(05-10-2013 08:28 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  

(05-10-2013 08:20 AM)uchoops Wrote:  

(05-10-2013 07:11 AM)Maize Wrote:  Realignment ended by Noon of 19 April 2013...that is when the ACC Presidents signed off on the GoR....time to move on.

I guess it's time for you to "Move On" to the ACC board..so long.....

We will July 1, 2014

Try to do it with class.

(05-10-2013 08:09 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  

(05-09-2013 08:59 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  According to the last article I read, UConn was denied admission to the ACC simply because of our lack of FB tradition. It wasn't due to inferior FB prowess, TV market, academics, etc. Just ... tradition.

UConn needs to win and somehow develop tradition.

The ACC had to give an excuse. Its just like being turned down for employment.

If realignment had happened a few years ago with Edsall & Kragthorpe coaching, UConn would be in the ACC. But it was done with Pasqualoni & Strong coaching.

Beating up on UCONN is gonna be fun.

That said I think your AD was very respectful of the league and extremely level headed.

As a fan of the school that got the last lifeboat it blows my mind that we get to play UCONN in basketball every year.

Melky is smoking crack if he thinks UMASS is ever going to be a good football school and I cant even comment on the SUNY stuff.

(05-10-2013 09:22 PM)panicstricken Wrote:  Melky is smoking crack if he thinks UMASS is ever going to be a good football school and I cant even comment on the SUNY stuff.

Melky's post is, but, the tip of the iceberg compared to all the other posts on realignment on here. The AAC is perfectly fine (relatively speaking) at 12, AND ONLY 12, all-sports schools. Realignment has stopped. Don't need to add schools to a league that is only getting $2 million/year.

One thing about Melky... at least his school has been playing in this league. No one else has technically joined yet, and there are plenty of them trying to reconfigure the league.

Correction we will have 12 football schools and 11 all sports. I would still add VCU to complement Navy. No need to add anyone else.

Of course Cuban - DUUUUUUH...

BJUnklFkr =

Yes, ONE non-FB would be fine, as an offset. But, to me, that's it. But, if you don't have divisions for other sports, we don't really need an even number for them.

Agree but divisions for Olympic sports might be good travel wise
West
SMU,Houston,Tulane,Memphis,Tulsa,Cincinnati
East
USF,UCF,ECU,VCU,Temple,UConn

(05-10-2013 09:22 PM)panicstricken Wrote:  Beating up on UCONN is gonna be fun.

That said I think your AD was very respectful of the league and extremely level headed.

As a fan of the school that got the last lifeboat it blows my mind that we get to play UCONN in basketball every year.

Your post reminds us about point of view. From yours, an invite to the AAC was the last spot on a lifeboat escaping a sinking ship. From my perspective as a USF fan, the AAC is the sinking ship.

(05-10-2013 09:22 PM)panicstricken Wrote:  Beating up on UCONN is gonna be fun.

That said I think your AD was very respectful of the league and extremely level headed.

As a fan of the school that got the last lifeboat it blows my mind that we get to play UCONN in basketball every year.

Your post reminds us about point of view. From yours, an invite to the AAC was the last spot on a lifeboat escaping a sinking ship. From my perspective as a USF fan, the AAC is the sinking ship and I'm scrambling for a lifeboat to escape it.

(05-11-2013 06:07 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(05-10-2013 09:22 PM)panicstricken Wrote:  Beating up on UCONN is gonna be fun.

That said I think your AD was very respectful of the league and extremely level headed.

As a fan of the school that got the last lifeboat it blows my mind that we get to play UCONN in basketball every year.

Your post reminds us about point of view. From yours, an invite to the AAC was the last spot on a lifeboat escaping a sinking ship. From my perspective as a USF fan, the AAC is the sinking ship and I'm scrambling for a lifeboat to escape it.

the truth is somewhere in the middle, grasshopper

(05-10-2013 09:17 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  

(05-10-2013 08:09 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  

(05-09-2013 08:59 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  According to the last article I read, UConn was denied admission to the ACC simply because of our lack of FB tradition. It wasn't due to inferior FB prowess, TV market, academics, etc. Just ... tradition.

UConn needs to win and somehow develop tradition.

The ACC had to give an excuse. Its just like being turned down for employment.

If realignment had happened a few years ago with Edsall & Kragthorpe coaching, UConn would be in the ACC. But it was done with Pasqualoni & Strong coaching.

Its not like UConn was a dominant team with Edsall. With Petrino we would have been ACC.

(05-11-2013 10:29 PM)L1C4 Wrote:  

(05-10-2013 09:17 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  

(05-10-2013 08:09 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  

(05-09-2013 08:59 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  According to the last article I read, UConn was denied admission to the ACC simply because of our lack of FB tradition. It wasn't due to inferior FB prowess, TV market, academics, etc. Just ... tradition.

UConn needs to win and somehow develop tradition.

The ACC had to give an excuse. Its just like being turned down for employment.

If realignment had happened a few years ago with Edsall & Kragthorpe coaching, UConn would be in the ACC. But it was done with Pasqualoni & Strong coaching.

Its not like UConn was a dominant team with Edsall. With Petrino we would have been ACC.

I agree with that. With Edsall, we were respectable. We're underachieving with Pasqualoni.

(05-11-2013 06:07 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  From my perspective as a USF fan

I'm glad you made that clear. We've seen you as a Temple fan and ECU fan... with a deep abiding love for LSU..

