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RE: University of Richmond thinking D 3
My prediction is that FCS football will drastically change in the years to come. Private schools, like Richmond, and small public schools, will decide to cut the cost of playing football. It is a no brainer; the professor at UR is providing cover for the administration to make additional cost saving measures. Dropping baseball and track was the first move. UR can easily move in the direction of non-scholarship FCS football like Georgetown and St. Johns. I am sure there are discussions going on at all private and small public schools looking to compete while cutting costs.
A portion of the teams in FCS currently play non or low scholarship football. I see this trend growing which will lessen the need for football conference afflictions. Richmond could cut their scholarships and play like minded schools like Georgetown and St. Johns. With a good record, they would qualify for the playoffs. At the same time UR can play big time basketball in the A10 getting a nice share of TV revenue. UR knew exactly what they were doing when they built their small stadium.
The Times Dispatch article should be a predicator of what FCS will look like in the future. Big paydays for playing BCS teams will no longer exist accompanied with higher scholarship costs will force change. It looks like ODU, APP State, GA St. and GA Southern have decided to be on the opposite side of the change than Richmond. Where will JMU be in 3 years?
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RE: University of Richmond thinking D 3
As bad as they want to join the nBE, I wouldn't be surprised if they are lobbying those schools right now with a vision for a deemphasized FCS program like Georgetown or Butler. For them, that is a much more lucrative revenue play if they could get themselves in. However who really knows?
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RE: University of Richmond thinking D 3
I predict that in a few short years there will be no more 1AA football. It is a money loser and the cost has simply become prohibitive. There will be scholarship football and non-scholarship football. There will be some really good DIII football, then. UR vs Bridgewater will become a rivalry.
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RE: University of Richmond thinking D 3
(06-12-2013 07:34 PM)BSKB 24 Wrote: I predict that in a few short years there will be no more 1AA football. It is a money loser and the cost has simply become prohibitive. There will be scholarship football and non-scholarship football. There will be some really good DIII football, then. UR vs Bridgewater will become a rivalry.
As Mikey said, the only way UR drops to D3 football is if the NCAA does away with the requirement for D1 basketball schools to maintain football teams at the D1 level (if they choose to have a team). I still think Richmond is a much better fit for the Patriot for football though, which would allow them to be with more like-minded schools while dropping their scholarships. They obviously don't care about the CAA so I'm not sure why they haven't made that move yet.
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RE: University of Richmond thinking D 3
(06-12-2013 06:45 PM)HMK Wrote: My prediction is that FCS football will drastically change in the years to come. Private schools, like Richmond, and small public schools, will decide to cut the cost of playing football. It is a no brainer; the professor at UR is providing cover for the administration to make additional cost saving measures. Dropping baseball and track was the first move. UR can easily move in the direction of non-scholarship FCS football like Georgetown and St. Johns. I am sure there are discussions going on at all private and small public schools looking to compete while cutting costs.
A portion of the teams in FCS currently play non or low scholarship football. I see this trend growing which will lessen the need for football conference afflictions. Richmond could cut their scholarships and play like minded schools like Georgetown and St. Johns. With a good record, they would qualify for the playoffs. At the same time UR can play big time basketball in the A10 getting a nice share of TV revenue. UR knew exactly what they were doing when they built their small stadium.
The Times Dispatch article should be a predicator of what FCS will look like in the future. Big paydays for playing BCS teams will no longer exist accompanied with higher scholarship costs will force change. It looks like ODU, APP State, GA St. and GA Southern have decided to be on the opposite side of the change than Richmond. Where will JMU be in 3 years?
WTF???
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RE: University of Richmond thinking D 3
(06-12-2013 08:56 PM)JMUSuperfan2000 Wrote: (06-12-2013 07:34 PM)BSKB 24 Wrote: I predict that in a few short years there will be no more 1AA football. It is a money loser and the cost has simply become prohibitive. There will be scholarship football and non-scholarship football. There will be some really good DIII football, then. UR vs Bridgewater will become a rivalry.
As Mikey said, the only way UR drops to D3 football is if the NCAA does away with the requirement for D1 basketball schools to maintain football teams at the D1 level (if they choose to have a team). I still think Richmond is a much better fit for the Patriot for football though, which would allow them to be with more like-minded schools while dropping their scholarships. They obviously don't care about the CAA so I'm not sure why they haven't made that move yet.
Exactly what I am saying. I think the entire structure will change and there will be lots of D1 basketball schools that will field DIII football. The NCAA will change ruling.
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RE: University of Richmond thinking D 3
Richmond can do whatever it wants with a $2 billion endowment fund. I do agree long term the whole sport of football is in trouble.
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RE: University of Richmond thinking D 3
(06-14-2013 06:39 PM)lknspider Wrote: Richmond can do whatever it wants with a $2 billion endowment fund. I do agree long term the whole sport of football is in trouble.
Haha. One post and guess where it is. took the time to register just to post some snot about their endowment.
Welcome ladies and gentlemen, over here you will see the Richmond Tick fan, in all it's pompous arrogant privileged glory.
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RE: University of Richmond thinking D 3
Jmu Dunk...please note I have been a member and frequent poster on your previous message board. I accept your apology for your snarly comment.
