http://www.ubbullrun.com/2013/5/25/43656...umni-arena



In case you can't see it

I'm intrigued by this idea of a rebranding effort and am curious to see how far they go with it. I'm glad I'm not making the decision because I think there are very solid arguments for and against the change.

This is similar to there not being a University of Louisiana established and the challenges schools like UL LA have had in making that claim.

good luck.

Update

disappointed I won't get to hear- "Cooper at the top of the key.... he let's it go all the way from Binghampton....... bang!"

(05-25-2013 02:43 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  Update

NEW YORK!

I like it.

In my opinion, UB's "New York" branding is nothing like UL-Lafayette's attempt. While New York state doesn't have an "official" Flagship, UB is the closest to one and could reasonably be considered the de facto Flagship University for the State of New York. The State of Louisiana has a Flagship and that's LSU. In addition, the University of Louisiana system doesn't have a flagship either but if it did, the Lafayette campus doesn't have any compelling argument to claim to be it.

Wouldnt Syracuse be the flagship?

(05-25-2013 05:42 PM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  Wouldnt Syracuse be the flagship?

Maybe if it was a state school.

(05-25-2013 05:42 PM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  Wouldnt Syracuse be the flagship?

That's what Syracuse would like you to believe, but they are not part of SUNY. They declined the opportunity to join and chose to remain a private institution.

(05-25-2013 06:18 PM)bullsnotbills Wrote:  

(05-25-2013 05:42 PM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  Wouldnt Syracuse be the flagship?

That's what Syracuse would like you to believe, but they are not part of SUNY. They declined the opportunity to join and chose to remain a private institution.

I know 'cues has excellent hoops.

How does their academics compare to Buffalo's??

(05-25-2013 06:21 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(05-25-2013 06:18 PM)bullsnotbills Wrote:  

(05-25-2013 05:42 PM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  Wouldnt Syracuse be the flagship?

That's what Syracuse would like you to believe, but they are not part of SUNY. They declined the opportunity to join and chose to remain a private institution.

I know 'cues has excellent hoops.

How does their academics compare to Buffalo's??

I don't have any hard numbers, but Syracuse is academically well regarded, especially among those who might look down upon public schools. Syracuse has notable journalism and broadcast journalism programs.

(05-25-2013 06:27 PM)bullsnotbills Wrote:  

(05-25-2013 06:21 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(05-25-2013 06:18 PM)bullsnotbills Wrote:  

(05-25-2013 05:42 PM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  Wouldnt Syracuse be the flagship?

That's what Syracuse would like you to believe, but they are not part of SUNY. They declined the opportunity to join and chose to remain a private institution.

I know 'cues has excellent hoops.

How does their academics compare to Buffalo's??

I don't have any hard numbers, but Syracuse is academically well regarded, especially among those who might look down upon public schools. Syracuse has notable journalism and broadcast journalism programs.

I believe the guy that BSU hired to replace Morrie Mannies is from Syracuse.

I believe the radio guy BSU hired to replace Morrie Mannies went to 'Cuse.

Thought 'Cuse recently lost their AAU status where UB is AAU.
Like the rebranding and ownership as the leading state university.

I wish they would change the name of the entire university to New York. UB could be a Big Ten-quality university if SUNY and the little brothers would get out of the way.

Very well done. I've heard that Syracuse is making an effort to brand themselves as a New York University so it's a good thing that Buffalo is taking the Bull by the horns and staking their claim to being the Public U in New York State.

(05-25-2013 10:35 PM)Poliicious Wrote:  Very well done. I've heard that Syracuse is making an effort to brand themselves as a New York University so it's a good thing that Buffalo is taking the Bull by the horns and staking their claim to being the Public U in New York State.

That's SU's 'New York's College Team' campaign. It's a drive to engage their NYC base since the Johnnies and Rutgers can claim the same based on certain data. Only 50% of SU's students are NY'ers and most are down-staters. The logo has the slogan with the Manhattan skyline in the background, complete with ads on some NYC taxis and a few home football games moved to MetLife Stadium.

Excellent.

Any further developments regarding the actual name?

(05-25-2013 05:42 PM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  Wouldnt Syracuse be the flagship?

(05-26-2013 05:40 AM)The Optimist Wrote:  

(05-25-2013 05:42 PM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  Wouldnt Syracuse be the flagship?

Guess this is the answer:

One is flagship academically and the other flagship athletically.

As this is a MAC sports board, I don't need to remind the reader of which is which...

"Thought 'Cuse recently lost their AAU status where UB is AAU.
Like the rebranding and ownership as the leading state university. "

I think it is appropriate now (FINALLY!) to make (again) my suggestion to add Stony Brook to the MAC for FB (and all sports with UMass).

They are obviously a New York university (on Long Island).

They are an AAU member, which would give the MAC two, Buffalo and Stony Brook.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association...iversities

And they are trying really hard to grow their athletic programs with some success. Last year (2012) they beat Army badly in football, gave Syracuse a very tough game, made the Collegiate World Series in Omaha, etc.

They could become rivals for both Buffalo and UMass.

They fit today in terms of academics (obviously!!!) and athletically. This isn't like Elon University joining the CAA. Stony Brook is not a reach.

Stony Brook is a high ceiling FCS school with excellent academics, excellent location and strong desire to grow.

Is Stony Brook potentially a small-sized Rutgers????