Quo, Your perspective on the AAC doesn't mean a thing because you don't have a dog in the hunt. But, its charming to see you preface your posts with "as a USF fan"... (Amateurish troll posting technique).

(05-11-2013 06:07 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(05-10-2013 09:22 PM)panicstricken Wrote:  Beating up on UCONN is gonna be fun.

That said I think your AD was very respectful of the league and extremely level headed.

As a fan of the school that got the last lifeboat it blows my mind that we get to play UCONN in basketball every year.

Your post reminds us about point of view. From yours, an invite to the AAC was the last spot on a lifeboat escaping a sinking ship. From my perspective as a USF fan, the AAC is the sinking ship and I'm scrambling for a lifeboat to escape it.

I can understand the frustration of UConn,UC and USF fans feeling they have then. Step back. But know s nt a sinking ship is more like being relegated to a smaller boat and wanting to move back to a larger one.
We coud be in CUSA,MAC or Sunbelt and those are worse options.

As a graduate of USF back in the late 70s when we fought just to have a division 3 football team, just to see my school playing and beating the FSU,Auburn,Notre Dame and Miami is something that I didn't think I would ever see.
Many in our fan base were spoiled by our fast rise in the college football world and expect things to be just handed to them. I would say in fan support and fundraising we have more in common with most of the AAC schools than those conferences we look to become part of. Is up to us as fans and alumni to continue to grow our base.

(05-12-2013 08:17 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(05-11-2013 06:07 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(05-10-2013 09:22 PM)panicstricken Wrote:  Beating up on UCONN is gonna be fun.

That said I think your AD was very respectful of the league and extremely level headed.

As a fan of the school that got the last lifeboat it blows my mind that we get to play UCONN in basketball every year.

Your post reminds us about point of view. From yours, an invite to the AAC was the last spot on a lifeboat escaping a sinking ship. From my perspective as a USF fan, the AAC is the sinking ship and I'm scrambling for a lifeboat to escape it.

I can understand the frustration of UConn,UC and USF fans feeling they have then. Step back. But know s nt a sinking ship is more like being relegated to a smaller boat and wanting to move back to a larger one.
We coud be in CUSA,MAC or Sunbelt and those are worse options.

As a graduate of USF back in the late 70s when we fought just to have a division 3 football team, just to see my school playing and beating the FSU,Auburn,Notre Dame and Miami is something that I didn't think I would ever see.
Many in our fan base were spoiled by our fast rise in the college football world and expect things to be just handed to them. I would say in fan support and fundraising we have more in common with most of the AAC schools than those conferences we look to become part of. Is up to us as fans and alumni to continue to grow our base.

No question, our elevation to AQ was not based on football or basketball dominance in CUSA but on market factors and perceived growth potential. Nor did i mean to imply that our fan support and on the field performance is superior to our new AAC mates. Heck, according to the media companies we are a Group B property within the AAC.

But, i fear my sinking ship analogy has some truth in it not captured by your smaller boat one: while USF athletics will always move forward, it is going to be much harder to build that fan support playing an AAC schedule. This fall will be 30 years since i stepped on our campus for the first time and i've never seen fan morale so low. There seems to be bewilderment about how to move forward.

Good perspective, Cubanbull. You can look at UConn two ways ....

1) We have demonstrated an ability to compete & succeed at the ACC level (especially non-football). And considering our market & academics, we belong there. Those are our peer institutions.

2) We were a 1-AA level football program for about 110 years (including when I was an undergrad in the early/mid 1980's), and we're just happy to be playing 1-A football with anyone.

(05-12-2013 09:13 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  This fall will be 30 years since i stepped on our campus for the first time and i've never seen fan morale so low. There seems to be bewilderment about how to move forward.

That's a fancy trick to pull off from Louisiana!! You are no USF insider.

(05-12-2013 11:56 AM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(05-12-2013 09:13 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  This fall will be 30 years since i stepped on our campus for the first time and i've never seen fan morale so low. There seems to be bewilderment about how to move forward.

That's a fancy trick to pull off from Louisiana!! You are no USF insider.

Agreed. I don't see that low morale he speaks off, in fact I see new excitement around Taggart and what the football team can accomplish, I see continuos excitement at Heath and the BEST basketball incoming class in USF history. The sports team have the best facilities ever in USF history and programs such as women's basketball, softball, golf, soccer and tennis have proven to be nationally ranked in past few years.

So no I see this new era as a new one in USF athletics but the Bulls have everything and more than what made them attractive to the Big East. I have no doubts that USF athletics will continue to reach new heights.

It sure looks to me that UConn...with it's AAU status and deciding to upgrade it's hockey teams...is looking to position itself for an invite to the Big Ten now that the ACC teams are off the table.

I think UConn would be a pretty good fit for the B10 now that Rutgers and Maryland are in the fold. But the trick, as always, is that you have to wait for the B10 to ask you, not the other way around. That could be part of the UConn plan as well.

(05-12-2013 03:30 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  It sure looks to me that UConn...with it's AAU status and deciding to upgrade it's hockey teams...is looking to position itself for an invite to the Big Ten now that the ACC teams are off the table.

I think UConn would be a pretty good fit for the B10 now that Rutgers and Maryland are in the fold. But the trick, as always, is that you have to wait for the B10 to ask you, not the other way around. That could be part of the UConn plan as well.

The Big 10 could be a good fit, but (IMHO) the ACC is a perfect fit. I'm so burned out on realignment. I'm just going to enjoy the AAC; it's going to be fun.

UConn isn't an AAU school yet. It's working toward that goal.