else's stadium instead of actually having your own....

10 acres of land near our campus will run you about $15M to $20M. Hence we lease te Dome. Still hoping we make a move on the Ted.

In all seriousness, where will this money come from? You guys didn't have enough $ to have a spring game in the dome, how will you buy the Ted? Private funds?

EDIT: Actually it may not be a bad idea to try the student fee route like we did.

Oh, and they are starting to brick the front of the FOC!

(03-26-2014 12:12 PM)TrueBlueAlum Wrote:  

(03-26-2014 11:59 AM)panama Wrote:  

(03-26-2014 10:57 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  I guess a similar comparison would be asking how much it costs to rent someone else's stadium instead of actually having your own....

10 acres of land near our campus will run you about $15M to $20M. Hence we lease te Dome. Still hoping we make a move on the Ted.

In all seriousness, where will this money come from? You guys didn't have enough $ to have a spring game in the dome, how will you buy the Ted? Private funds?

EDIT: Actually it may not be a bad idea to try the student fee route like we did.

GSU doesnt have a $$$ problem. We have an AD problem. We have $1.5B in building projects in downtown as we speak. What is unspoken is that donations to athletics have dried up. Its a no confidence vote with the wallet. Ted and the land can absolutely be done with private funds and a quid pro quo with the city since nobody else wants the land and nobody knows what to do with it.

(03-26-2014 12:15 PM)TrueBlueAlum Wrote:  Oh, and they are starting to brick the front of the FOC!

When is the Spring Game?