Pitt doesn't make a splash in northeastern PA. I suppose we may have a chance at the mid-atlantic because we do have a lot of alums in Washington DC. Then again, who doesn't?

Well if we take Georgetown for all sports but football, we might as well consider St. John's too. It helps with content and markets for the ACC Network and both are strong academic schools.

(06-02-2013 06:49 PM)texasorange Wrote:  Well if we take Georgetown for all sports but football, we might as well consider St. John's too. It helps with content and markets for the ACC Network and both are strong academic schools.

I agree with Crazy Paco that this ship has sailed.

Cheers,
Neil

(06-02-2013 06:54 PM)omniorange Wrote:  

(06-02-2013 06:49 PM)texasorange Wrote:  Well if we take Georgetown for all sports but football, we might as well consider St. John's too. It helps with content and markets for the ACC Network and both are strong academic schools.

I agree with Crazy Paco that this ship has sailed.

Cheers,
Neil

Neil,

You and CrazyPaco might be right. However, lets see how well this new Big East works out. Also, it can't hurt sending feelers out. I have to assume the ACC would mean more revenue for them.

(06-02-2013 07:00 PM)texasorange Wrote:  

(06-02-2013 06:54 PM)omniorange Wrote:  

(06-02-2013 06:49 PM)texasorange Wrote:  Well if we take Georgetown for all sports but football, we might as well consider St. John's too. It helps with content and markets for the ACC Network and both are strong academic schools.

I agree with Crazy Paco that this ship has sailed.

Cheers,
Neil

Neil,

You and CrazyPaco might be right. However, lets see how we'll this new Big East works out. Also, it can't hurt sending feelers out. I have to assume the ACC would mean more revenue for them.

Agreed about the possibility of FOX overpaying and maybe the next contract won't see much of an increase. I still think the nnnBE will do fine for a while and then we will start to see a decline around year 7 or 8. But they still will be current A10 good.

I, personally, am not against the idea either. I argued for years over on the Big East board that a partial hybrid can work.

Cheers,
Neil

"Blocking strategy" is overstated to a degree in my opinion. Gee may have been in favor of bigger expansion before, but most the other presidents weren't or we wouldn't have stopped at 12 in 2010. It was the end of the PAC-12 alliance, the sanctions on Penn State, and the ACC's move to lock up the northeast (adding Pitt and Syracuse and taking away a lot of games vs. Notre Dame) that I think prompted most the presidents to come onboard. The ACC's presence is weakened in the Mid-Atlantic, but strengthened a lot of other places. Since 14 looks to be both conferences norm for awhile, nothing else much more is going to change.

From today's B1G press release on the Pinstripe Bowl tie in: "Once we saw the success of the New Era Pinstripe Bowl, it became obvious - especially with the Big Ten's growing East Coast footprint - that being in the media capital of the world at one of sports' most renowned venues was a natural pairing," said Big Ten Commissioner James E. Delany

http://www.bigten.org/sports/m-footbl/sp...13aac.html

Also announced that the B1G would be placing significant signage in the stadium. Wonder what that means for SU's existing signage?

In separate news, Rutgers announced that it would be playing a 2015 road game vs. Army at Yankee Stadium.

All around, a big push to create awareness in NYC. Thank goodness for the disaster that is the current Rutgers athletic department situation!

Does the AAC have any content the new ACCN might be willing to purchase?

(06-03-2013 06:48 PM)Dasville Wrote:  Does the AAC have any content the new ACCN might be willing to purchase?

No.

(06-03-2013 06:53 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(06-03-2013 06:48 PM)Dasville Wrote:  Does the AAC have any content the new ACCN might be willing to purchase?

No.

Ditto!

(06-03-2013 06:02 PM)orangefan Wrote:  From today's B1G press release on the Pinstripe Bowl tie in: "Once we saw the success of the New Era Pinstripe Bowl, it became obvious - especially with the Big Ten's growing East Coast footprint - that being in the media capital of the world at one of sports' most renowned venues was a natural pairing," said Big Ten Commissioner James E. Delany

http://www.bigten.org/sports/m-footbl/sp...13aac.html

(06-03-2013 09:03 PM)KnightChris Wrote:  

(06-02-2013 06:49 PM)texasorange Wrote:  Well if we take Georgetown for all sports but football, we might as well consider St. John's too. It helps with content and markets for the ACC Network and both are strong academic schools.

St. John's is not a strong academic school.

It's undergraduate programs are pretty good. They aren't an embarrassment for sure.

(06-03-2013 09:12 PM)texasorange Wrote:  

(06-03-2013 09:03 PM)KnightChris Wrote:  

(06-02-2013 06:49 PM)texasorange Wrote:  Well if we take Georgetown for all sports but football, we might as well consider St. John's too. It helps with content and markets for the ACC Network and both are strong academic schools.

St. John's is not a strong academic school.

It's undergraduate programs are pretty good. They aren't an embarrassment for sure.

My issue would be having the ACC go beyond 16 schools. Anything larger than 16 becomes difficult to schedule and probably requires the last place school to be excluded from the ACC basketball tournament.

Given that, if the ACC were inclined to take on a non-football school, it should choose one from among Georgetown, Villanova and St. John's. Of these, I'd strongly prefer to take Georegetown based upon academics, recent basketball success, its rivalry with Syracuse, strength of local fan support, lacrosse, and to serve the existing ACC fanbase in DC and Maryland.

I kinda like the acc taking all of them, add st john's, nova and gtown

atlantic: BC, Cuse, Pitt, Lville, miami, ND, Gtown, Nova, St Johns

Coastal: UVA, Va tech, UNC, DUke, Wake, Nc state, Clemson, Ga tech, FSU

the hoop tourney could become a 2 weekend event, football stays at 14. IF espn wants a network for the acc, landing gtown, nova and st johns sure helps with content and markets + rips apart the big east before it gets off the ground. They probably become more of a big central with seton hall and providence maybe going to the a10.