(06-06-2013 05:05 PM)Murray007 Wrote:  Just another win for Big Brother.

1949 today is anniversary of release of "1984"
-and-
1944 today is anniversary of D-Day

We give our all in one for freedom,
and get us their all, 1984 style, from our own government.

(06-06-2013 04:50 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-06-2013 04:43 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(06-06-2013 04:40 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-06-2013 03:25 PM)Smaug Wrote:  Pssst. Tom.

Richard Bruce Cheney is off doing whatever it is old veeps do, and has been for the last FIVE years.

O is on our dime now.

Question, how many old veeps still question nearly every thing done by the following administration well into its second term?

And Pssst...I was against the wiretapping then and I still am now. But don't let that get in the way of your obsession.

Answer: I don't know, and really don't care.

And Pssst...So why aren't you outraged that THIS president is doing it?

And "obsession"? You'd be surprised (and probably disappointed) at how little I think about you.

Then stop the ridiculous comments on every damned thing I post!

What the hell does getting outraged do for you? We're at the mercy of our elected officials. Yeah it sucks sometimes, but we don't live in North Korea ya know.

Well, we could go along like a good sheep.

Baaaahhhhh
Most of us have just been trying to hang on!

Can there be any doubt that all governments eventually become hostile to the rights of their own citizens?

hey hey hey....

http://www.washingtonpost.com/investigat...story.html

(06-06-2013 07:23 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  hey hey hey....

http://www.washingtonpost.com/investigat...story.html

Big news, but not surprising.
Bet it is to adequately supply the information for Stellar Winds.

(06-06-2013 07:22 PM)Jugnaut Wrote:  Can there be any doubt that all governments eventually become hostile to the rights of their own citizens?

So how is it that the protections of checks and balances, put in place by the founding fathers, have been so easily circumvented?

(06-06-2013 07:23 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  hey hey hey....

http://www.washingtonpost.com/investigat...story.html

I know two Washington Post Reporters now under special surveilence.

(06-06-2013 07:33 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(06-06-2013 07:22 PM)Jugnaut Wrote:  Can there be any doubt that all governments eventually become hostile to the rights of their own citizens?

So how is it that the protections of checks and balances, put in place by the founding fathers, have been so easily circumvented?

Obama.

(06-06-2013 07:33 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(06-06-2013 07:22 PM)Jugnaut Wrote:  Can there be any doubt that all governments eventually become hostile to the rights of their own citizens?

So how is it that the protections of checks and balances, put in place by the founding fathers, have been so easily circumvented?

The public didn't hold government and politicians accountable and the courts gave their approval to the government's abuse of power.

(06-06-2013 03:15 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Let's see if I can't jump into ANOTHER thread and obfuscate the issue.