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Owls @ Aggies ticket policy
I looked up to see if I could get some tickets for the season opener in 100 days. I was stunned to see that to buy 2 tickets I would need to donate $1000 to the Owl Club. Has this been the case for other road games? Will I get squeezed out for Notre Dame tickets next year too?

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As far as I know, this hasn't been the case for other road games. I question whether it will be the case for the Notre Dame game (if we still have it) because of the trip length difference.

My guess: We have a limited quantity of tickets and think there will be high demand. Therefore, they put the donation on it. Other schools do it for premium games.
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(05-21-2013 03:56 PM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  I looked up to see if I could get some tickets for the season opener in 100 days. I was stunned to see that to buy 2 tickets I would need to donate $1000 to the Owl Club. Has this been the case for other road games? Will I get squeezed out for Notre Dame tickets next year too?

http://grfx.cstv.com/schools/rice/graphi...cevsam.jpg

There has always been a donation amount attached to tickets like CWS. Most of the time there wasn't a figure mentioned but there was a pecking order with season ticket holders and the higher level of Owl Club level given first chance at tickets.

And there are donation levels attached to box seats at HRS, Reckling, Tudor as well.

And yes I imagine ND tickets will be the same thing...after all ND and A&M can sell all the tickets they want and only have to give the bare minimum to Rice. You actually will get better tickets (but pay more) through Stubhub or other secondary ticket agencies.
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(05-21-2013 03:56 PM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  I looked up to see if I could get some tickets for the season opener in 100 days. I was stunned to see that to buy 2 tickets I would need to donate $1000 to the Owl Club. Has this been the case for other road games? Will I get squeezed out for Notre Dame tickets next year too?

http://grfx.cstv.com/schools/rice/graphi...cevsam.jpg

Also, why does an Ohio State player have the ball in the poster?
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(05-21-2013 04:34 PM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  
(05-21-2013 03:56 PM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  I looked up to see if I could get some tickets for the season opener in 100 days. I was stunned to see that to buy 2 tickets I would need to donate $1000 to the Owl Club. Has this been the case for other road games? Will I get squeezed out for Notre Dame tickets next year too?

http://grfx.cstv.com/schools/rice/graphi...cevsam.jpg

Also, why does an Ohio State player have the ball in the poster?

Pretty sure that is a program cover shot from a previous Rice/A&M game.
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(05-21-2013 04:49 PM)d1owls4life Wrote:  
(05-21-2013 04:34 PM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  
(05-21-2013 03:56 PM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  I looked up to see if I could get some tickets for the season opener in 100 days. I was stunned to see that to buy 2 tickets I would need to donate $1000 to the Owl Club. Has this been the case for other road games? Will I get squeezed out for Notre Dame tickets next year too?

http://grfx.cstv.com/schools/rice/graphi...cevsam.jpg

Also, why does an Ohio State player have the ball in the poster?

Pretty sure that is a program cover shot from a previous Rice/A&M game.

Per the helmet project, 1978 was the only year aTm had stripes on the helmet, although it says they had 2 stripes for all games except against UT and I-State. They also had the aTm on the side

[Image: Texas_AM_OLD2.gif]

Source: http://www.nationalchamps.net/Helmet_Project/sec.htm
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The program image looks like November 1x (going by the number of letters in the date).

That would probably date it to 1948-50-52-54-56, where TAMU used blank white helmets. It's conceivable that they may have had a stripe in there at one point.

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Many programs from that era featured generic artwork not specifically meant to represent either team. Graphics were not what they are in today's Photoshop era. I think this is one of those generic covers, not meant to represent any team. And should that fail, remember that this is from a game at Kyle Field, so it would have been Aggies doing this.
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It would definitely be in November since always played them a week and half before Thanksgiving in the SWC. I tried to figure out the date which looked like 1968 when A&M moved it half of the series back to Kyle Field. The other possibilites would have to be 1956 or earlier. A&M and Rice have never had uniforms looking like that. However, the maroon on the uniforms has become much lighter than the official school maroon just like our official blue is not navy and the gray is diffferent. The official colors for schools is on the Wiki page for the universities along with the Pantome numbers.

The Rice allotment for the game will probably be something section 100 which is the worst seats in the place-on the south west end way beyound the end line but still facing north-south. I will probably go to the secondary market for tickets. I can get along being surrounded by Aggies since I went to grad school there.


(05-21-2013 06:59 PM)I45owl Wrote:  The program image looks like November 1x (going by the number of letters in the date).

That would probably date it to 1948-50-52-54-56, where TAMU used blank white helmets. It's conceivable that they may have had a stripe in there at one point.

http://www.collegefootball.bz/texas-am/opponents/rice

[Image: ricevsam.jpg]
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I might be slow, but does this mean that in order to get tickets in the "Rice" section, I need to make a donation of at least $1000? Is there any chance a few might trickle down to the plebians for whom that amount is a little on the steep side?
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(05-22-2013 06:03 PM)BSWBRice Wrote:  I might be slow, but does this mean that in order to get tickets in the "Rice" section, I need to make a donation of at least $1000? Is there any chance a few might trickle down to the plebians for whom that amount is a little on the steep side?