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RE: University of Richmond thinking D 3
(06-14-2013 09:48 PM)lknspider Wrote: Jmu Dunk...please note I have been a member and frequent poster on your previous message board. I accept your apology for your snarly comment.
-1. "snarly"? someone is too sensitive and defensive.
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RE: University of Richmond thinking D 3
(06-12-2013 10:23 PM)BDKJMU Wrote: (06-12-2013 06:45 PM)HMK Wrote: My prediction is that FCS football will drastically change in the years to come. Private schools, like Richmond, and small public schools, will decide to cut the cost of playing football. It is a no brainer; the professor at UR is providing cover for the administration to make additional cost saving measures. Dropping baseball and track was the first move. UR can easily move in the direction of non-scholarship FCS football like Georgetown and St. Johns. I am sure there are discussions going on at all private and small public schools looking to compete while cutting costs.
A portion of the teams in FCS currently play non or low scholarship football. I see this trend growing which will lessen the need for football conference afflictions. Richmond could cut their scholarships and play like minded schools like Georgetown and St. Johns. With a good record, they would qualify for the playoffs. At the same time UR can play big time basketball in the A10 getting a nice share of TV revenue. UR knew exactly what they were doing when they built their small stadium.
The Times Dispatch article should be a predicator of what FCS will look like in the future. Big paydays for playing BCS teams will no longer exist accompanied with higher scholarship costs will force change. It looks like ODU, APP State, GA St. and GA Southern have decided to be on the opposite side of the change than Richmond. Where will JMU be in 3 years?
WTF???
He meant to say St. Francis! Senior moment.
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RE: University of Richmond thinking D 3
(06-15-2013 04:54 AM)BSKB 24 Wrote: (06-12-2013 10:23 PM)BDKJMU Wrote: (06-12-2013 06:45 PM)HMK Wrote: My prediction is that FCS football will drastically change in the years to come. Private schools, like Richmond, and small public schools, will decide to cut the cost of playing football. It is a no brainer; the professor at UR is providing cover for the administration to make additional cost saving measures. Dropping baseball and track was the first move. UR can easily move in the direction of non-scholarship FCS football like Georgetown and St. Johns. I am sure there are discussions going on at all private and small public schools looking to compete while cutting costs.
A portion of the teams in FCS currently play non or low scholarship football. I see this trend growing which will lessen the need for football conference afflictions. Richmond could cut their scholarships and play like minded schools like Georgetown and St. Johns. With a good record, they would qualify for the playoffs. At the same time UR can play big time basketball in the A10 getting a nice share of TV revenue. UR knew exactly what they were doing when they built their small stadium.
The Times Dispatch article should be a predicator of what FCS will look like in the future. Big paydays for playing BCS teams will no longer exist accompanied with higher scholarship costs will force change. It looks like ODU, APP State, GA St. and GA Southern have decided to be on the opposite side of the change than Richmond. Where will JMU be in 3 years?
WTF???
He meant to say St. Francis! Senior moment.
Oh, ok. St John's in NYC was a non scholly Div I in name only program in the old Metro (I think) conference that dropped football in 02'. Were one of the 20 or so Div I BB, Div III FB in 92' that were told due to the rule change that couldn't be Div I in other sports and Div III in FB, so simply started calling their FB Div I, but that is the only thing that changed. No schollies and remained Div III in caliber/in all but name.
There is a Div III FB St Johns (Minnesota I think).
(This post was last modified: 06-15-2013 06:03 AM by BDKJMU.)
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RE: University of Richmond thinking D 3
(06-13-2013 04:56 AM)BSKB 24 Wrote: (06-12-2013 08:56 PM)JMUSuperfan2000 Wrote: (06-12-2013 07:34 PM)BSKB 24 Wrote: I predict that in a few short years there will be no more 1AA football. It is a money loser and the cost has simply become prohibitive. There will be scholarship football and non-scholarship football. There will be some really good DIII football, then. UR vs Bridgewater will become a rivalry.
As Mikey said, the only way UR drops to D3 football is if the NCAA does away with the requirement for D1 basketball schools to maintain football teams at the D1 level (if they choose to have a team). I still think Richmond is a much better fit for the Patriot for football though, which would allow them to be with more like-minded schools while dropping their scholarships. They obviously don't care about the CAA so I'm not sure why they haven't made that move yet.
Exactly what I am saying. I think the entire structure will change and there will be lots of D1 basketball schools that will field DIII football. The NCAA will change ruling.
Either that, or current I-AA conferences will either go "full" scholarship or offer none at all (like the Pioneer League). I think that would be something beneficial to all (within I-AA). You can have the Pioneer, SWAC, MEAC, Patriot, and possibly NEC not offer football scholarships and then form their own post-season tournament. That leaves the Big Sky, CAA, OVC, MVC, and SoCon to offer the full number of scholarships and have their own tournament. (Big South football will probably be absorbed by other conferences and the Ivies will do their own thing.)
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University of Richmond thinking D 3
Isn't the Patriot league a full scholly league now?
Edit: patriot League is offering up to 15 schollies a year starting in 2013, for a max of 60 when fully rolled out---slightly less than the FCS max of 63.
(This post was last modified: 06-16-2013 04:34 PM by brizzock.)
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