Well if you thought you would win the lottery the other day then I think you might believe there will be extra tickets. As your donation level goes up so does the number of tickets that you can buy. The CWS is done the same way.

Best option if you really want to go is the secondary market.
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(05-21-2013 07:06 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Many programs from that era featured generic artwork not specifically meant to represent either team. Graphics were not what they are in today's Photoshop era. I think this is one of those generic covers, not meant to represent any team. And should that fail, remember that this is from a game at Kyle Field, so it would have been Aggies doing this.

I think you nailed it, 69.

I used TinEye (http://www.tineye.com) to see if I could find an image matching the original Rice/A&M poster, but it came up with this:

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images...osters.jpg
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JOwl - I think that was a premonition that Greenspan would relocate from Indiana to Rice 05-stirthepot
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(05-22-2013 06:03 PM)BSWBRice Wrote:  I might be slow, but does this mean that in order to get tickets in the "Rice" section, I need to make a donation of at least $1000?

Funny thing about scarce resources -- they have to be rationed somehow. Price is a pretty efficient way to do it.* in this case, price is EXTREMELY efficient (in the sense of approaching optimal) from our point of view, as the premium stemming from the scarcity is going to the benefit of Rice, rather than the benefit of the home team or the event promoter, or a ticket broker, or some other entity.

*Admittedly, not the only way. Some alternatives are:
- Ration by time investment -- i.e., make people queue up in a parking lot.
- Ration by some prior classification -- e.g. alumni prioritized by class year.

These might work if the tickets were non-transferable and we could make it hard for the original buyers to re-sell them to Aggies, but as a practical matter we can't. In contrast, a price premium DOES limit re-selling, which is good; and since in this case it is Rice that captures the premium, even better.

In fact, if Rice were not making any effort to capture this premium for itself, and instead letting it be captured by ticket re-sellers, I suspect that most of us would consider it a colossal blunder.
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Thanks for the responses.

Does anyone know what the difference is between this game and our recent games at UT? I was always able to get "Rice" tickets to those games relatively easily. Did A&M just not give us the same number of seats?
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The seats that A&M will probably assign us (my guess in Section 100) are probably worse for actually seeing the game than watching it on the wall size television at the Williams Former Student Center on their campus. I wonder if the game will be picked up on television.
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(05-21-2013 04:13 PM)Tiki Owl Wrote:  
(05-21-2013 03:56 PM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  I looked up to see if I could get some tickets for the season opener in 100 days. I was stunned to see that to buy 2 tickets I would need to donate $1000 to the Owl Club. Has this been the case for other road games? Will I get squeezed out for Notre Dame tickets next year too?

http://grfx.cstv.com/schools/rice/graphi...cevsam.jpg

There has always been a donation amount attached to tickets like CWS. Most of the time there wasn't a figure mentioned but there was a pecking order with season ticket holders and the higher level of Owl Club level given first chance at tickets.

And there are donation levels attached to box seats at HRS, Reckling, Tudor as well.

And yes I imagine ND tickets will be the same thing...after all ND and A&M can sell all the tickets they want and only have to give the bare minimum to Rice. You actually will get better tickets (but pay more) through Stubhub or other secondary ticket agencies.

You're right. Don't go through the Owls ticket office for the A&M game. Order through the A&M ticket office or StubHub. Maybe even Ticketmaster. You won't be sitting with other Rice fans unless you all order as a block, but you'll be at the game.
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yeah, I've discovered that. I need six and my allotment won't get anwhere near what I need
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(05-21-2013 04:13 PM)d1owls4life Wrote:  As far as I know, this hasn't been the case for other road games. I question whether it will be the case for the Notre Dame game (if we still have it) because of the trip length difference.

This site still shows Rice on the 2014 Notre Dame schedule with the game on August 30. However, Notre Dame still has nine opponents scheduled (Arizona State has been dropped) and four ACC teams to schedule, so one more game needs to go. I'm guessing one of the Owls (at Temple or our game in South Bend).

http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa-14/indep...hedule.php
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(05-23-2013 06:06 PM)ESE84 Wrote:  
(05-21-2013 04:13 PM)d1owls4life Wrote:  As far as I know, this hasn't been the case for other road games. I question whether it will be the case for the Notre Dame game (if we still have it) because of the trip length difference.

This site still shows Rice on the 2014 Notre Dame schedule with the game on August 30. However, Notre Dame still has nine opponents scheduled (Arizona State has been dropped) and four ACC teams to schedule, so one more game needs to go. I'm guessing one of the Owls (at Temple or our game in South Bend).

http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa-14/indep...hedule.php

Yeah, that's what I was basing that comment on. I wouldn't be shocked if we get paid off so that they can fit their ACC games in.
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